Team Matches

Not from the old team...the old players that have been around longer...lol...MuzuaneAskari and the Skarni was my #1 picks. Then your and Sygmassacre are my #2...But if The_Bishop and Wise was on a team then they would be #2...

lets say than in a world expanded increasing, if first player has 3 territories in australia + china + india has an advantatge. if the secon one is his teammate, then it is quite impossible to fight for that

anyway, after that, u need dice and good strategy, and Burning Cordoba had it all. So lets hope that they can keep the tournament in Spain.

Thorpe thanks for your support anyway... as u can see Muz and me could not take that!

Okay, once here i said something like ''same time shouldnt even be considered as teamplay,,'' ,, i would like to retract that now, in a big way.

24hr same-time teamplay has all the makings to be the best of them all!

I'm glad you like it Axobongo.

I beg to differ. Did you see what Green & Black were able to do by being online at the same time. Yes! They exploited the real time Same Time facility and took a strong territory bonus (Asia), which meant, as green was last to act he got 2 turns as black started his turn allowing green to start his next round without any intereference!

Axobongo also likes it for the very same reason... those that can be online at the same real time can exploit the Same Time moves, however, now that he has his bonus territories, he need not worry so much, but with Clarke leaving he will no longer have the ability to exploit the 2 player simultaneous move.

In my opinion, this is a complete non starter for teams. The only time it would work is if all the players were in the same time zone.

With regard for the rules, I know this a 4 team tourney test, but why should we have to wait 48 hours (in full) in all 3 games now that Clarke has decided he no longer wishes to take part?
Purposely missing turns is not allowed and even though perhaps he has a valid personal reason, surely the staff can intervene and remove his turn and speed up these very Very long games?

A few things, Aeronautic.

Regarding Clarke, it is unfortunate that he left but I think he has missed 2 turns so that shouldn't be an issue anymore.

About your complaint against teams from different timezones, maybe that should be factored in when you decide who to team with? You're not required to stick with your teammate in the next tournament if you don't want.

@lifeinpixels WOW! I sincerely hope it is just tiredness that gave rise to that response?
I don't even know where to start with this, I am flabbergasted!
DeathFromAbove are finalists in the only actual tournament here and because someone has had an idea of having a Same Time game in a probable future tournament, which has been tested by volunteers and found to have a disadvantage to team mates who are in opposite time zones or even different time zones to the timer zero point, your suggestion/solution is to choose a different team mate in my time zone for the next tournament???!!!
Even taking into account that team mates in any identical time zone that is different to the lucky swine's that happen to be awake when the timer runs out, still have a disadvantage, I really can't believe that response nor the fact that you can't see the disadvantage regardless of having the same team time zone and your response to a well analysed, thought out & factual feedback was way below the belt!

@lifeinpixels, here's a quote from your very fingertips in the Same Time tourney beta game:


Now I will leave you to think about what you said in post #456!

Aero, please, don't take offense at what I said. I don't mean anything against you personally. I'm only trying to make this as enjoyable as possible for everyone.

That being said, certainly there are both advantages and disadvantages to a same-time game. I did not say that your situation was ideal, in fact I think it is unfortunate that an issue arose which was out of your control.

However, there are also many plus sides to same time games, which may outweigh the negatives. You had difficulties taking your turn right after your teammate's, but in games with more than 2 teams it may also be impossible for teams to play back to back. That is why we are still in the testing phases, so that we can try to find out which modes work best.

Once we find a mode for the next tournament, it will probably be advantageous to work through the nuances of that mode to increase your chances of winning. That is what I meant by post 456 - not that we like having to split you up, but when the positives outweigh the negatives, sometimes it may be necessary.

There are two options right now for team games that are not 2v2:
If a teamgame is same time, ppl in the same timezone will have a huge and unfair advantage.
If a teamgame is not same time, ppl that get their turns next to each other have a huge and unfair advantage over the ppl that don't.


So yeah, I completely agree with Aero.
And I also completely agree with Pixels.

Stupid eh?



I hope to implement team games properly one day, but untill then anything that is not 2v2 will be unfair.

Having said that, 2v2 is a bit unfair right now as well, just not as obvious.

But my thinking so far is that, while the unfairness of a consecutive game is unavoidable, the problem can be addressed with same time games. Of course it's far from optimal, but I'm just wondering whether it's better just to ask players to consider time-zones when choosing a partner.

I enjoyed the same time game. I dont think Life and myself are in the same time zone; but everyone has the ability to wait for their team mate to be online to play, or do as i do and look to make sure the other teams are not online. you can also play to make moves at certain times. eg game clock for that turn ends in approximately 3 hours, plan to come back online before then to get a jump on teh game play. Teams coudl also establish email/facebook/text msg to notify each other. alot more possiblities. Huge supporter for same time game play in the team setting. Furthermore playing back to back and/or first is not always the start choice.

Ex: in teh game life won: he wanted me to play first and turn in to help eliminate a player, I did not because i did not feel the need to get up in the middle of teh night to play that turn. My thoughts were it was to soon to make a move for a players cards; however the other teams did just that and took me out... which sucks but it also gave life a big advantage because his card value was very high and only me and him where aware he could turn in with 3 cards. Plus Life is a very skilled player and proceeded to dominate the game (thanks for half the points too... you earned them all though).

LOL i ROCK at same time games, I just defeated lifeinpixels in one game just earlier today.

Again I say, it wouldn't matter if team mates are in the same time zone, if the last player/team to act is in a different time zone many hours apart, that puts the timer zero point out of touch to the other team!

My point on the timer is, as you probably all know, one of the benefits of exploiting same time games is to snatch a full territory for the bonus, just before the timer finishes and then have your team mate start his next round turn immediately to allow you to start your next round turn, whereupon you now have the bonus troops to either reinforce or attack other players.... all this while the other players may be fast asleep as it is 4am in their country!

I also don't like the 4 team Same Time tourney on World Expanded as there can be too much divide between territories leaving some players clear of constant attack and other in the midst of it! This allows certain players to sit back and grow whilst strategising and let the poor souls who are surrounded by the team that snatched bonuses due to their good luck time zone, do all the work to stop the overwhelming growth and expansion.
If they did nothing they would be swallowed up and if they try to break them down they allow another team to outgrow them and the team they are trying to defend against. Therefore, it allows far more advantages to some and disadvantages to others, than a smaller map, but I doubt there would be much room for 8 players on a smaller map!!!

With the benefit of hindsight, Syg and I should have left Green & Black grow to huge proportions quickly and swallow us up, instead of attacking them to stop domination and they would have completely dominated the board in a few turns. This would have proved the time zone advantage, as they were one of the teams that were able to exploit it! Unfortunately some players only see their small part of the game due to many turns happening while they are away from the game and things like this don't really get taken into account for the game viability!

Thank you for your patience everyone. The final matches are finally ready to begin! As a reminder, the winners from last round will compete for 1st and 2nd place, and and the two losers will compete in a game for 3rd and 4th.

Competing for first and second, we have Burning Cordoba and Death from Above playing in game 242426!

Competing for third and fourth, we have Blood 'n Guts and Ay Carmela playing in game 242427!

Make sure you cheer for your favorites!