The Realm of Spades mafia game thread

Sigh...fine. I know Cheeky blew it and revealed she was mafia when she turned on me. Why? I am the 4 of spades. I didn't want to tell anyone. Here is our entire PM, no edits, nothing left out: [spoiler][b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 00:51[/size] Hi Ely so it looks like you're in pretty deep water. I don't see how you've incriminated yourself and I believe your naive questions are innocent however it will be a tall order to get the rest of the village to back you especially because now the mafia won't touch you as the spotlight is on you rather than them. If you really are a true vanillager then perhaps you wouldn't mind being lynched first? Do you suspect others yet? For me its still to early to tell but if the village votes its looking like you're first to go. Any thoughts would be appreciated. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 02:10[/size] Yeah, I just posted as much in the open forum. Maybe it makes sense to lynch me first in order to help out the village. I also don't think you are mafia but you are the only one I have received a message from so far. Also, because you sent me a message, I thought that it would be better for me not 'proclaiming' you were ok in the open forum, I thought it better if I didn't make it look like you and I are colluding and then make you a target as well. Suspicions? I think skarni seems a little suspect. Maybe, just maybe, Ultra is as well only because he seemed a little aggressive in his answers but truthfully, I think that is more likely because he is a villager and not mafia. It's dough-boys second game, too, so I think he is not yet a criminal mastermind either and am leaning heavily on thinking he is not mafia. In short, I trust you because I don't think that if you were mafia, you'd be sending me this message. It looks like I've drawn enough attention to myself all on my own and am quite likely to be lynched. mafia wouldn't bother wasting a kill on me at this point. I also have a good feeling about dough-boy and a bad feeling about skarni. I am on the fence about Ultra but leaning heavily on the side of him also being village. Power roles? No friffin' idea whatsoever;) [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 02:34[/size] Ok I trust that based on the logic in your message that you are not mafia either but forgive me if I have some reservations. I have received 1 other PM from Ultra asking what I thought about you, it was short and the kind of message I think might have been sent to everyone but you (speculation only at this point). It will be helpful to go forward with your thoughts if you do get lynched, and if I'm right and you're clean then I can immediately suspect those who painted you guilty. An interesting point in your post in the forum was when you said you were talking more than before...this caught my attention because in my response to ultra I said I thought you were innocent but talking more than last game. If you two are working together I say congrats because you are a much stronger mafia player than I thought...I'm not sure how you would have thought to mention that without a PM from Ultra also? [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 03:04[/size] Like I said, I have not sent a PM to anyone and you are the only one I have received one from. You should have reservations, about everyone, especially after the last game. I don't really have a way to convince you whether to trust me but I'm not sure if that is really important at this stage. I do trust you, though, because it makes zero sense if you were mafia to message me. I already seem to have a target painted on me. If I get lynched, my advice would be to trust no one. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 07:16[/size] When you posted this above: [spoiler]An interesting point in your post in the forum was when you said you were talking more than before...this caught my attention because in my response to ultra I said I thought you were innocent but talking more than last game. If you two are working together I say congrats because you are a much stronger mafia player than I thought...I'm not sure how you would have thought to mention that without a PM from Ultra also?[/spoiler] I didn't catch the part until I just reread where you thought I might be working with Ultra because of my making reference to talking more. I only mentioned it because I seem to have gotten a lot of attention for it whereas, in the last game, Hood convinced me fairly early with his logic that he was who he said he was and because I was the doctor, he convinced me to keep a really low profile and I used my saves back and forth on both him and myself to convince him I was in fact, the doctor. I can see where you may have greater suspicions from that comment about me maybe talking too much so I do have some advice for you because my time may be short: You asked to be inspected first so if you are and you believe the inspector, ask the inspector to inspect Ultra next instead of dough-boy. I believe dough-boy is less likely to be mafia than Ultra so he is less a danger to you. This way you can either sniff Ultra out as mafia right away if he is or you can get him on your side right away, which would seem like the smart move and would greatly increase the advantage of the village. A little bit of attention seems to have come off of me with skarni's strange comments but in any case, it seems to me like the best chance for the survival of the village is to build a core and you, dough-boy and Ultra seem like a solid one, if you can clear each other. The sooner, the better. Remember, I trust you because of the reason I gave above. It makes no sense for a member of the mafia to send me a message. I already put a big enough target on myself. That does not mean I want you to trust me. If I stay alive long enough, maybe you will come to trust me. I only ask that for the sake of the village, trust my logic that you need a strong core to trust in and grow. If you are inspected, you have a start with you and the inspector. bring in or weed Ultra first and dough-boy second because they can make or break the core if they are village or not. To me, this seems to be the best use of the inspector to help ensure the village wins. One more thing, I now think that it is best for the village that any power roles remain hidden. Do not come out in public. It does not make sense. Build your core and come out in that. That is the only logical way for you to keep them hidden from the mafia. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 07:32[/size] I agree with your proposed strategy of targeting ultra next as he is either our most experienced ally or worst enemy. Unfortunately I suspect the first investigate has been used and it wasn't on me. I was hoping that I could join the group of cleared but for now I am guessing in the dark. I have been pushing for the inspector and obviously the other power roles to remain hidden and I am suspicious of those who thought the best strategy would have been to come out. I am especially suspicious of mada, kyla and skarni at this point based on the forum, I also don't quite trust doughboy just yet. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 07:44[/size] Fair enough and you should remain suspicious of everybody at this point. Now keep in mind this, because we are both new; I could be wrong about whether or not a power role should be kept hidden or not. That is the info I was trying to dig for in the public forum from the more experienced players. That is what seemed to paint a target on my back. I would be more suspicious of players who are too quick to point a finger at lynching someone as opposed to one who might suggest a player reveal their role. Players pointing fingers are more likely trying to draw attention away from themselves. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 11:15[/size] I have been sending PMs to players with differing responses if any at all lol. I think I have stumbled on a hiccup from one of the replies but before I share the info with you, I would like to see your role PM and compare it to mine. I will not be offended if you refuse as it is still early days. I would send you the info first but I was almost hoodwinked sending mine first to someone who claimed to know the inspector. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 02:22[/size] I trust Ultra after all my conversations with others. I have been pretty bold so if the mafia kill me or him then try to discredit the other I want you to know he can be trusted. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 02:43[/size] Ely scrap that I think I trusted the wrong person again. I've confronted him to see the response. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 02:45[/size] Just got home and checked this quick. I have a few things I have to do around the house and I need to take the dogs out but I will be back on again in a little while. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 09:06[/size] The one thing I am sure of is the inspector needs to inspect you and clear you as soon as possible. It is starting to look like a weird fight between Ulta, dough-boy and Mada. At the very least, one of them has to be mafia with all the finger pointing. One of them is sure to die tonight, either by the claim of a vigilante shot or by a mafia vote. Follow my logic again because there is a lot of focus on this group which makes me believe quite possibly 2 members of this group is mafia and one is a power role. All three of them are pointing fingers at each other as opposed to two on one so it makes me think 2 are mafia trying to play a game because one knows they are going to die. I still think that at least one of Ultra or Dough-boy is important to the village. Also, Mada is either power role or mafia. If whoever is left alive is not mafia, they will likely be a target. If they are, mafia's target will be someone else. That makes a certain kind of sense. Instead of trying to decide to trust whoever is left alive, I want to bring up a side point; Skarni also points the finger at Mada and it appears they both claim to have had me reveal to them my card number. The only PM I have responded to is you and I have not revealed my role to anyone, including you, so one or both of them is definitely lying. Either working together or trying to trick the other. Of those four at least 2 and maybe even three must be mafia. One of that group will likely die today by lynching and another will likely die the same night by mafia so one of whoever is still standing needs to be inspected after you in order to be cleared or condemned as soon as possible. If someone outside that group is killed by mafia, it stands to reason that a good possibility is that at least 2 mafias, maybe even all three mafias are part of that group, hoping to use one's death/sacrifice to vindicate themselves. Whoever is left alive of that group if no mafia kills them should be suspect. I was asked by both dough boy and Ultra to reveal my card to them but at this time I have not responded to either. I don't know if this casts any new suspicions you have on either of them but they are the only ones who, after you, have tried to contact me and I have not reached out to anyone or given out any information. If you come to trust either one of them(by inspection or other means), they can confirm I have made no contact or responded to them via PM and you can use this info to help verify the information you are getting. If you trust them (one or both) you can tell them what I told you and they will understand why I did not respond to them, so you can use the info to determine who is lying about what I said or didn't say. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 10:05[/size] Thank you ely for a thoughtful and well reasoned response. I agree with your logic and believe at least 2 of the 4 are mafia. As ultra included you in the group PM, you can see that his behavior is a little strange. First he tries to discredit me in the forum using PM transcripts where I either said something that could be considered insulting or scheming, then he changes tact rather dramatically and starts telling everyone that I am village and to follow me, which I think a mafia would do to bring a villager down with him. This is not the first instance of blatant contridiction oozing from his statements. Earlier in the forum posts he yells/capitalises that people should stop claiming to be vanilla as it gives the mafia too much information (which makes no sense), then later on he starts suspecting those with no vanilla claims and calling for the silent to give him numbers even if they're made up or face having suspicion cast on them. Because he behaves strangely and not quite as I expected him to for someone soon to die, and because it occurred to me that syg could have overlooked the typo if he copy pasted an old role PM; I think it wise to lynch mada first to see if ultra and skarnis statements ring true. Particularly because mada did not respond to me or post in the forum until he was in the spotlight again. If they are mafia then they have played all their cards too early and they will not last. No arguing will save them. Doughboy put his foot in it with his earlier games of giving out false information to trap people, not 100% but fairly certain he is mafia and not a power role. I instantly suspected him when his first forum post contained the guilty sounding "inspector don't waste an inspect on me" statement. I'm sure if an experienced player i.e. mada or ultra is mafia then surely they would not all be clowning around in public? Anyway I really hope mada turns out guilty or the village will implode. We shall have more info soon enough and I appreciate the detective tools you've provided me. I am glad you didn't tell me your role and I hope the inspector will clear me next. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 10:14[/size] What you are saying makes sense as well. If Mada turns out to be mafia the village may not be totally insane. If the mafia takes out someone outside of that group, it would cast huge suspicion on whoever is left from that group pointing fingers at each other. One of them likely being mafia or 2 of them trying to get the village to lynch the third so they can use their kill on someone else. Let the village do the work for them, you know? I really hope you get inspected. We need a core that is sure of who is village or not. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 10:24[/size] Looks like mada just claimed he's the doctor...that is a role the village cannot afford to lynch. Is it a clever mafia move or has the pressure of being ousted brought the true doctor forward? If so he will have to waste his protection on himself. And possibly if the inspector is new he will be tempted to inspect the bold claim first. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 10:34[/size] Damn...I almost just posted to lynch Mada...can't the doctor only save at night? He could use it to protect himself from the vigilante or the mafia but not from being lynched. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 10:36[/size] I believe that is correct but what I'm saying is that if we change the vote then during the next night phase he will have to use it on himself instead of on the inspector. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 10:38[/size] Also if what he is saying is true then that explains ultra and skarnis odd behavior ...he will have to be inspected. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 14:35[/size] It turns out skarni thought you gave your card number to ultra. He shared the PM with me and I pointed out that there was no claim in the PM. He explained that he saw the 5 at the end of your name and thought it was your card number. I assume that he was the one who told mada but based on their initial confrontation in the forum I don't see how that was included in their PM and it did not look likely that mada would pursue further communication after skarni tried to make him look bad. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 16:46[/size] That seems to be a reasonable explanation for the number 5. but did he claim to have received a message from me was that someone else claiming it and it getting reposted?. I have to this point still only been in contact with you and have continued to ignore those who have contacted me (Dough-boy, Ultra and the group chat). [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 17:20[/size] Ok, I just re-read the whole thing and I see it looks like the 5 was a mix-up and Mada claimed to have heard from me? This has gotten huge! It really looks like Mada is getting lynched so I don't need to cast my vote. (I have to leave the house soon anyway and won't be back online until later tonight so I don't want to cast my vote and then be unable to change it if need be). I can't decide what is going on with Ultra and/or Skarni yet. Putting out A LOT of information. I have a funny feeling about Dough-boy, but not a bad one. He has sent me a message twice and it is killing me not to respond. I have a feeling that he is not mafia and somehow got thrown in the mix and is going to die by sheriff/vigilante for maybe not a very good reason. I want to respond to his message to feel him out but I don't want to give him any clues if he is the mafia or he might pass them on before he dies. I don't have anything concrete for this, just a gut feeling that he is not mafia and mafia tricked us into wasting a night kill on dough. If that is the case, we have to look at how dough got thrown under the bus and who wanted him dead. That could help in weeding out the rest of the mafia. If dough is mafia, my gut is wrong so it doesn't matter but I really think he is going to be a casualty of subterfuge. Here is the message from Dough: [b][user]dough_boy[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]07 Aug 2017, 14:01[/size] since you say you are a villager, what is your number? Here is mine. Sygmassacre said: 05 Aug 2017, 12:24 The 3 of Spades. dough_boy, You are a villager in the Spade Realm. You will endeavour to keep the Mafia from taking control by lynching them during the day phase. Be wary of lynching villagers though. You win when all mafia are eliminated. [hr] [b][user]dough_boy[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 12:56[/size] hey...just following up on this. I have reason to suspect that you might be who I was last game. I hear if that is the case cheeky is the next target. I would rather targe Ultra or Mad as Cheeky has claimed to just be #4...no reason to lie about that as that is easily refutable and no one else has claimed that number. [hr] [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]08 Aug 2017, 17:23[/size] There is not much in this message to tell me anything one way or another but what he says in the public forum makes sense. If he gets shot and he turns out to be mafia, he was clearly just trying to trick me into revealing myself. If he gets shot and is not mafia, we need to pick through the info and see who wanted him dead and who he thought was mafia. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 01:18[/size] Thanks Ely I have lessened my suspicions on dough although he won't talk to me since I threw him under the bus in the forum. Ultra keeps saying that he will shoot dough tonight unless things change. He also started a new group chat that I am not part of so I've become a pretty useless source of information for clues in PMs. I think my paranoid mistrust of people and trying to solve this thing on my own, confrontational style, have been my undoing this game and probably will impact future games. That being said I think it would be a good time for you to explore potential dialogues with others for yourself. Just ensure to keep your role safe until others are confirmed as I also believe you're someone important. I am not sure if ultra meant what he said about shooting dough or if he is trying to bait me however like I said before dough put his foot in it by handing out fake role PMs at the beginning. That seems to be the basis of skarni and ultras distrust of dough which is valid logic. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 02:56[/size] One of Ultra or Skarni has to be suspect. I could be wrong but they both continue to be super sketchy, implying that with Mada gone, it validates everything they have said without any other corroboration. That is a good mafia tactic. I think I'll make contact with Dough, even though he likely won't last the night. maybe I can get some info out of him without really giving him much myself. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 03:02[/size] I keep thinking that too. I want to believe I was right in my confrontations with both of them but I'm afraid of being biased so I've dropped my suspicions until more information is available. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 03:49[/size] Here are some strange anomalies. Using the knowledge that you had not spoken to anyone else, we know that mada and skarni both falsely claimed to have received their role PMs from you. When confronted skarni points the finger to ultra and mada points at skarni. We have seen a conversation that looks like it wouldn't continue between skarni and mada on the forum, it does make the public believe that the two of them cannot be related or in the same faction. I think it was a very bold move by skarni to make so early unless it was a set up. I then confronted skarni regarding lying about making contact with you. He said ultra told him, but I'll dig through my messages because I could have sworn he said it was mada at some point. He insists he misunderstood ultra's list of villagers when I'm sure someone mentioned receiving a PM from you. Today I received a message from ultra saying that he wondered why mada would be the only one to have PM contact with you. Confirming at the very least that skarni and ultra PM each other and are concerned about you, ultra was obviously fishing for information. When I tell him mada lied and so did skarni about their contact with you, he asked how I could be certain. I explained that your lack of communication has been a pretty successful lure. He wasnt concerned about skarni when I said he lied, he just skipped forward to focusing back on dough. He starts a new group thread with others(speculation but based on his actions so far) and skarni has stopped his communication with me in PM. Skarni still communicated with me in PM after the confrontation, mostly about how he doesn't trust ultra or dough. So I found the timing strange. Have you noticed that all 3 also claimed to have heard from the doctor? I don't believe someone would come forward to any of them until after the lynch. All 3 claimed before. Anyway I'll do some digging to see if I can find blatant proof. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 04:39[/size] Ok. I will contact Dough and see what is up. he may be a third wheel as well but he might have some info in regards to Ultra or skarni that would help decide what to do next. I know Dough is the target of the Vig (Ultra) so I think that if Dough turns out to be village, Ultra should be the first question mark followed by Skarni. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 04:48[/size] I think Ultra is the most suspect. If it turns out that Ultra is good, Skarni is the bad one. I don't know how to flesh this out in one turn. It might take two if we can't find a way to lynch one and then if it turns out to be bad, lynch the other. In the meantime, the mafia will continue to pick off the needed players. We need the inspector to inspect you (and for you to believe him) so we can eliminate the fakes. This really does hinge on you, sorry. Once again, I have a gut feeling that Dough is on our side and the loss is going to hurt us. Who was against him? [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 05:56[/size] To speed up the truth it might be better to shoot me and inspect ultra. I'm pretty useless to the village now. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 16:07[/size] Ely I need the Doctor and I believe you're him. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 16:28[/size] Hey, I just read what I wrote and it makes no sense...I think I had too much whiskey last night when I was trying to figure things out. "I know Dough is the target of the Vig (Ultra) so I think that if Dough turns out to be village, Ultra should be the first question mark followed by Skarni." The vigilante(sheriff) is village so Ultra would be cleared. I still think he is killing the wrong person. Inspecting Ultra would be a waste. If he kills Dough, we know he is who he says he is. Shooting you would be a big mistake. If I'm right about Dough, that is going to be a big mistake as well. I can't wrap my head around how Ultra is thinking. If he is the sheriff, why is he being so wishy washy? Has someone got into his head and is using him? You said you need the Doctor. Do you think the mafia is going to try and kill you? [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 16:31[/size] Not for me. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 16:35[/size] Ok good logic. I've said to ultra not to shoot dough but funnily enough he's not responding. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 16:51[/size] Ok, here's the paradox. I trust you are not mafia. I want you to trust me but for the good of the village, you should trust no one until you are inspected. Then you have someone to trust. If someone has revealed a power role to you, and you trust them, don't tell anyone who they are, including me. Unfortunately (even though some are starting to think it) I am NOT the doctor. I can't save anybody. If I were mafia, I would jump on this opportunity to lie to you and tell you I am the doctor so I could find out from you who I would need to kill. I am not publicly denying the idea that I might be the doctor because if the mafia thinks I am the doctor, they will target me which in turn keeps the doctor safe. It at least allows for the doctor to save someone else besides themselves because the real doctor remains hidden to them. I do not have a power role so for the good of the village, I make a better sacrifice if it saves the doctor. So as much as I want to know who is on our side, you should not give me any info that could cast doubt and endanger the village. I want to gain your trust but I want you to be absolutely sure who you can trust. We are at a critical point in the game and with the mafia one down, they are going to try and trick whomever they can to get info in order to uncover the doc and the inspector as they will already know who the sheriff is by morning if it turns out that Ultra really is the sheriff and kills dough. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 17:29[/size] delight part deux I said M-A-S, T-E-R, a G and I'm the Mafi I said I am a Master at this game Of the man they call the Master Gee Well, my name is known all over the world By all the foxy ladies and the pretty girls I'm goin' down in history As the baddest killer there ever could be Now I'm feelin' the highs and you're feelin' the lows The beat starts gettin' into your toes You start poppin' your fingers and stompin' your feet And movin' your body while while you're sitting in your seat And then damn! Ya start doin' the freak, I said Damn! Right outta your seat Then you throw your hands high in the air Ya rockin' to the rhythm, shake your derriere Ya rockin' to the beat without a care With the sureshot Vigi for the affair Now, I'm not as tall as the rest of the gang But I rap to the beat just the same I got a little face, and a pair of black spades All I'm here to do, ladies, is hypnotize Singin' dough-boy is gone on'n'on The beat don't stop until the break of dawn Singin' use your shot wrong on'n'on Like a hot buttered pop da pop da pop dibbie dibbie Pop da pop pop, don't you dare stop Come alive y'all, gimme whatcha got I guess by now you can take a hunch And find that I am the trikster of the bunch But that's okay, I still keep in stride 'Cause all I'm here to do is just wiggle your behind Singin' I'll stear you wrong on'n'on The beat don't stop until the break of dawn Singin' another village gone on'n'on Rock rock, y'all, throw it on the floor I'm gonna freak you here, I'm gona freak you there I'm gonna move you outta this atmosphere 'Cause I'm one of a kind and I'll shock your mind I'll put TNT in your behind. I said One, two, three, four village gone, girls, get on the floor A-come alive, y'all, a-gimme whatcha got 'Cause I'm guaranteed to make you rock I said one, two, three, four, tell me, Ultra Mike What are you waiting for? I said a flip flop The flippie to the flippie The flip flip a flop, and you don't stop, a rock it To the bang bang boogie, say up kill the dough-boy To the rhythm of the boogie, the beat A skiddleebebop, we rock, scooby doo And guess what, Ultra, we tricked you 'Cause you rocked and a rolled with so much soul You could rock 'til a hundred and one years old I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast But we like hot butter on our Mafi breakfast toast Rock it up, Baby Bubba! Baby Bubba to the boogie da bang bang da boogie To the beat, beat, it's unique Come on everybody and dance to the beat! Have you ever went over a friends house to play And the cards just ain't no good? I mean the inspector's playin' sloppy, the doc has been shushed And the Sheriff just blew his wood So you try to play it off like you think you can By saying that you're confused And then your friend says, "mama, he's just being polite He ain't finished, uh-uh, he got used!" So your heart starts pumpin' and you think of a lie And you say that you already shot And your friend says "man, there's plenty of kills" So you give some more info you got While the tricky game's steamin', your mind starts to dreamin' Of the moment that it's time to leave And then you look at your PM's and your logic's slowly rottin' Into something that looks like cheese Oh so you say "that's it, I gotta leave this place I don't care what these people think I'm just sittin' here makin' myself nauseous With this ugly card and that stinks" So you bust out the door while it's still closed Still sick from the advice I gave And then you run to the store for quick relief From a bottle of Kaopectate And then you call your friend two weeks later To see how he has been And he says, "I understand about bad advice Baby Bubba, but we're still friends" With a flip flop the flippie to the flippie The flip flip a flop, a you don't stop the rockin' To the bang bang boogie Say up jump the boogie to the rhythm of the Mafi the beat [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 17:31[/size] Ha, meant to post that in the Public Thread;) [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]09 Aug 2017, 18:22[/size] I think we are going to have a problem come morning. I am pretty sure, based on statements made, that I know who the inspector is. He is dropping hints that are way too obvious and the mafia is going to figure it out. I don't like it. We can't really afford to lose the inspector with the village in such turmoil. If the inspector dies tonight, I think we might need to consider rallying around you. Even if Ultra is the vig and proves it by killing dough, I agree with dough that he is a menace to the village and needs to be lynched because the mafia is loving having him around. The only two players that are the least likely to be mafia is dough and you and dough is gonna be dead:( That means we might need to come up with a strategy to convince others to let you be the voice of the village. If you don't want to be the spokesperson, I understand that too but I have a really bad feeling about the shape the village is going to be in shortly. I guess we'll have to see how the night plays out. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]10 Aug 2017, 02:04[/size] I thought for sure Jimi was the inspector with his last comment about 'I'm certain about two.' That would have meant 2 nights, 2 inspections. I'm pretty sure the mafia picked up on that as well which is why he was killed. If it was a sacrificial fake out move to distract from the true doctor and inspector, wow. Brilliant. I guess I was right about dough:( [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]10 Aug 2017, 02:23[/size] Ely, You are amazing! You deserve MVP as a mafia. You spent a considerable amount of time and reason in your posts to me (which were truly genius) to get me to trust you so that you could keep my gaze elsewhere. You were well hidden in plain sight to me. The first inkling of suspicion I had regarding you was when you said "if I am lynched my advice would be trust noone". I spent a considerable amount of time looking into skarni and ultra. And now that ultra is confirmed and all vanillagers have claimed without a counter claim that leaves inspector and doc or mafia from those unconfirmed. I believe you are not either of the village power roles, you have already admitted you are not the doc. You also said jimi was acting too suspicious in the forum shortly before he died, which you painted as concern for the village but this was one of your less clever rouses as noone else thought the same, leaving you as the only person with a motive to want jimi dead. You were also scared jimi had inspected you already based on a short convo you two had in a live game. You chose me to manipulate because you know one of my failings is that I trust people too easily, especially after last game (I'm pretty sure you mistake my trusting nature for lack of intelligence but lets pretend not), and as you found that I was making good connections with others you decided to remain revealed using the silence as a tool I could use to suspect others. You knew I would turn the attention away from you and onto others which worked day 1. I'm sorry Ely I have to vote for you. PS I like your raps :thumbs: [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]10 Aug 2017, 02:31[/size] If you have to vote for me, so be it. I didn't think I would have been around this long anyway with all the twisted logic coming from Ultra and Skarni. I do think you are intelligent so if you do lynch me and find out that I have not lied to you, remember that anyone who has openly revealed their roles could be lying (except Ultra, of course). PS Thanks for liking my raps;) [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]10 Aug 2017, 02:31[/size] My advice remains the same, TRUST NO ONE! [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]10 Aug 2017, 03:08[/size] Well played ely I am truly impressed :) if I am correct then mayba is also mafia and you two decided not to lynch the inspector because that would immediately cast her as guilty. [hr] [b][user]CheekyTeeky[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]10 Aug 2017, 03:10[/size] Kill not lynch* [hr][/spoiler] Lynch me if you must to help save the village but you all really should carry on with exactly the play you stated but put Cheeky in there instead of me. Just sayin' and that's all I gotta say until night fall.

ely nice try but cheeky is cleared by inspection

Says who? You're not the inspector. change vote to: #lynch CheekyTeeky

except i've known who the inspector is since midway through day one :P

ely dont worry. If you turn to be cheeky card, next day we lynch cheeky and we won the game since the inspector clears kyla/dw

if he turns to cheeky card that means the "inspector" is lying to us, one of kyla dw huskers or yourself is being stupid since one of them is the actual inspector, and alphax and cheeky are the remaining mafia

lynch ely5, and he results to be 4. Mafia kill the doc at night. we have remaining. Inspector clears kyla/dw 2 of spades: huskers 3 of spades: Skarni 4 of spades: Cheeky (obviously lying, then mafia), [s]ely[/s] 7 of spades: dwcalvert, kyla Doctor: [s]Mayba[/s] Inspector: Alpha Sheriff: Ultra We know who dw/kyla are the mafia. we lynch cheeky. Mafia kills one of us, lets say me. 2 of spades: huskers 3 of spades:[s] Skarni[/s] 4 of spades: [s]Cheeky (obviously lying, then mafia[/s]), [s]ely[/s] 7 of spades: dwcalvert, kyla Doctor: [s]Mayba[/s] Inspector: Alpha Sheriff: Ultra huskers, alpha, ultra and dw/kyla lynch the remaining mafia dw/kyla game is won even then. great effort ely to tel you are l4, but your late, and also almost sure lying.

totally agree ultra, if there are still people who is not mafia lying about their role, they are not very smart at plaing this game

yep basically just going through the motions at this point

Ok, the inspector is lying to you. How do I know this? You figure it out. Doc, you need to save me. You know I know I do not know who you are. I wasn't able to find you;( If someone 'did', they are the real mafia. I SO did not want to give up my role. grrr...Actually, read my message to Cheeky. That will convince you. I accused her because I thought for sure she was mafia. She was either duped or the real 4 of spades needs to say something now.

ely i appreciate the attempts but you're asking us to believe that alphax somehow guessed jimi was 6 xD

Actually, don't save me. Save yourself if they are going to lynch me instead of Cheeky, you might not survive another night.

So alpha is the other mafia. I should have inspected him instead of confiding in him He convinced me he was a villager and I told him I had inspected Jimi.. I thought for sure it was Cheeky who killed Jimi. Do not lynch Cheeky. She is not mafia, alpha is. Argg. change vote to: #lynch alpha

elysium pls

ely if alpha is mafia, who is the other inspector?