Savage Garden

@anex. I shared my role with you 2 days ago. You never replied and also call me sus and innactive. That sounds pretty suspicious to me

Would like to hear from others… maybe we put out our top 2 candidates?

All of you. Mac KC Rock no particular order.

My response is regarding my post today and Anax question not BK's. Just FYI.

[quote=KC321]@anex. I shared my role with you 2 days ago. You never replied and also call me sus and innactive. That sounds pretty suspicious to me [/quote] You told me you are tomato I didn't think that was something important Also i haven't replied to other people and I'm sorry for that. Sometimes i read stuff and sleep and forget i should reply

I was thinking the argument defending Rockbert is that he didn't know RC was gardener

Abs did 2 things that could be considered spew. He tried to lynch pyg which means pyg is likely town, unless abs is very advanced in spewing strategy and knew ten was gonna get lynched over pyg his partner? He said BadKarma did a mistake by posting in the forum but my gut says this is BS as he didn't feel natural so i wanna put BadKarma in the town pile for this, and his active stance in trying to solve the game

[quote=Anaxagore]I was thinking the argument defending Rockbert is that he didn't know RC was gardener[/quote] I did not know that he was gardener. We never had a pm between us.

Well I was wrong on Thick as he was on my list. Low, but still there. @anax Abs could have had the advanced play there by knowing Ten would have easily taken the votes between those two. I agree with the BK statement. My PMs have slowed so that leaves me on edge. As of now, staying with my original post of pgy. I felt like we let that one slip early on and he dodged salt. idk though

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=BadKarma][quote=Tennesseelogman]salt vote pyg - 4 - rock, mac. abs, kc no salt = 2 - tenn, 2oc abs - 2 - pyg, jkl tenn - 1 - anax not yet voted - 4 - rc. notor, thick, bad dead - 3 (all town) - tenn1/dream. hood, ryo[/quote] @Anax, why were you voting for Tenn here? [/quote] Also look who voted for Pyg here. [/quote] GOOD POINT!

#salt mac

This is the best play, mac has been accusatory all game, I have received no pms from them, and they have repeatedly voted against town, my top three are mac, rock, kc, in that order.

Two chats i think everyone should read [spoiler] ThickTalon said: 16 Aug 2022, 15:41 None of you have reached out to me, nor mentioned me. But to be fair I have only spoken to Hood, 2 of C, TLM, and Dream (only 1 day) Today is key with compelling arguments from both Abs and Tenn...... one is lying. Who you all got? ThickTalon said: 16 Aug 2022, 15:54 Sorry not Dream but I had a 1 day chat with BK but he hasn't responded as of yet since that first day contact. Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:52 Abs is lying. He is a slug and I know this to be a fact Anaxagore said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:54 Spoiler (click to hide) Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:40 there is nobody town confirmed 100% yet since only inspections can verify hood inspected jkl = tomato night 1, hood inspected abs - night 2 but no report given morning gardener inspected tenn1 but night killed, inspected jkl night 2, inspected ryo night 3, inspected abs night 4 = slug Anaxagore said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:44 So either this is bullshit or you're the morning gardener right? Because otherwise there is no way you would know this Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:46 actually i am not the gardener - but if you think it would be best to claim it i will. seems no need now. either abs or i will get salted today and either way the truth will come out. Anaxagore said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:47 This is a black or white situation, I'm tomato and you probably are getting lynched without me so it's time to talk Anaxagore said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:48 If you are not gardener and.the gardener didn't inspect you, how would you know who the gardener inspected? You are just lying and i caught you in your lies If you are gardener RC why would Tenn tell me this. Anaxagore said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:57 Who did you inspect? If you didn't inspect Tenn why would you trust him? Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:02 I have inspected tenn1, jkl, ryo and abs. Two of my inspections were killed by slugs the night I inspected them (tenn1 and ryo) I was in communication with jkl which led to chatting with tenn as well. I took a shot at trusting tenn and he has not given me reason to distrust him. He has given focus on abs who's a slug Anaxagore said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:08 I guess if you are the gardener, then Tenn is not slug or else you would be dead by now. I need to think a bit Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:56 That's my hope at least for tenn ThickTalon said: 16 Aug 2022, 20:23 Thanks for the response. at this moment I will be salting Abs. ThickTalon said: 16 Aug 2022, 23:44 So pyg...are you deflecting? pygmyhippo277 said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:21 wdym? ThickTalon said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:28 Well...Rcomer posted above exactly what you posed In the main forum pygmyhippo277 said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:30 im actually confused about what you mean? ThickTalon said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:38 Did you not post in the main Forum that you were the Gardener as Rcomer did above? [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 15:13 here we are this seems to all be town - with 2 semi-unknown = notor and kc i will let the gardener reveal himself if he wants to i kinda threw thick and pyg under the bus when i said that the gardener has not yet been online but he has and inspected abs and found him slug Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 15:17 i included the dead townies even though they can not speak yet - please include me in the town chats if i die in this game or in future games since i always keep up as well as i can by reading the forum - and i often die early :( ThickTalon said: 16 Aug 2022, 15:21 Here I am stuck in the middle with compelling arguments in the main forum. Soo interesting. How can I confirm that the Gardener is here and I should trust you both (or all 4) as so? I want to just today is pivotal to the outcome of the game. Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 15:32 yes i implied thick or pyg is the gardener to try and make sure the gardener does not get night killed. we could use another inspection or 2 from him. but at some point we may need to have him killed so that slugs do not kill all tomatoes. killing the gardener is not part of their win clause so really = he will become expendable - sorry gardener. Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 15:55 the gardener inspected abs = and he is slug Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:52 Yes, abs is a slug Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 16:53 Rcomer727 said: 15 Aug 2022, 20:31 Investigate abs elysium5 said: 16 Aug 2022, 05:16 You have correctly identified Abs as a Slug. Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:03 I honestly don't know how to paste the info that shows it with the "spoiler" text Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:09 you copy/paste it and then highlight it and hit the little triangle up to the right of bold, underline, etc. like this. it is second from the end Spoiler (click to hide) will you tell who you inspected each night? Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:25 we can not have a tie - we need to salt me or abs - either one will expose the truth i will vote for myself to avoid a tie. and will recruit 2-3 of you to switch to me if needed near the end. we can't do it too early though or they may switch to make a tie = that would be the best thing for them at this point. 2ofclubs said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:28 I am on the out side observing - let me know. Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:32 it would be good to know who can and will be online 5 minutes before the deadline along with me so that we can orchestrate a plan to avoid a tie vote. or 2 of us could go ahead and vote for me and see if 2 of them flip to me ???? Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:33 them flip to me ???? flip to abs i meant 2ofclubs said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:41 Ten don't get flustered and make mistakes. Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:45 there are really only 3 live players in this chat that know 100% that abs is slug = me and pyg because he claimed inspection of us as slug and rc because he inspected him and found him slug. i think kc and notor are town and fooled and will not switch their votes - so i encourage you all to either go ahead and vote for me or abstain or withhold your vote until near the end. = kill me and all is verified - right? if i die and flip tomato - there will be no doubt about abs - but will there be any doubt about mac or rock? 2ofclubs said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:51 3? Tenn Thick Anax Clubs Rcom Pyg Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:55 Spoiler (click to hide) ame 1325099 by kbdavis. Shop Dashboard Turns (1) Messages (9) Premium Dominating 12 Home Maps Forums Tournaments Player ranks Who's online Information How to start playing! Live (speed) games 2 games waiting for players Long term games 111 games waiting for players Dashboard Create a game Read message Dashboard Messages (create) Games News Notifications Shop Account & settings Referral program Premium membership Message: Savage Garden Role PM From: elysium5 To: Rcomer727 elysium5 said: 07 Aug 2022, 05:59 You are the Morning Gardener. Day Action You can vote to #Salt Players Name each day phase. Night Action You can #Identify Players Name each night phase and your results in the morning will tell you whether or not your target was the Afternoon Gardener, a Tomato Plant or a Slug. Win Clause: You win if all the Slugs die before they kill the Tomato Plants. Rcomer727 said: 07 Aug 2022, 17:08 Awesome! Do you have any suggestions as to how to be successful in this role? Is active pm chat a good thing or bad? elysium5 said: 07 Aug 2022, 17:16 For some people active chatting can be both good and bad. It just depends on the responses I guess. I don't have any specific suggestions other than to try and survive until you can start identifying potential targets(Slugs) or other team mates and then decide who you trust to try and work with them. Rcomer727 said: 08 Aug 2022, 03:33 #identify Tennessee logman elysium5 said: 09 Aug 2022, 04:18 You have correctly identified Tennesseelogman as a Tomato Plant. Unfortunately this does not help you as Tennesseelogman was eaten by Slugs during the night. Rcomer727 said: 09 Aug 2022, 15:23 Guessing I don't get to know Tennessees new role lol elysium5 said: 09 Aug 2022, 15:24 Not unless you inspect him again;) Rcomer727 said: 10 Aug 2022, 19:04 #identify jkl elysium5 said: 10 Aug 2022, 19:07 got it Rcomer727 said: 11 Aug 2022, 17:46 So what were the results? elysium5 said: 12 Aug 2022, 05:31 You have correctly identified jkl3699 as a Tomato Plant. Rcomer727 said: 12 Aug 2022, 16:21 Am I able to forward this to jkl as proof if asked? Rcomer727 said: 13 Aug 2022, 21:12 #investigate ryo elysium5 said: 14 Aug 2022, 01:37 I have no rules about copy and pasting. elysium5 said: 14 Aug 2022, 02:30 You have correctly identified Ryomyr as a Tomato Plant. Unfortunately that doesn't help you as Ryomyr was killed by slugs during the night. Rcomer727 said: 15 Aug 2022, 20:31 Investigate abs elysium5 said: 16 Aug 2022, 05:16 You have correctly identified Abs as a Slug. Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 17:56 There ya go. That is my full unaltered text Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 18:40 i almost think rc should out himself to kc and notor because if we salt me and they kill pyg = they (kc and pyg) will certainly vote off abs but may still be confused and not vote to kill mac, rock, and bad. pyg, rc, and i are the only ones that know for sure beyond any debate or doubt that abs is slug at this point. and if pyg and i are dead by the time the next day/discussion phase comes around - they might not believe rc. Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 18:48 Ok done. I would rather we try and off abs Anaxagore said: 16 Aug 2022, 18:50 No no.don't.out.yourself The result of the lynch is enough to see who lies You're gonna be.killed if you spread.the word to everyone Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 18:54 rc - you have had the worse luck on your inspections - even this one where you found abs - since he outed himself with his claim so i wish you had done rock, mac, or bad. but nobody knew abs would do that so at the time he was definitely the best choice. 1st - tenn1 - dead before results could be verified and we could chat 2nd - jkl - duplicate inspection as hood and now dead and can not verify w the group 3rd - ryo - dead before results 4th - abs - great inspection = slug - but now duplicates the same info pgy and i have and now pyg not online to verify abs is lying Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 18:55 yea - i would say hold off til the end - let pyg come online to verify the abs lie Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 19:00 Well shit Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 19:31 that's ok - at least you didn't out yourself in the forum did you tell both of them? pygmyhippo277 said: 16 Aug 2022, 19:33 I TOLD YOU GUYS ABS WAS A SLUG!!! Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 19:50 Yes Tennesseelogman said: 16 Aug 2022, 19:59 no problem 2ofclubs said: 16 Aug 2022, 20:43 It will be ok . Lies ketchup lol. We have them out numbered in either case. I d say ghe no salt worked even with the bad luck inspections and kills. We hang loose and slugs squirm. pygmyhippo277 said: 16 Aug 2022, 21:05 yeah 2, casting doubt on me cool idea, I do need to catch up in the forums. 2ofclubs said: 16 Aug 2022, 21:10 Not intended to cast doubt. Just not wanting us to lose sight or be blinded sided by the Abs/ ten mud. pygmyhippo277 said: 16 Aug 2022, 21:54 either im stupid, or im a genius, we shall see! Rcomer727 said: 16 Aug 2022, 22:19 Actually sent a message to the wrong notorious so only kc has my note Tennesseelogman said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:52 i am starting to think notor may be town and it's possible mac is. most of my assumptions are based on the last day's votes and those who stayed on pyg. ThickTalon said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:53 Ok. That puts Abs, KC, Rock, and Karma as Slugly ThickTalon said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:54 By your assumption. 2ofclubs said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:54 Ten as leader we need consistancy. 2ofclubs said: 17 Aug 2022, 00:55 I think you claimed everyone sluggy by now LoL ThickTalon said: 17 Aug 2022, 01:01 2 of C.. you Makin some cents Tennesseelogman said: 17 Aug 2022, 01:05 it might be better to say who we (i) have confidence in being town 100 % town = tenn, rc next tier = anax, 2oc, thick close 3rd = pyg leaning slug = notor, mac likely slug = kc, bad most likely slug = rock. known slug = abs 2ofclubs said: 17 Aug 2022, 01:15 100 % town = clubs Ryo jkl Hood next tier = anax, thick rc notor close 3rd = pyg mac 50/50 = ten bad rock kc dream known slug = abs Don't panic if this doesn't match our PMs you should know why. Tennesseelogman said: 17 Aug 2022, 01:53 neither kc nor notor has been online for several hours and will not flip - 2oc says he will vote abs last minute and make a tie should i flip and kill myself ? if it's a toe are back here next time w no more info? Rcomer727 said: 17 Aug 2022, 01:58 100% Red blooded Tomato loving Slug fighter: me Blood Red: hood, ryo, jkl, tenn1 Mostly Red: Tenn, thick A little too Red: notor, pyg, 2ofc, anax, and any other players not listed as I'm running out of time Fell off the tree and has been sitting in the dirt a little too long: Mac, rock, notor Rotten: abs[/spoiler]

This explains a bit more what happened behind the scenes and made me vote Abs