The INSANE

Welcome to the Game Thread! :D [spoiler=Flavour]Abandoned on an island, 10 friends have figured out how to survive, clinging on to the distant hope of rescue. One fateful night, however, blood-curdling screams are heard - screams that can barely be recognised as human. A sweep of the island the following day finds no other inhabitants, yet the shrieks return every night. The group's worst fears have been confirmed - one of the ten is going uncontrollably INSANE by night, with no memory of it in the morning. The group decides that it is time to root this evil from among them, before they too lose their sanity, or indeed, their lives...[/spoiler] [b]10 players 1 INSANE (mafia) 9 Islanders (townies)[/b] [size=11px]1. Muzthebus 2. Hoodlum 3. Kyla 4. Elysium5 5. Sygmassacre 6. Jimi 7. Anaxagore 8. AlexCheckMate 9. Mayba 10. BigBrain94[/size] [b][size=18px]Game Mechanics:[/size][/b] Most game mechanics follow the normal [size=16px][url=https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/1849/a-noobs-guide-to-dxii-mafia]DXII Mafia Rules[/url],[/size] however there are a couple of changes: [b][size=16px]1. The INSANE:[/size][/b] [u]An INSANE does not know they are insane.[/u] An INSANE cannot carry out any night actions in their Role PM. An INSANE starts off "harmless". A harmless INSANE will drive the target of their night action insane, unless there are already two INSANES alive. A dormant INSANE that has driven a player insane becomes "lethal" for the rest of the game. A lethal INSANE kills the target of their night action. An INSANE wins when all the sane islanders are dead. (Basically, one player starts off as an INSANE. That player will make another player insane during night 1. Then he will kill a player each night after night 1. The second INSANE does nothing until the first INSANE dies. Once the first INSANE dies, the second INSANE can drive another player insane, and then kill on future nights. And so on. A new INSANE will replace a dead one every time, unless the "harmless" INSANE is killed - since the "lethal" INSANE can only kill.) Hopefully this makes sense? [size=12px][/size] [b][size=16px]2. Every player [u]must[/u] vote to Lynch someone during each day phase, or vote "No Lynch".[/size][/b] Anyone who misses the deadline or deliberately abstains will be assigned a random vote by the excellent, glorious, resplendent host (me)[size=11px][/size]. [b][size=16px]3. Similarly, every player [u]must[/u] target someone during each night phase.[/size][/b] If they fail to do so, their target will be random. [b][size=18px]Role PMs:[/size][/b] Every player (including the original INSANE) will randomly receive one of the following abilities: [spoiler=Night actions]1,2,3. Each night, you must choose another player. You will inspect that player's faction. The answer will either be always true, always false, or random. [i]Feedback: "PlayerX is an islander/INSANE."[/i] 4. Each night, you must choose another player. That player's Lynch vote will be worth two votes in the next day phase. [i]No feedback[/i] 5. Each night, you must choose another player. That player's Lynch vote will be worth zero votes in the next day phase. [i]No feedback[/i] 6. Each night, you must choose another player. All night actions performed on that player will do nothing. [i]No feedback[/i] 7. Each night, you must choose another player. If that player is lynched during the next day phase, you will die too. [i]No feedback[/i] 8. Each night, you must choose another player. You will see who that player targeted during the night phase. [i]Feedback: "PlayerX targeted PlayerY during Night n."[/i] 9. Each night, you must choose another player. You will see who targeted that player during the night phase. [i]Feedback: "PlayerX was targeted by PlayerY during Night n."[/i] 10. Each night, you must choose another player. Any action that would target them will target you instead, and vice versa. [i]No feedback[/i] 11. Each night, you must choose another player. This action does nothing. During the day phase, you may send your lynch vote privately to the host. [i]No feedback[/i] [/spoiler] [b]Islander win clause: eliminate all INSANES (harmless and lethal). INSANE win clause: eliminate all islanders (however, INSANES dead for more than two rounds do not share the victory).[/b] That's it! If you have any questions, fire away! Role PMs will be allocated and distributed shortly.

Role PMs are now out! It is now Day 1. It will end in at least 16 hours. A countdown will be posted later. Let me know your sleeping hours via PM and I'll try to accommodate everyone with regards to when phases end. Remember, any one of you could be the INSANE. Think twice before revealing information... You might be helping the islanders to discover you!

That's very cool, so everyone has something to do at night. That's complex but fun.

soooo..we all have night actions..choosing a player. except the insane one (mafia) is actually choosing someone to kill without his knowledge. he will know when that person is dead the next day. 10 players - 11 roles. ok quick observation. i probably won't be the insane one. virt definitely didn't choose me to be insane because a mod always roots for mafia to win. i'd be dead soon cause i'm usually a suspect..not fun for virt..so don't lynch me. [spoiler=i'm probably right]1,2,3. Each night, you must choose another player. You will inspect that player's faction. The answer will either be always true, always false, or random. [i]the bumbling trio - they will never get it together, never have in the past, they will die before then if they are vocal and the insane figures himself out. Tactic - inspect themselves 2 nights in a row and be quiet about it.. ya ya. the insane won't be one of these roles. and the [b]extra non existent role is the random one, i'd claim to be random if i realised i was the insane one. but won't now, because i've said it[/b][/i] 4. Each night, you must choose another player. That player's Lynch vote will be worth two votes in the next day phase. [b]probably not the insane one[/b] 5. [u]Each night, you must choose another player. That player's Lynch vote will be worth zero votes in the next day phase. [b]probably the insane one, boring role which would take a while to realise that the persons vote didn't count, and no result required from virt[/b][/u] 6. Each night, you must choose another player. All night actions performed on that player will do nothing. (this is too fun not to have, so isn't the insane one) 7. Each night, you must choose another player. If that player is lynched during the next day phase, you will die too. (this is too fun not to have, so isn't the insane one) 8. Each night, you must choose another player. You will see who that player targeted during the night phase. (this is not the insane role, because you'd expect a result. an non result would let you know immediately that your insane..virt doesn't want that) 9. Each night, you must choose another player. You will see who targeted that player during the night phase. (this is not the insane role, because you'd expect a result. a non result would let you know immediately that your insane..virt doesn't want that) 10. [u]Each night, you must choose another player. Any action that would target them will target you instead, and vice versa. ([b]possibly the insane one. no result required, and it would take a while before you figured it out. virt wants that for the game[/b]) [/u] 11. Each night, you must choose another player. This action does nothing. During the day phase, you may send your lynch vote privately to the host. (this is too fun not to have, so isn't the insane one)][/spoiler]

So I guess it's not 100% clear yet: [b][size=18px]No-one can target themselves with their night action[/size][/b]. Also, I honour my pledge to true randomness :)

#No Lynch Even the insane doesn't know he is at this point. I may switch if someone is not active.

I prefer No Lynch too, until things get clearer after night actions

[b]lynch Mayba[/b] cause he is an under the radar player. virt would choose that type of player to be insane this game.

Ok...... so here's my take on this. [list] [li]We're with 10 people.[/li] [li]We have 11 roles split between us, each has it's own distinct night action available.[/li] [li]The Insane does NOT know whether s/he's insane.[/li] [li]The nightaction of the Insane does NOT get carried out.[/li] [li]We start with 1 Insane.[/li] [li]...[/li] [/list] So.... in a worst/best case scenario (depending on your take on it ;)), we might end this game at this lynch already by lynching the one and only INSANE! 10% shot right here =D Anyone feeling particularly loopy? :roll: (In a sense.... that makes for a very sketchy start of the game? :p) Also later on, with some 'luck' on nightactions of the INSANE & HIS/HER target, the game can end instantly. Game sure is.... pardon my pun....... [i]INSANE[/i] I can think of a way how to end the game rather quickly with the highest chance of winning for all of the SANE people... (having a predetermined sequence of people targetting who) I guess however, that as soon as the INSANE person discovers s/he's insane... s/he'll no longer stick to the plan/program :D Therefore, I guess there's no real shortcut in the game... we'll just need to share information about WHAT our night abilities are and WHO we target with those abilities... eventually we should be noticing that people are telling lies and from that further organise ourselves... but yeah... this sounds like it'll come down to a lot of random events :D Anyone else (Anax?); got any wild ideas for a method that'll guide us on a cruise to VICTORY ISLAND? Good luck everyone! -Alex PS - I propose we try and play without communication outside of the forum :P There's no real teams in this game, nor any logic into trying to form one. We're all against 1 of our own (later 2) - without knowing who this is^^ The INSANE will probably discover tonight/night after who s/he is and as such be rather sure of his/her partner.... then they'll probably communicate behind the scenes... which makes sense. Everyone else has, as long as they didnt get INSANE/contacted about it, no clue about whether they're still SANE or got CONVERTED.. so infostreams are always prone to being heisted :D

[quote=Virtuosity98]So I guess it's not 100% clear yet: [b][size=18px]No-one can target themselves with their night action[/size][/b]. Also, I honour my pledge to true randomness :)[/quote] Hahahaha, did more people have a nice conversation with you? :D Please note - you may all speculate as much as you want about my role, but the nature of the nighttime ability of my role has no causal relation with me inquiring with V98 - I just inquire for fun. [spoiler=Me And V98 Having a Chat - my role is blurred out ;)] Message: The INSANE, Role PM - V98/AlexCheckMate From: Virtuosity98 To: AlexCheckMate Virtuosity98 said: 15 Apr 2019, 10:XX AlexCheckMate Each night, you must choose another player. [u][SECRET // FOR MY EYES ONLY].[/u] Remember, the INSANE doesn't know they are the INSANE - it could be you! With astute observation, you can work out if you are the source of all the madness. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, your benevolent, erudite, altruistic host ^^ AlexCheckMate said: 15 Apr 2019, 11:30 Q = Question, R = Remark Q1: How do you come up with all those very fitting adjectives? ;) R1: Since it's not specified anywhere specifically, I'll simply assume I can target myself (i AM another player). tyvm =) Virtuosity98 said: 15 Apr 2019, 11:45 Nope, all night actions have to target another = a different player. None of the night actions are self-targeting, since the INSANE has to target players other than themself, and any player could be the INSANE. AlexCheckMate said: 15 Apr 2019, 11:47 IM VERY INSANE SCHIZOPHRENIA ALLOWS ME TO TALK TO MYSELF IN THE THIRD PERSON AND HAVE VERY VIVID CONVERSATIONS WITH MY ARMPIT, I'LL TARGET MY ARMPIT, THAT OK? Virtuosity98 said: 15 Apr 2019, 11:49 uhm, please calm down ^^ AlexCheckMate said: 15 Apr 2019, 11:50 was worth a shot [/spoiler]

[b]unlynch mayba[/b]. [b]Lynch AlexCheckMate[/b]

[quote=Hoodlum][b]unlynch mayba[/b]. [b]Lynch AlexCheckMate[/b][/quote] :roll:

I read quicly but if i'm right i think we could all technically become Insanes and win. We would just have to figure out who the 1st and 2nd insanes are, and keep on lynching the lethal one, while the other infects a new towbie every turn. Anyway this is too boring to be done. I'll think about strategies after night 1, i don't want to screw up if i'm the insane :)

[quote=Anaxagore]I read quicly but if i'm right i think we could all technically become Insanes and win. We would just have to figure out who the 1st and 2nd insanes are, and keep on lynching the lethal one, while the other infects a new towbie every turn. Anyway this is too boring to be done. I'll think about strategies after night 1, i don't want to screw up if i'm the insane :) [/quote] I know it's not 100% clear. I tried to write as succinctly as possible, but never mind... There can only ever be two live INSANES at once. One will have "recruited" the other and become lethal. The newer one will be harmless until the older one dies. If/When the older, lethal INSANE dies, the harmless INSANE will "recruit" another INSANE, and become the new lethal INSANE. Technically, everyone could become insane, but I just realised that I never wrote the islander or INSANE win clauses :S [b]Islander win clause: eliminate all INSANES (harmless and lethal). INSANE win clause: eliminate all islanders (however, INSANES dead for more than two rounds do not share the victory).[/b]

Also: Day 1 will end in 14 hours [url=https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20190416T041000&p0=%3A&msg=End+of+Day+1&font=cursive&csz=1#](countdown)[/url], unless players who haven't been active to see the game start require more time.