Prisoners

What about you?

are you on the side of The Prisoners?

Yes I am on the side of the prisoners but as I said, the mafia have tried to bribe me by saying they will spare my life if I comply. The issue is I think that by being honest with all other prisoners I might have more chance to survive but I just don’t know who is a prisoner and who Is not. Virtuosity was asking lots of questions to me and not sure why tbh

[quote=Abs23]Yes I am on the side of the prisoners but as I said, [b]the mafia have tried to bribe me by saying they will spare my life if I comply.[/b] The issue is I think that by being honest with all other prisoners I might have more chance to survive but I just don’t know who is a prisoner and who Is not. Virtuosity was asking lots of questions to me and not sure why tbh [/quote] Who said that? If you are with the Prisoners, you win alive or dead, so helping the mafia is just a mistake. Also, we can probably protect you if you role is worth it.

Haha well that’s not what I have been told, they have said if I help them, I will be spared. The plot thickens though as the reason I am on the fence is I have a win clause that is released if I kill the mafia which was given to me by a prison guard so I literally am in the middle

who is promising to spare you?

[quote=Anaxagore][quote=Abs23]Ok so I need to be honest, I wanted to try and work out who I could trust so said a few red herrings to see how people reacted in gardening. I am just trying to act tough to survive but I will tell you the mafia have tried to bribe me to give them info and spare My life as a prisoner if I comply. In all honesty I don’t know what is best? I want us all to survive but I also don’t want to die…help![/quote] #Lynch Abs23 Let's start there. Abs knows stuff so my vote will be on him until he speaks.[/quote] Why lynch me haha, I am just being honest as hoping people can help me with the situation I am in, I vote to #Lynch Virtuosity98 as he is the one that is involved in many of these stories

Unfortunately for you Abs23, I have just got too much incriminating evidence for you to get away with this. You have chosen open warfare with me. I can literally post all my chats with you and with Mada, and there will only be one conclusion - that you are a neutral (almost certainly) or a mafia. [b]#LYNCH Abs23[/b]

abs - since you are new to this, it sounds like you are one of the neutral players w a different win clause. at this point it would be wise to let abs live since he seems to be a threat only near the end. unless he is talked/tricked into voting w the mafia . i do not know of any other non-mafia except me at this point. abs - it seems that you may need the larger group of prisoners to save you from being lynched and not the small group of mafia. i suggest you copy and paste any chat you had that makes you think mafia was offering you a bribe (that is allowed but can also be forged). that will make that person (or persons) come out to defend themselves and maybe draw some of the attention away from you

Can we have someone provide the messaging stats for the janitor and laundry rooms? They're worth knowing imo. [quote]Madagascarter said: 06 Aug 2021, 21:34 Private message count. Not including KoE_Doja V98 Abs23. 23 V98 SHJENKE. 3 V98 Vicious. 2 Only messages that occurred [/quote]

laundry Elysium5 TLM. 4 Elysium5 Kyla. 1 Elysium5 2ofclubs 0 Elysium5 Mdhaglund. 0 Kyla TLM. 3 Kyla 2ofclubs 3 Kyla Mdhaglund. 1 TLM 2ofclubs 4 TLM Mdhaglund. 2 2ofclubs Mdhaglund. 0

Janitors: Anaxagore everyone (somehow snooping around the whole prison illegally 1 Anaxagore Rockbert - 2

Obviously the person who potentially tried to bribe Abs is V98 Looking for that chat to judge

23 messages seems to be the chat to see. who will post them 1st?

[spoiler=D0 gardening, full chat][quote]Madagascarter said: 05 Aug 2021, 18:57 Chat here. You can have private chats between you but add me in please. No forum messaging yet Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 19:00 Do I get first pick of gardening gloves and tools? :roll: On a more serious note, hey guys, I hope we can unravel a little bit of the mystery before the voting phase. @Abs23, @SHJENKE, we've never played mafia games together before. Hopefully this will be a fun one. Looks an interesting format. Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 19:03 @Vicious and @KoE_Doja should know by now that my preferred playstyle is high in communication. The pieces of the puzzle out on the table, the clearer the image will become :) So I'm starting a PM conversation with each of you, just to get the ball rolling :) Abs23 said: 05 Aug 2021, 19:46 Happy to have high comms, it’s a bit of a new format for me but I’m a quick learner KoE_Doja said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:06 any communication is good KoE_Doja said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:08 how do we see the game table? SHJENKE said: 06 Aug 2021, 00:55 Except that i am a prisoner I don’t know any thing else Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 11:19 Less than 8hrs until voting phase. I'd like to see more discussion here if it's alright with everyone :) Someone as their night action during N0 decided who to put in each room (gardening, janitor, laundry). Clearly, that person is not one of the innocent good guys, so the room chooser is either mafia (most likely) or neutral. So I'm looking at the list of players and wondering, why would a mafia/neutral put those certain players together? Who would the mafia NOT want to be in a room with? Would the mafia choose to be all in one room, or would they prefer to be spread out, 1 in each room? Of course, if the room organiser is neutral, these questions become a little redundant. But they're definitely worth considering, since we have basically nothing else to think about so far. Unless anyone wants to go full trust and share something about their role? KoE_Doja said: 06 Aug 2021, 12:17 i have no idea how to play this Have no map , room , or board Vicious said: 06 Aug 2021, 17:04 Not exactly sure wat I should share ... I always share to much..wasn't gona make that mistake again but if it gets things going I will I am a guard of the prisoners. A good guard. an I have a night action. Not a kill action. But a night action. So is anyone else gona reveal? [b]Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 17:09 I have a day action, not a kill action but I can acquire new actions quite easily... I am a gambler and I like to take risks but I find it hard to trust people.[/b] Madagascarter said: 06 Aug 2021, 21:34 Private message count. Not including KoE_Doja V98 Abs23. 23 V98 SHJENKE. 3 V98 Vicious. 2 Only messages that occurred[/quote][/spoiler] You can see from this chat that I am encouraging communication and trying to solve the puzzle. Abs23 claims in bold some things related to his ability. [spoiler=Part of my chat with Mada][quote]Madagascarter said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:28 You have been challenged by a shady person to a game of Rock Paper Scissors. If you win, you gain new abilities and extra votes, but if you lose you will lose (for 1 turn) your vote. You may not refuse. What is your choice? Rock Paper or Scissors? Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:30 Very good. Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:57 Scissors :ninja: Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:59 Paper! Madagascarter said: 06 Aug 2021, 19:04 The shady person chose Scissors causing you to lose your vote for a single day phase. Better luck next time[/quote][/spoiler] I received a rock-paper-scissors challenge, which I figured kind of matched Abs' description of himself (bold in previous spoiler). I let him know I was onto him in our private chat (next spoiler): [spoiler=Chat V98/Abs23][quote]Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 19:13 Hey Abs23, it's nice to have you playing with us :) May I ask how familiar you are with mafia games? I'm trying to work out how we can start piecing things together from the very little information that has been given to us so far. Any ideas? Abs23 said: 05 Aug 2021, 19:50 I’m not familiar with perhaps this format but I have played mafia and set Tasks in working day before dtcsnd understand another group work in the night and one Person is killed in each right? Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:02 Ok ok, well you should know Mada is renowned for unpredictable setups with his games, so who knows what abilities are lurking out there :( Usually the mafia group gets 1 kill per night phase. What did you mean to say when you wrote "dtcsnd"? Abs23 said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:11 Was only saying and is all. Just a typo So our room is the garden right? When does the day start? Tomorrow? Madagascarter said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:33 This is the Working Day phase. It’ll last 24 hours. There are some characters which will have abilities during this phase. Next will be the Voting Day Phase where the forum will be opened but PM’s will be closed. In that phase you will vote for a player and have a chance to present your evidence to the whole group Abs23 said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:49 All clear Abs23 said: 05 Aug 2021, 21:00 Let’s start by asking what you do for a living? What you interested in? Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 22:32 Are you talking about real life or just in the game? ^^^^ My role does mention what I'm interested in, but it has nothing to do with my ability. Which I thought was odd, but never mind. Interesting that some people have abilities during the Working Day phase. I wonder what they could be. Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 22:36 also, no replies from SHJENKE, Doja, or Vicious yet in my private PMs with them. I'll try in the morning (UK here) :) Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 11:36 So as we are in the garden, I assume you are good with your hands. I have had a tough time of late and i Do t trust many people as had to keep my wits about me. Il try and help You out with any info you want to know though so shoot and ask Me? So what are you interested in and whats Your ability? Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:34 I haven't told anyone anything about me. I'm thinking about telling you, and only you. That way, I can tell if the info gets out, you betrayed me ;) So if you want me to tell you my action, I'll do it if you tell me yours. I'll keep the secret until you let me share it. Deal? Only 25mins to the deadline, so reply quick if you'd like to trade info privately :) Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:45 Hi, I missed the deadline but let’s talk tomorrow Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:46 Deadline isn't missed yet Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:46 15mins left. And tomorrow we might not be in the same room. Anyway, your choice :) Madagascarter said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:49 There is 10 mins Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:51 [b]So, I am able to win more powers by doing certain actions but I am a nobody really, I’m out of luck, a neutral and just wrong place at wrong time but I can be very useful with my one action which allows me to get strong very quickly[/b] Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:52 Ok. So did you choose rock? ;) Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:53 I did not actually but one of the others, what did you choose? Rock I assume! Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:55 I am scared to choose, you could be bluffing ;) Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:55 Given your hostile ability, I'm sure you'll forgive me for no longer wanting to divulge mine. Sorry :/ Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:56 You have my word, I have already made my choice….I’m waiting to see what you chose Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:58 We'll see Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:58 Ok well, may as well tell you it was rock I chose now, was I right? Humour me haha[/quote][/spoiler] After asking him if he chose rock, he knew I knew he was the "shady challenger". I figured that since the consequence of losing the challenge wasn't too bad for me, I'd choose to believe that he was going for rock, as he gave me his word. If it turned out he was lying, I would know 100% that he was an enemy. So I went paper, and lost because he lied and went scissors. I lost my ability to vote in this phase, but I gained the sure knowledge that Abs is lying to exploit me, and is a clear enemy. [b]Conclusion:[/b] Abs lied to me, admitting he is neutral and hinting that he gains lots of abilities by winning these rock paper scissors duels. So unfortunately for him, it's clear we should get rid of him. I believe a reading of the evidence is incriminating. That's why I voted [b]#LYNCH Abs23[/b]