The case of the three scenarios and why i believe #Lynch Hoodlum is the right moveAs you can see from Anaxagore's post above, four of us have cleared each other. We did this using the method of each one individaully telling me the number of words in their role pm. If they gave me the correct number i gave them a word from my role pm that seemed like it would be exclusive to town. This was followed by a word from theirs.
Message: Simpleton anax - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: CheekyTeeky, Anaxagore
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:30
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:32
28, including my name.
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:32
good technique.
Share the info in the forum before someone shares his PM publicly.
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:36
Nice just one more check so you can trust me. The 8th word in mine is weapons
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:36
(i'm vanilla townie too).
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:38
My 10th is "your".
I trust you.
Message: Simpleton Skarni - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: skarni, CheekyTeeky
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:27
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
skarni said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:59
27 plus my name.
And in yours? Can you tell me if there is any words with a format different than the standar?
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 23:38
Yup the faction name and role is a different colour. But i suspect thats the same for every role pm. I have 28 including my name, Is that what you meant? My 8th word is weapons. Whats your 11th word?
skarni said:
28 Nov 2017, 00:16
Voice. Can u tell me which colour is used?
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 00:18
Green
skarni said:
28 Nov 2017, 00:19
We are cleared I think. Only contacted by you and hood
Message: Simpleton marc - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: CheekyTeeky, MarcESK
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:29
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 12:08
I have 28 words.
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 12:50
Cool. My 14th word is vote. Whats your 10th word?
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 13:43
Voice
What is your 3rd word?
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 18:24
Seriously? How can voice be the 10th if vote is the 14th?
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 18:44
Your
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 18:44
This was a check to know if I can trust you
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 21:22
Nice. We on the same page now?
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 22:04
yup, seems so
And around 15 hours ago i postsd a challenge for anyone to come forward and dispute my vanillager claim. And as you can see there isnt one so this shows im telling the truth in these messages above.
I also received a message from jimi eventually
Message: Simpleton jimi - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: Jimi, CheekyTeeky
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:25
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 10:43
hey man, we didn't talk yet,
I know you don't have to trust me, but I gave some words to skarni, and I don't know if that's the right thing to do, I don't trust even skarni,
what do you think about mada, and anax?
Sygmassacre said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:26
Mada = cop
Anax = vanilla
I cleared anax first, like within the first hour. No way either of us could have gotten a vanilla role pm that quick. And it would be dumb for mada to claim cop if hes mafia. All it takes is the real cop to come forward and they both get lynched and one of them will be mafia. Then its 4 or 5 on 1 and not much chance of a mafia win. So i believe mada's claim
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:29
I believe that too, I guess he is wat he said... I have contacted anax, and anax also asked me about a word.. I gave it to him, I was scared to give him. but if you trust him then why not.. but what makes me think you are a vanilla is illogical yet, I have no solid information about you yet.
Sygmassacre said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:37
Well if you had answered when i sent the message youd have no doubts right now lol. But thats cool.
Its impossible for me to get a role pm off anyone that soon. But id like to know if you gave hood any of yours? He sent me my win clause and said if i fill the blanks he would trust me. I told him i didnt need him to trust me as ive already 2 people cleared using my tactic. But it would be helpful to know how he got it because he is probably going to get lynched first and knowing someone gave it to him would make that easier to achieve
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:40
I shared nothing with him
I actually don't trust anyone, even skarni or you.
maybe elysium is the only one I trust
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:40
elysium is the only one I shared my whole role with...
Sygmassacre said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:50
What possessed you to give it to ely lol
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:52
I talked to him in a very long conversation, and he trusted me, he shared part of his role then I shared my whole role to make him trust me too, I don't believe he is a mafia... let's wait and see.
So with four of us cleared and mada having flipped town there are four players left that can be mafia. These are the scenarios that i believe are most likely
1.. hood and Huskers
2. Jimi and ely
3. Hood and ely
1. If jimi is telling the truth then he is the last vanillager which makes ely the doc. Hood and huskers must be the 2 mafia.
2. If jimi is lying and somehow got the role pm off huskers it would be easy to infiltrate the village. This scenario would explain why hood had our win condition as he would be town.
3. They somehow tricked huskers to give his role pm. Ely then used it to trick jimi into giving his.
So my question is how do we go about finding out the truth?
I would choose hood because it would answer so many questions knowing who he is. If hood flips town then its reasonable to assume jimi lied about giving his role pm. And if he flips mafia then we are one step closer with only huskers left.
We need 5 to lynch today so one more is needed. If we wait and let the day pass then we are no closer to the truth come D3 and then it becomes a stab in the dark.
So i urge one of the last 2 town to vote with us so we can move forward with more clarity
(Some of the messages had bits deleted to avoid potential embarrassment and views on other players. If anyone feels wronged by this then of course they are free to release the full convo if they so wish)
[b]The case of the three scenarios and why i believe #Lynch Hoodlum is the right move[/b]
As you can see from Anaxagore's post above, four of us have cleared each other. We did this using the method of each one individaully telling me the number of words in their role pm. If they gave me the correct number i gave them a word from my role pm that seemed like it would be exclusive to town. This was followed by a word from theirs.
[spoiler]Message: Simpleton anax - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: CheekyTeeky, Anaxagore
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:30
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:32
28, including my name.
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:32
good technique.
Share the info in the forum before someone shares his PM publicly.
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:36
Nice just one more check so you can trust me. The 8th word in mine is weapons
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:36
(i'm vanilla townie too).
Anaxagore said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:38
My 10th is "your".
I trust you.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Message: Simpleton Skarni - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: skarni, CheekyTeeky
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:27
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
skarni said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:59
27 plus my name.
And in yours? Can you tell me if there is any words with a format different than the standar?
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 23:38
Yup the faction name and role is a different colour. But i suspect thats the same for every role pm. I have 28 including my name, Is that what you meant? My 8th word is weapons. Whats your 11th word?
skarni said:
28 Nov 2017, 00:16
Voice. Can u tell me which colour is used?
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 00:18
Green
skarni said:
28 Nov 2017, 00:19
We are cleared I think. Only contacted by you and hood[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Message: Simpleton marc - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: CheekyTeeky, MarcESK
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:29
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 12:08
I have 28 words.
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 12:50
Cool. My 14th word is vote. Whats your 10th word?
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 13:43
Voice
What is your 3rd word?
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 18:24
Seriously? How can voice be the 10th if vote is the 14th?
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 18:44
Your
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 18:44
This was a check to know if I can trust you
Sygmassacre said:
28 Nov 2017, 21:22
Nice. We on the same page now?
MarcESK said:
28 Nov 2017, 22:04
yup, seems so[/spoiler]
And around 15 hours ago i postsd a challenge for anyone to come forward and dispute my vanillager claim. And as you can see there isnt one so this shows im telling the truth in these messages above.
I also received a message from jimi eventually
[spoiler]Message: Simpleton jimi - syg
From: Sygmassacre
To: Jimi, CheekyTeeky
Sygmassacre said:
27 Nov 2017, 22:25
Hey im looking for team mates. How many words are in your role pm? Im vanilla townie so i know how many are in mine. If your number matches mine we can work together
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 10:43
hey man, we didn't talk yet,
I know you don't have to trust me, but I gave some words to skarni, and I don't know if that's the right thing to do, I don't trust even skarni,
what do you think about mada, and anax?
Sygmassacre said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:26
Mada = cop
Anax = vanilla
I cleared anax first, like within the first hour. No way either of us could have gotten a vanilla role pm that quick. And it would be dumb for mada to claim cop if hes mafia. All it takes is the real cop to come forward and they both get lynched and one of them will be mafia. Then its 4 or 5 on 1 and not much chance of a mafia win. So i believe mada's claim
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:29
I believe that too, I guess he is wat he said... I have contacted anax, and anax also asked me about a word.. I gave it to him, I was scared to give him. but if you trust him then why not.. but what makes me think you are a vanilla is illogical yet, I have no solid information about you yet.
Sygmassacre said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:37
Well if you had answered when i sent the message youd have no doubts right now lol. But thats cool.
Its impossible for me to get a role pm off anyone that soon. But id like to know if you gave hood any of yours? He sent me my win clause and said if i fill the blanks he would trust me. I told him i didnt need him to trust me as ive already 2 people cleared using my tactic. But it would be helpful to know how he got it because he is probably going to get lynched first and knowing someone gave it to him would make that easier to achieve
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:40
I shared nothing with him
I actually don't trust anyone, even skarni or you.
maybe elysium is the only one I trust
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:40
elysium is the only one I shared my whole role with...
Sygmassacre said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:50
What possessed you to give it to ely lol
Jimi said:
30 Nov 2017, 12:52
I talked to him in a very long conversation, and he trusted me, he shared part of his role then I shared my whole role to make him trust me too, I don't believe he is a mafia... let's wait and see.[/spoiler]
So with four of us cleared and mada having flipped town there are four players left that can be mafia. These are the scenarios that i believe are most likely
1.. hood and Huskers
2. Jimi and ely
3. Hood and ely
1. If jimi is telling the truth then he is the last vanillager which makes ely the doc. Hood and huskers must be the 2 mafia.
2. If jimi is lying and somehow got the role pm off huskers it would be easy to infiltrate the village. This scenario would explain why hood had our win condition as he would be town.
3. They somehow tricked huskers to give his role pm. Ely then used it to trick jimi into giving his.
So my question is how do we go about finding out the truth?
I would choose hood because it would answer so many questions knowing who he is. If hood flips town then its reasonable to assume jimi lied about giving his role pm. And if he flips mafia then we are one step closer with only huskers left.
We need 5 to lynch today so one more is needed. If we wait and let the day pass then we are no closer to the truth come D3 and then it becomes a stab in the dark.
So i urge one of the last 2 town to vote with us so we can move forward with more clarity
(Some of the messages had bits deleted to avoid potential embarrassment and views on other players. If anyone feels wronged by this then of course they are free to release the full convo if they so wish)
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