Team Matches

@Thorpe, once team games are official, it won't be a tournament, so no substitutes. But this is a test, something just to try and see how far we can come with what we have, lets just do this and have fun ok ;)

[quote=lifeinpixels]I think it was fair to give Spartakus 3 days to find a new partner because the situation was out of his control.[/quote] Come on Pixel, really? It seems like we live on 2 different planets. How can you say "out of his control"? Who picked sekretar as a teammate? I didn't, he did it. As I said "You are the referee. You have not to judge the single person. You have to judge the teams." Imagine this like a sport competition. Tennis for example. Put the case a player strikes the referee with the racket. He would be probably banned from the sport for the next 10 years. The whole team would be probably banned from that tournament. It is not the case to say: "Your teammate is bad person, but you are good guy, I give you 3 days to find a new teammate". Ridiculous... I know it's hard to win 1 against 2. But in that case it was still a [i]great[/i] grant. The alternative was to immediately end the game and give us a forfeiture win. "Your teammate is a bad person, I am sorry that you have to pay for him. Period" Every time I asked an admin to end a game in this site, the answer always was: "only with the complete agreement of the other players". Now we are contemplating a new rule: [b]an admin can end a game because he prefers to see a good game...[/b] But, that was my game! You didn't ask to me if I agreed! My team had the right to decide if we wanted a new game or not. I would have [i]probably[/i] agreed with a new game but not with a 72h grant. I mean, when Aero asked to me if I had a teammate for a live game, I found 3 players in a quarter of hour, just typing one line in the lobby chat. That's so easy! 72 hours was too much. About the quality of this tourney... As I said it looks more like a friend tournament with child rules. Most of people here are just playing for fun. I would have loved something more competitive. Well, I don't mind. I'll just have fun to play. But at the moment I'm not having any fun nor playing. The tourney started 5 days ago and I am still waiting to begin my first game. I mean my [i]second[/i] first game. That is not fun nor high quality. Sorry. By the way I clearly understand that this is the first team tournament and it can be lacking in some features. Plus, most of the teams have been formed casually in this case. But please Pixel don't try to explain to me why your action was right, because then I will answer to you why it was wrong and we will go on forever. I don't want to debate that case anymore. I forgot it. I want just to give my help to fix some rules for the next tournament and the next games. Does anybody agree with that Thorpe and I are saying, i.e. one is responsible for the teammate he picks? I can't see how to disagree really. Does anybody agree with the rules I proposed here above?

[quote=The_Bishop - Dec 10, 08:58 PM]Every time I asked an admin to end a game in this site, the answer always was: "only with the complete agreement of the other players". [/quote] Except that this time it's not a random game, but a tournament for which different rules already applied. Apparently the rules for this current tournament are that: - if your partner leaves in the first session of the games, you can find a substitute in 3 days. I agree that on other tournaments we need the rules to be a bit better, maybe different, maybe now, that's not mine to decide. Please note that I have played other tournaments (no team games), and if in one of those game a player got missing early on, than the game just waited for a substitute player, sometimes longer than 3 days. If the game was going for a while, than sometimes no player was substituted, sometimes it was. Well, it happends.

It was my mistake in the first place not to clarify more rules (72 hours, missing teammates, etc). I still don't think that I was wrong in giving Spartakus time to find a new teammate, even though 72 hours may have been a bit long. But I don't think debating it here will help much so I won't keep pushing my position. I understand where you're coming from and next time I will be sure to make it clear before the games start, that any trouble with teams will count as a forfeit. When that is made clear then I will have no problem kicking teams out who aren't ready within a short time (24 hours after the games are released, probably). I am very sorry about all these difficulties with your game, and I hope that next time will be a smoother process.

for me it would be better that if 1 player is banned or abandons the game, you loose the game and maybe also the team banned from the tournament. it will be easier for the staff to rule that, and i think is totally fair for all (select teammates carefully, your mate is playing in YOUR team also, his/her attitudes speak about you also). On the other hand Bishop, my team is playing stronlgy competitive. Ay carmela (muzuane and me) will show that to your team if we get crossed on the tourney!!

I think it is important to remember that this is new and any mistakes or suggestions or rule additions/subtractions can be made based on this tourny as I think this is still in the baby stages. I've heard a lot of great suggestions so far. I don't want to add too much to the discussion yet as I would like to get a little playing under my belt a bit first to make any proper assessments.

Skarni, Bishop, I agree with what you're saying, but the reason that I did not ban Spartakus this game is because i failed to clarify the rules before hand. He didn't know, so I don't think it would have been fair. Next time, I will most likely implement your suggestions. Thanks for all your feedback so far!

Axobongo and Clarke will be replacing Sekretar and Spartakus in the game against The_Bishop and Crystal. Their team name will be announced shortly.

@Bishop, skarni has already warned you. No mercy when we have our dice ready ;-)

Ahahah LOL you are very funny guys... Glad to see your comment Skarni, anyway we won't have pity on you!! As for the dice Muzuane, our average is 5.7 and still improving, you don't have any chances: [b]STAR DUST WILL BURY YOU ALL!![/b] Be scared of death...

Now we got that out of they way...This is the chat I waited to hear... [quote=The_Bishop][b]STAR DUST WILL BURY YOU ALL!![/b][/quote] and [quote=skarni]On the other hand Bishop, my team is playing stronlgy competitive. Ay carmela (muzuane and me) will show that to your team if we get crossed on the tourney!![/quote] It seems like they should play each other.

Sorry to go back to the banned team thing. There were NO rules in place for banned players in the 4-man team tournament and when Spartakus's team mate andjelicicic was banned, there was no team ban nor replacement. His troop placement killed my game and high ranked players who are in this tournament too, turned a blind eye to it, with just comments in the chat similar to "LOL aero's blocked". I would have loved a restart! The players in that game know full well that I was becoming a formidable force and if I had control of all my hard-earned troops, the game would have been completely different. The outcome was, Pink Kamikazee'd on me to ensure 2nd place. A bitter pill to swallow, but that one has been swept under the rug! So I very much doubt that anybody, including the staff, actually just wants QUALITY tournament games, but actually want a win giving prestige, honour & a lovely warm SMUG feeling!! ([i]Has anyone noticed anything about the players that keep getting banned? I'll leave this one with you![/i])

By the way, I believe (Lord_Cyruss & Princess : The Royal Army) were first reserves as they were the 17th team to register. Post #276

2nd Reserves are: (jbgsr13 & torchitall = torch13) #279 3rd Reserves are: (jawwah98 & Muzthebus = Muzthejawwah) #288 4th Reserves are: (Axobongo & Clarke = Axo & Clarke) #292

@Aeronautic - Where did you play that tourney? In this site?