Town of Token - Mafia game

obviously that quote you made up would insinuate that I'm jester

Here is 3 pages of our communications... [spoiler=Page 1]Message: Token - dough/kyla From: Kyla To: Hoodlum, dough_boy Kyla said: 05 Oct 2017, 20:01 Hey, what is your role? dough_boy said: 05 Oct 2017, 20:12 Wow...skipping all pleasantries I see. :) One of these days I might be able to be mafia (of course I could probably have just told Hood I wanted to be one)...but I like the surprise of it. So I am a "Townie". What is your role? Kyla said: 05 Oct 2017, 20:17 I don't know why I ask the roles, I'm not ready to give my own. I asked Hood if I can not be mafia this game, mafia life is a hard life. Mada and jimi said they think people would want to be mafia, nope! Sbs seems to trust you not to be mafia or killer, why ia that? dough_boy said: 05 Oct 2017, 20:38 Don't know...this is what he sent me: sbsportz5 said: 05 Oct 2017, 16:09 Know it is not a reasonable way to trust in a new game, but seeing as you acted rational compared to Cheeky, it is a start. Probably because last time I tried to be rational with cheeky before we got screwed again. Kyla said: 05 Oct 2017, 20:41 That's not a good way to trust ^^ but ok dough_boy said: 06 Oct 2017, 00:27 I can honestly tell you I have never lied about being town when I was mafia. :) Kyla said: 06 Oct 2017, 02:04 first time for everything ;) dough_boy said: 06 Oct 2017, 02:40 I guess. Of course that logic always applies until I am. 4 or 5 games now and I am not...but only the mafia know that. Kyla said: 06 Oct 2017, 02:48 ok then, fair dough_boy said: 07 Oct 2017, 19:53 So...Ely visited you last night...do you know why? What was the message from hood to you? Kyla said: 07 Oct 2017, 22:51 hey dough_boy, I will talk to ely, no idea why but I hope he's protecting me.. are you asking if I got the "You were attacked, but your defense was too high" thing? how could I get that if you apparently got that? dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 00:26 No...as I mentioned in the forums there are only 3 apparent night roles. One killed henris, I doubt the vig did anything so that means mafia had to have attacked me. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 00:43 well you bet those traditions again it seems :) who are you thinking is mafia? dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 00:51 Vig just came out. Did you get any message from Hood? I think that will help me narrow down possibilities for ely... Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 00:52 no message dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 00:55 I now know the identity of the following: Sheriff Investigator Lookout Vigilante Survivor (my role) I know that ely is none of them. I also know that he is not the serial killer and I also know that he is not the jailer (because he visited Kyla). So this means ely could be any of: Veteran - cannot be because action is to save self, not on someone else Bodyguard Doctor Escort Transporter - kyla didn't get message about being transported Godfather Framer Consigliere Blackmailer - message would have been given to Kyla Jester - no action What is your role? I don't think you could be any of the mafia roles because they wouldn't target you with a night action if you were. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 01:50 I wanted to keep my role hidden for now, just don't go telling what roles you know on the forum, process of elimination could pick out my role easier, Escort. You're pretty clear I think.. dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 01:52 Nope...I am not telling anyone who is what. Mind posting your Role PM? Also who did you block N1? Did you get any message related to it from Hood? When you go to do N2 let me know who you are doing just incase it turns out to be the Serial Killer. :) Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 01:59 Spoiler (click to show) on N1 I distracted paulcha, no message. ok who should I do? dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:02 Can you post the entire thread between you and Hood? Let's keep you alive for today. :) Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:12 Hoodlum said: 05 Oct 2017, 08:03 am Hi Kyla. You are the Escort and aligned with TOWN. During the NIGHT PHASE you can: Distract someone each night to block them from using their night ability. If you role block a Serial Killer you will be killed. When choosing someone to DISTRACT, type DISTRACT USERNAME. (Replace USERNAME with a players name). In this message only!!!!! There are 10 TOWN - 4 MAFIA - 2 NEUTRAL - 1 SERIAL KILLER During the DAY PHASE you can vote to LYNCH another player if you suspect they are MAFIA or the SERIAL KILLER in the related Forum How to Lynch (click to show) Kyla said: 07 Oct 2017, 02:34 am #DISTRACT paulcha dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:17 So syg posted in the forum to lynch ely. I am pretty sure that ely is mafia, and I think mad might be too (likely next target). It is strange to see syg be the first person to vote ely. I am thinking about having mad and syg investigated by the sheriff/investigator. Although I have a message out to syg right now but haven't heard back from him. If he doesn't get back with me then it could be that he is mafia and is trying to throw us off of his scent with an early lynch vote (since writing is on wall for ely). Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:20 why do you think ely's mafia? ok then, I will let you know that syg said he was going to disclose his role on either n1 or n2 tho dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:31 There is a 50:50 chance that ely is Town (see forum rationale). I got syg's role pm. I am letting him believe that I think he is ok, but the role assigned to him is misspelled (not a mistake Hood would make). It is also strange that he posted his request to Hood to be that role. Almost like he is trying too hard to convince me. His request date was only a day before the game filled up (5 days after he said he was in). I am guessing that both he and ely are mafia and he is trying to throw us off of himself if ely does flip mafia. Also, I had someone else to claim escort to me. So that would mean one of you is likely mafia...I would lean towards them and give you the benefit of the doubt... Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:38 I'm not sure on syg, nothing to go off really. that does seem like a good thing to do, especially since there are 4 mafia, might as well have some as friends and some as nemesis's. feel like Hood spellchecked though. oh damn, who claimed??? well that actually makes it better since it's not public (mafia knowing), well see who they distracted. if they distracted someone we know done there role then it's confirmed to be me as the escort [/spoiler] [spoiler=Page 2]Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:39 if he says ely, sheriff or investigator as who he distracted then we can catch him out dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 02:44 Yeah...or if I don't hear back. :) dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 13:28 So syg is not good. Had someone else claim veteran that appears to check out. Couple that with sygs typo's and extra message asking for the role makes me think he is mafia or sk. dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 15:07 Nice call on Mad. I knew he is one and likely along with Syg and Ely. Please see my latest post in the forums about who should be tomorrow's target. Here is who has not provided a Role PM to me: 1. Jimi - refuses to 2. huskers01 - not responding to my pm's 3. Vicious - refuses to 4. dwcalvert - not responding to my pm's Also I have had you, elysium5, and one other all claim to be the Escort, however only you has provided a full Role PM that includes some back and forth with Hood. What are your thoughts on these 6? Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 20:39 Lol mada made it easy for me! At least framer is gone so no fake reports. (Except godfather). He seemed to be trying a bit hard to be jester to me 1. Jimi //struck wrong with me, don't really have anything to go off tho, he told me who vigilante was (jimmy), odd thing for mafia but could be a gaining trust thing 2. huskers01 //no word 3. Vicious //has only said she is town. Feel like she is scared to trust after that GoT game, was very conservative after it (in my gane) which got her lynched too. Hard to get an opinion from that. 4. dwcalvert //no word 5. syg //tbh syg always seems suspicious to me, but I normally keep away from him. 6. Ely //claiming escort? ?? Wow, 3 claims on 1, I have talked to him but nothing as evidence of mafia. 2 mafia members wouldn't claim the same thing tho. One of the claims could be serial killer or jester, not sure. Mafia wouldn't make it 2/3 chance of taking them out dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 20:44 I agree...but the problem is ely won't participaate. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 20:49 If I was choosing people I'd be choosing from people who are chatting and looking suspicious, but we need to look out for the quiet ones too. Not sure, you think hes more likely jester or mafia? Will sheriff be on him or someone else? Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 20:50 I know the sheriff btw, you probably know that dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 21:00 Yes...they mentioned it. Ely could be town but i have no sympathy for those that are but do not help and instead hinder. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 21:04 fair enough Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 21:07 btw me asking for doc isn't too serious, just want killers to think twice before choosing me. maybe it's selfish but I want to stay alive! dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 21:23 When i get home i am going to see what roles we have verified and the best way to use them to save the most. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:13 ok sweet dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:23 So I have looked and there isn't really anything that we can do to train as I do not know who the jailer and transporter is. That being said I think you should escort any of the following. Just let me know who you choose to escort incase something happens to you. Jimi, huskers01, Vicious, dwcalvert, elysium5, sygmassacre, durandalblue dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:27 Scratch that. Jimi just claimed to be the transporter... Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:22 I'll lock in elysium5 then dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:27 Alright. Thanks. Looks like the Doc is protecting himself, the Vig doesn't want to shoot and the transporter wants to swap syg and myself. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:30 oh..but the doc only gets to protect himself once though? do you think doc will be targeted? best to be safe I guess dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:33 They told some people...that I haven't vetted (like ely). Could also be a shot by the mafia or serial killer too. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:34 ah ok then, damn Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:37 if syg is the jester then ely and whoever else is killers then though?? at least they wont kill me tonight (hopefully) dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:41 There are only 4 night kills. Godfather (right now), Vig, Serial Killer and the Jailer if they interrogate and it is a mafia. I am 90% sure you are who you say you are so you shouldn't be being investigated by either of the town people and your name was on the list to the doctor and bodyguard. Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:45 if ya have to investigate me that's fine, but would rather shoot for serial killer so we can have less night kills. oh found bodyguard too? sweet! we should be fine, we just need to play our cards right then. don't mind if you keep roles hidden, just let me know who the bad guys are :) dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 15:37 Can you send me the chat with hood about who you escorted? Kyla said: 09 Oct 2017, 16:17 Kyla said: 08 Oct 2017, 11:23 pm #distract ely[/spoiler] [spoiler=Page 3]dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 16:26 Thanks! dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 19:30 The jailer said that you were jailed (still no proof of that) and that you are the jester. Kyla said: 09 Oct 2017, 19:43 No im not, are going to shoot me? dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 19:45 What is your full role pm with Hood including his response back to you last night? Kyla said: 09 Oct 2017, 19:47 I don't fully trust you anymore dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 19:49 Then you haven't been following along in the forums. Hood has essentially said that I am on the up and up. Kyla said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:12 Ya ramble a lot dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:20 Unfortunately you have to in this complicated of a game. At least the others are all on board. :) Sorry it doesn't appear we will be killing you at all. Kyla said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:22 [b]fine. lynch me and I tell you all I know. I will haunt and kill the person I know is mafia.[/b] Kyla said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:35 dough you haven't been very trustworthy this game, I'm starting to think maybe husk or vicious is mafia. I think some others are starting to think so too Kyla said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:36 opps worded badly, I mean husk or vicious is survivor Kyla said: 10 Oct 2017, 01:33 I'm very impressed by your serial killer tactic dough dough_boy said: 10 Oct 2017, 01:38 The only way you are not jester is if both ely and vicious are lying trying to make you look like jester so we don't lynch a mafia. The problem with this is that we are only looking for 2 mafia and you would make 3. But lets say that you and vicious are mafia. That would mean that huskers and ely have doomed the town by not participating at all. Does this mean you accept my bet? ;)[/spoiler] See your quote on page 3

LOL you added that in there nicely didn't you ;)

So doughboy if you've known everybody's role fora while now then y wasn't I ever inspected by any of them. You've thrown me under the bus since day one. People who throw false accusations from the start usually are the ones with stuff to hide. You can post all the role threads you want. Those can be faked as it has been done time and time again in these games.

[quote]dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:19 I think that you should look at one of the following. When you make your night selection please send to me as well so I can keep up just incase something happens. Jimi, huskers01, Vicious, dwcalvert, elysium5 I am going to give the same list to the investigator. Again, I am the only one that knows who has claimed what...not sharing info. dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:29 Just like you verified to me Jimi claimed that he is the transporter and provided all of the communications between himself and hood...not sure if he should stay on the list or not.[/quote] [quote]dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:20 I think that you should look at one of the following. When you make your night selection please send to me as well so I can keep up just incase something happens (also so I can cross reference so you both choose someone different). Jimi, huskers01, Vicious, dwcalvert, elysium5 I am going to give the same list to the sheriff. Again, I am the only one that knows who has claimed what...not sharing info. dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:28 Just like you verified to me Jimi claimed that he is the transporter and provided all of the communications between himself and hood...not sure if he should stay on the list or not. skarni said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:41 I alrrady selectes kyla. Anyway hood will give me three roles dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:42 You can change until all night actions are in. I wouldn't want to waste it on Kyla, but your call. It could vet her. skarni said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:25 i changed and got killed dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:36 Yeah...we figured you changed it to be elysium5 who was most likely transported with syg who was the veteran that was on alert killing you. I think since you are dead you cannot talk so we can just leave it at this. :) skarni said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:41 yes, just wanted to say goodbye dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 23:56 Cool...thanks for your effort. Sorry this happened...we are still trying to get a town win. I had to have hood read your last response to make sure it was ok for the game. :) skarni said: 10 Oct 2017, 00:40 i said nothing on that message it was not known by you or written by hood on my kill message. He said on the forum that I changed and got killed.[/quote] I gave both the sheriff and investigator who I think they should look at. Turns out in 3 of the 4 people they could choose from they are mafia. Sheriff actually didn't get a night role in on time and investigator inspected ely which because ely was transported with syg meant the inspection went against syg and the inspector died.

we don't know for sure who was transported

[b]#Unlynch paulcha Lynch huskers01[/b]

[quote=Kyla]we don't know for sure who was transported[/quote] Yes we do [quote]Jimi said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:15 Sorry I had a book launch event, Great job out there Btw I am the transporter Jimi said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:18 Spoiler (click to hide) Message: Town of Token Role - Jimi From: Hoodlum To: Jimi Hoodlum said: 05 Oct 2017, 07:50 Hi Jimi. You are the Transporter and aligned with TOWN. During the NIGHT PHASE you can: Choose two people to transport at night, including yourself. Transporting two people swaps all targets against them. Your targets will know they were transported. You can not be role-blocked by Escort. When choosing to TRANSPORT players, type TRANSPORT USERNAME + USERNAME. (Replace USERNAME with a players name). In this message only!!!!! There are 10 TOWN - 4 MAFIA - 2 NEUTRAL - 1 SERIAL KILLER You are aligned with TOWN and win when all MAFIA and the SERIAL KILLER is dead. During the DAY PHASE you can vote to LYNCH another player if you suspect they are MAFIA or the SERIAL KILLER in the related Forum How to Lynch (click to show) Jimi said: 05 Oct 2017, 08:37 So we will be 3 away? Me and two other players or me and one more? Hoodlum said: 05 Oct 2017, 09:54 Nope..just me and u. the players you transport you just tell me, and then any actions that anyone does on them get's switched.. you can switch yourself with another player.. if you think the godfather is going to kill you, and you know who the other mafia is..you can transport yourself and the other mafia, so the godfather accidentally kills his own player. Jimi said: 05 Oct 2017, 10:15 Ahaaa so when I transport someone who was targeted by the mafia to be killed I will be dead Hoodlum said: 05 Oct 2017, 10:16 thats an example..u can use it in various scenarios Hoodlum said: 05 Oct 2017, 10:17 yup that can happen Jimi said: 05 Oct 2017, 10:18 Nice Jimi said: 06 Oct 2017, 10:32 When the night comes Transfer jonny + sygma Hoodlum said: 06 Oct 2017, 11:22 Jimi said: 06 Oct 2017, 13:27 Looool I mean Jimmy Hoodlum said: 06 Oct 2017, 22:56 hehe. I assumed so, but just incase, someones real name was jonny..that i didn't know Hoodlum said: 07 Oct 2017, 14:35 "Your ability failed because one of your targets was in jail!". It is now DAY 2. Jimi said: 07 Oct 2017, 16:23 Oh gosh Jimi said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:11 [b][i]#transport syg+ doughboy [/i][/b] dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 22:27 Ok. Thank you. I would rather have two mafia swapped if possible. Because if say the vig shoots syg he shoots me. Granted I will wear my vest, so maybe I will be protected. The rules don't state it only protects against one attack. dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:31 [u]I am wondering if we should try to transport two bad guys (so their efforts are wasted on each other)? For instance if we think syg and ely are mafia, do them[/u]. Another possibility could be durandalblue as they also claimed to be escort like ely...so one could be mafia, the other serial killer. Food for thought. Let me know if you change please. I won't be doing my night action until the morning so we have about 14 hours or so. Jimi said: 09 Oct 2017, 05:57 [b][u]I changed it as you said[/u][/b] [/quote] I have answers for everything you want to do to discredit me...

[quote] Jimi initially said he was going to transport Syg and myself. We decided to change and I suggested Syg and Ely OR durandalblue. He said he made the change as suggested[b] (but never told me who)[/b]. Because hood confirmed Jimi changed his targets around I can only assume it was Syg and either of those other two. [/quote] so I guess you're contridicting yourself, again

[quote]dough_boy said: 08 Oct 2017, 23:31 I am wondering if we should try to transport two bad guys (so their efforts are wasted on each other)? [b][i]For instance if we think syg and ely are mafia, do them.[/i][/b][/quote] [quote]Jimi said: 09 Oct 2017, 05:57 [i]I changed it as you said[/i][/quote] So skarni died because ely and syg were transported... [quote]skarni said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:25 i changed and got killed dough_boy said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:36 Yeah...[u]we figured you changed it to be elysium5[/u] who was most likely transported with syg who was the veteran that was on alert killing you. I think since you are dead you cannot talk so we can just leave it at this. :) skarni said: 09 Oct 2017, 20:41 [b][i][u]yes[/u][/i][/b], just wanted to say goodbye[/quote] I am not going to discuss anything further with you. Anyone else have any questions please let me know.

[i]He said he made the change as suggested (but never told me who)[/i]

'yes' meaning the transportation "i said nothing on that message it was not known by you or written by hood on my kill message. He said on the forum that I changed and got killed."

if that 'yes' meant confirming things from someone that's dead then that's against the rules so don't think skarni was doing that

[quote=Kyla]i said nothing on that message it was not known by you[/quote] Thank you for proving my point. good night.

if that 'yes' meant confirming things from someone that's dead then that's against the rules so don't think skarni was doing that