Mafia Reindeer Games

Oh Tennessee, what a tangled web you weave...haha. You've managed to stir things up quite a bit in this whole thing. If you're goal is confusion and strife, then well played.

[quote=Tennesseelogman]response to alex - it was just a gag. interesting to see how fixated you are on it. it has gotten some real traction. if i knew more i would be pushing for a virt98 lynch. here - i'll do it again - alex told me he is the ghost of Christmas past and that he must steal somebodies' soul to live forever. he didn't say how but it must involve 2 reindeer[/quote] Nice try. I don't believe you simply guessed on Hoodlum and V98. I believe you either knew about Hoodlum: 1) through what elysium told you at the start, 2) by you using some ability specific to your role, 3) someone telling you about Hoodlum, or 4) Hoodlum simply giving you this information through PM I might forget something... but not 5) you sucking it out of your thumb For completeness sake... I didn't tell TLM/anyone something about a ghost role about me.

[quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Tennesseelogman]response to alex - it was just a gag. interesting to see how fixated you are on it. it has gotten some real traction. if i knew more i would be pushing for a virt98 lynch. here - i'll do it again - alex told me he is the ghost of Christmas past and that he must steal somebodies' soul to live forever. he didn't say how but it must involve 2 reindeer[/quote] Nice try. I don't believe you simply guessed on Hoodlum and V98. I believe you either knew about Hoodlum: 1) through what elysium told you at the start, 2) by you using some ability specific to your role, 3) someone telling you about Hoodlum, or 4) Hoodlum simply giving you this information through PM I might forget something... but not 5) you sucking it out of your thumb For completeness sake... I didn't tell TLM/anyone something about a ghost role about me. [/quote] Didnt you just vote to save this guy? Why would you put some much faith in someone you clearly dont trust?

[quote=Mdhaglund][quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Tennesseelogman]response to alex - it was just a gag. interesting to see how fixated you are on it. it has gotten some real traction. if i knew more i would be pushing for a virt98 lynch. here - i'll do it again - alex told me he is the ghost of Christmas past and that he must steal somebodies' soul to live forever. he didn't say how but it must involve 2 reindeer[/quote] Nice try. I don't believe you simply guessed on Hoodlum and V98. I believe you either knew about Hoodlum: 1) through what elysium told you at the start, 2) by you using some ability specific to your role, 3) someone telling you about Hoodlum, or 4) Hoodlum simply giving you this information through PM I might forget something... but not 5) you sucking it out of your thumb For completeness sake... I didn't tell TLM/anyone something about a ghost role about me. [/quote] Didnt you just vote to save this guy? Why would you put some much faith in someone you clearly dont trust?[/quote] Because he's playing and an asset to the game. People can lie about certain things, without having bad intentions. I do feel good vibes coming from TLM, but there's more leaving from his mouth/hands than just plain truth. Which makes sense too; even the good guys need to deceive a bit here and there to arrive where they need to arrive, as they're also dealing with the other factions. Now that I've got [i]your attention[/i]; please give me [i]your view[/i] on this snowman thing - you keep on avoiding this topic too.

response to alex - same garbage - i just accused somebody of being jimmy Steward or Clarence the angel in pm. there is no snowman (abdominal or frosty).

I believe the snowman thing holds just as much weight as you being the ghost of Christmas past. If you say the snowman thing is worth looking into, so does the ghost thing. Ive been trying to avoid what TLM has been saying to not enable him and they seem to be doing more harm than good. Why would he just accuse you of being neutral?

I'm making a fuss about the snowman, because he mentioned this in the same early message as he outed Hoodlum as Elf (not in team village/Santa). Hoodlum turned out to indeed not only be in the faction that kills to eradicate the Christmas feeling, but to also be exactly the Elf he had mentioned. I guess there's no point in me bringing this up constantly if noone bothers to give an insightful reply on it. Ignorance is bliss or people are under cahoots :)

[quote=AlexCheckMate]Hoodlum turned out to indeed not only be in the faction that kills to eradicate the Christmas feeling, but to also be exactly the Elf he had mentioned. [/quote] He said buddy the elf. Hood was Elf on the Shelf

[quote=Mdhaglund][quote=AlexCheckMate]Hoodlum turned out to indeed not only be in the faction that kills to eradicate the Christmas feeling, but to also be exactly the Elf he had mentioned. [/quote] He said buddy the elf. Hood was Elf on the Shelf[/quote] I'll give him 10/10 for saying Elf and in a kill faction. But hey, it's just as much your party. If this isn't peculiar to you, I won't interfere with the (pretending to be?) gullible.

Alex, I would never claim abominable snowman ^^ In fact, I claimed to three different players almost immediately on D1, before anyone else as far as I know, so I couldn't have forged the PM. AND no-one else has since claimed that name, which therefore means either I am who I claimed to those people, or I got a 1/9 chance on picking the reindeer that no-one else claimed (assuming all 9 weren't allocated), plus I somehow got the wording of the PM. Simply too impossible. So I must be who I claimed to be to those people.

[quote=Virtuosity98]Alex, I would never claim abominable snowman ^^ In fact, I claimed to three different players almost immediately on D1, before anyone else as far as I know, so I couldn't have forged the PM. AND no-one else has since claimed that name, which therefore means either I am who I claimed to those people, or I got a 1/9 chance on picking the reindeer that no-one else claimed (assuming all 9 weren't allocated), plus I somehow got the wording of the PM. Simply too impossible. So I must be who I claimed to be to those people.[/quote] Took you a good while to write this.

[quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Virtuosity98]Alex, I would never claim abominable snowman ^^ In fact, I claimed to three different players almost immediately on D1, before anyone else as far as I know, so I couldn't have forged the PM. AND no-one else has since claimed that name, which therefore means either I am who I claimed to those people, or I got a 1/9 chance on picking the reindeer that no-one else claimed (assuming all 9 weren't allocated), plus I somehow got the wording of the PM. Simply too impossible. So I must be who I claimed to be to those people.[/quote] Took you a good while to write this.[/quote] Busy and tired. Cmon Alex, you seem intent on pressuring someone who has been semi-confirmed town from D1, based off of a nonsensical post by Tennessee which even he has said was nothing. Notice how Tennessee has never voiced any concern about me or voted to lynch me.

Would like to share this here as I can't make any innocent sense of it [spoiler=My chat with Alex]Madagascarter said: 12 Dec 2020, 22:08 Hey Alex! You're quiet. I'm Prancer and you? AlexCheckMate said: 12 Dec 2020, 22:46 What made you decide to tell me you're Prancer? Madagascarter said: 12 Dec 2020, 23:03 Most people already know AlexCheckMate said: 12 Dec 2020, 23:30 How did they find out? Madagascarter said: 12 Dec 2020, 23:33 I told them like ages ago. Then chats are copied and pasted and eventually people get to know. Please make a claim. You don't have to say ability, just say your name Madagascarter said: 13 Dec 2020, 15:46 You didn't reveal who you are. AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:37 I'd like to go with John. Do you have any (logical) information about Anax/ Hoodlum/V98/Tlm? This is a real conundrum.[/spoiler]

Thanks for sharing! I think it is now obvious that AlexCheckMate is John...as in John Mclain, from the fantastic Christmas movie "Die Hard." This might mean that he is our long lost neutral player, with the ability to shoot the mafia at night. Very cool. This also means that the mafia Boss, aka Hans Gruber, will be likely to run me over for pretending that I know things that I do not know. :)

** @Madagascarter - how'd you make the drop down menu? Useful. Here are my most recent chats with Alex, who also claimed the name "John" in an earlier chat: [quote]rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 04:38 You must have a terribly embarrassing name... :) AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 04:44 Not in the slightest The way you move around lynches in the forum... strange now rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 04:45 I typed out my concern. rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 04:45 shared out... AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 04:49 i replied too AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:30 do you make good pancakes? rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:36 meh AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:38 oh, that's a shame. Good pancakes are a very strong USP rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:40 I think I am missing a key part of your main line of inquiry in the forum. Do I have it right? ... Tennessee told you that Hoodlum was Buddy the Elf and the Virt was "Abominable Snowman"? Can you clarify you main question and who would need to answer it? AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:47 Main Q: why are you (= every reader) not questioning V98? Seeing Hoodlum turned up as an evil elf, I'd be happy to assume v98 would turn up as an evil snowman rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:49 What an incredible game he would be playing!! I understand your question, but I missed how you got the idea that he is the abominable snowman in the first place. AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:54 Makes sense now? rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:57 Not quite. Will you remind me how you arrived at the idea that Virtuosity might be the abominable snowman? AlexCheckMate said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:58 go back in the thread. Find the post in which TLM claims Hoodlum to be elf and V98 snowman. That's it. I guess it's in page 4/5/6 somewhere? rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 16:59 ok rheisel said: 13 Dec 2020, 17:03 I see... Virtuosity98 wrote: Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 16:06 Post #77 AlexCheckMate i don't think 2ofclubs is a good lynch for town. @Tennesseelogman From your message I would distill that both Hoodlum and V98 are maffia? Is that what you're trying to convey? Why not? I've only received two words from him all game, and from his forum posts he seems to be claiming neutral. What other info do you have on the subject that makes you think he's a townie? Also, I never claimed abominable snowman to anyone. That would be sheer idiocy ^^ I am vanilla town.[/quote]