Romeo & Juliet Mafia - Game Thread

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[quote][b][user]Virtuosity98[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]22 Feb 2021, 23:07[/size] You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Silver mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. [hr][/quote]

[b]Here is my full PM with Virtuosity: [/b]I am not going to lie. I am the silver mask. I did kill Rockbert. That was the plan for a long time and that’s why i didn’t mind giving him the shop. I know Elysium claims i am not his house. But i don’t understand this result. Either Elysium is the remaining mafia and he is lying, or something odd happened. Maybe i got framed (if there is a framer, i am a likely target so it's possible). If you are really Montague, and that’s what i tried to make you say for hours now in vain, you should take the safe exit until we figure out what happened with that Elysium report, and lynch a proven Capulet like Hoodlum. You don’t risk anything. I don’t know who among you is the remaining mafia: maybe it’s even marion. But lynching Hoodlum is a safe win. Then i will kill Mhdaglund at night with the poison i just bought, and we will have till the end to find who the last wolf is. You can even lynch me tomorrow, as long as you find that remaining mafia after. But if you lynch me today and we loose the game, don’t come play mafia with me again as i will consider we are not playing in the same level. I mean this seriously. [spoiler]Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:05 Anaxagore You are Abram, servant of the House of Montague (Town). You are very poor, but you are proud to say that you belong to the House of Montague. You are pragmatic, and know how to look after yourself. You start with 0 coins. You earn 1 coin at the end of every afternoon phase. You gain all items and money left at the houses of players who are nightkilled. You can survive being nightkilled once. Win clause: Eliminate the House of Escalus (mafia) and all hostile neutrals, while outnumbering the House of Capulet. Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:10 Remember, you may only communicate with other players about the game in the designated forum thread. This means no PMs, no conversations in real life. Your co-operation will make the game as fun as possible. If you have questions regarding any part of the game, I will be happy to answer them! It helps if you number the questions for reference :) Good luck! :) Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:50 Thanks man. Can you just answer these questions please? Is it normal i don't have a mask? A Watchman is a camera? Can someone douse a house and someone else ignit it the same night? If someone is homeless, he can have only one fake vote on him? If you buy something from someone who sells it? Is it less expensive as the person gets to see my mask and as i have to wait one day to get it? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:56 lol, forgot about the masks!!!!! I will send out mask colours lol, give me a few mins though ^^ Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 17:21 You are wearing a Silver mask. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 17:39 last question: • #CHECK HOUSES: check all houses for occupants, Watchmen, Oil, etc. Does this mean if i #check houses, i get to be aware of everything i see in everyone's house? And do i get to be seen? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 17:52 1. Is it normal i don't have a mask? 2. A Watchman is a camera? 3. Can someone douse a house and someone else ignit it the same night? 4. If someone is homeless, he can have only one fake vote on him? 5. If you buy something from someone who sells it? Is it less expensive as the person gets to see my mask and as i have to wait one day to get it? 6. Does this mean if i #check houses, i get to be aware of everything i see in everyone's house? And do i get to be seen? Thanks for your patience :) 1. Thanks for the reminder :) 2. A watchman is basically the CCTV from last game, except it reports all masks seen at the house rather than just a random mask colour. 3. Haven't finalised the order of night actions yet. But I think the #IGNITE will happen before the #OIL (because it gives the player at least the chance to notice their house is oiled (if they #CHECK HOUSES). 4. Illegal Votes are different this game. They can only be bought in the morning, ONE per day, and must be used the same day. 5. No, it is sold at market price. Otherwise this could be exploited. The person will see your mask, yes, so keep this in mind. Every transaction in this game will update when the phase ends. Not real-time (like fake votes last game). So actually receiving the item in the next phase is simply normal. 6. #CHECK HOUSES will tell you things like: "Someone was in Anaxagore's house/Anaxagore's house was empty", "There was a break-in at Anaxagore's house", "There was a Watchman at Anaxagore's house", "Anaxagore's house smells strongly of Oil" ...for each house. Good questions. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:34 And is my mask seen if i check all houses? i guess not as it's less cool than the breaking in/oiling but don't know. Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:37 7. People inside houses will not see your mask, but any Watchmen at any house will report seeing your mask at that house. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:54 Alright. And is it 2 night actions maximum? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:55 Yes. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 20:40 I have to pay 1 coin to run for the election? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 21:41 Yes. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 16:08 #STAY HOME (not sure i need to tell you this or it's implicit if i say nothing). Your Shop Keeper is lucky you like him ;) Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 16:19 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 16:43 #STAY HOME is default if no actions are submitted. Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 18:35 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0 Inventory: - Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 14th highest. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 19:33 14th equal with the 15th or 14th? Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 20:22 There could be ties. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 22:52 Alright :) I was trying to see if the Shop Owner was at -1 haha. I think it's a good idea to make this game thread only for town. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 22:53 Another question that comes to my mind. Will i get notified if i "loose my first life"? Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 23:04 Yeah I think this game is better without PMs. Split town without PMs is monstrous! :D Yes, you will be notified. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 23:10 The next step is no thread activity at night :) They do this on Mafia Universe and the countdown before the end of the day is usually fun. Virtuosity98 said: 01 Feb 2021, 19:51 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2 Inventory: - Anaxagore said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:40 Alright. Will we be aware if someone buys a new mask color? Virtuosity98 said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:42 No. Only the Shopkeeper would be told which Extra Mask variant was sold if someone bought one. Anaxagore said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:44 Another question. Let's say if Hoodlum stays home one night, if i come to break in and steal his stuff, will he get the same report as if i come to oil his home? or will he knows the difference. Anaxagore said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:44 Hmm ok. So that means if i buy a fake mask, i'm almost unkillable. Virtuosity98 said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:51 Hmmm. Maybe I will cross out mask variants that have been bought. I'll confirm this in the forum if I decide it's best for the game. Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 13:35 Can you answer me the other question please? "Let's say if Hoodlum stays home one night, if i come to break in and steal his stuff, will he get the same report as if i come to oil his home? or will he knows the difference." Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 13:38 And is there a way destroy the watchman? Virtuosity98 said: 02 Feb 2021, 13:55 Sorry, didn't notice the other question. In your scenario Hoodlum would be told: "Someone wearing a Silver mask was at your house last night." He wouldn't know if you were attempting a break-in, or if you #OILED his house. Yes: Post#1 • Sword: 7 coins #KILL [mask colour] if they are outside (mafia action only). #STEAL from [mask colour] if they are outside. Protects yourself from other Sword and Dagger users (automatic if needed). #KILL WATCHMAN at [player name’s] house. • Dagger: 2 coins #KILL [mask colour] if they are outside (mafia action only). #STEAL from [mask colour] if they are outside. Protects yourself from other Dagger users (automatic if needed). #KILL WATCHMAN at [player name’s] house. Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 15:37 ah yes. Thanks for the details :) Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 19:05 If i install a watchman somewhere, nobody will know except me, right? Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 19:53 PS: I think i've noted a few bugs. 1) Since to #steal someone outside is as hard as #stabbing this person, a player should always take all his money on him. Which means breaking in is probably a bad strategy. 2) The poison being so expensive + given it has to be combined with wine, it's gona be really hard for townies from different families to kill each other. Virtuosity98 said: 02 Feb 2021, 20:31 1. It's not quite this simple. But yes, your point is quite a good one :) 2. Deliberately so. Virtuosity98 said: 02 Feb 2021, 21:12 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3 Inventory: - Anaxagore said: 03 Feb 2021, 00:57 #run capitalist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 01:13 Noted. Anaxagore said: 03 Feb 2021, 01:13 you should get some sleep haha Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 01:21 Hahaha I'm not tired :) I had a lie in this morning, but I am getting up in 6hrs so maybe it would be best to sleep ^^ Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 22:16 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2 Inventory: - Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 15th highest. N1 House Empty? Watchmen Break-in? Oil? Other? AlexCheckMate N 0 N N N Mdhaglund Y 0 N N N Anaxagore Y 1 N N N elysium5 Y 0 N N N Ready4war N 0 N N N Hoodlum Y 0 N N N Rockbert N 0 N N N Tennesseelogman Y 0 N N N Madagascarter Y 0 N N N Bluegoetz N 0 N N N remlburc N 0 N N N 2ofclubs Y 0 N N N marion N 0 N N N rheisel N 0 N N N milnejw24 Y 0 Y N N Anaxagore said: 03 Feb 2021, 23:00 If the watchman was put during last night, should it be there when i checked houses? Or can it only have been placed there before the night? meaning it has necessarily seen me. Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 23:04 I need to put the Chronology of Night Actions in Post#1. I haven't actually finalised it yet. But assigning a Watchman happens before #CHECK HOUSES. So the Watchman could have been placed last night as well as the night before. In Post#1 is an example of what a Watchman report looks like. Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 13:01 Yes a chronology would be nice. Also, if i succeed in stealing someone outside, do i get his money + his items? Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 13:15 I'll get it done before the end of the phase. Yes. Everything they're carrying (except their mask). Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 19:27 is socialism is adopted, #buy me a dagger Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 19:28 just before the deadline Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 20:11 oh and i don't remember, do i need to vote for the future mayor to gain 1 coin, or just to vote? Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 22:08 You need to decide. Are you buying the Dagger? Any vote earns a coin. Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 22:09 Yes i buy the dagger. Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 22:15 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 23:43 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1 Inventory: Dagger You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 05 Feb 2021, 13:32 wow socialism gave me 0 coins this round... :( even with an inactive?? Anaxagore said: 05 Feb 2021, 16:26 oh sorry i thought it was 1 coin per 2 items in socialism, but i see it's 1 coin per item Virtuosity98 said: 05 Feb 2021, 22:26 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2 Inventory: Dagger Anaxagore said: 05 Feb 2021, 22:35 #stay home Virtuosity98 said: 05 Feb 2021, 22:40 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 06 Feb 2021, 23:02 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2 Inventory: Dagger Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 12th highest. Anaxagore said: 06 Feb 2021, 23:14 #buy wine Virtuosity98 said: 06 Feb 2021, 23:15 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 08 Feb 2021, 00:14 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2 Inventory: Dagger, Wine You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 08 Feb 2021, 23:41 #run socialist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 08 Feb 2021, 23:47 Wait, can you send these again after I give the account balance (so I don't miss it at end of night)? Thanks :) Balances coming out now. Virtuosity98 said: 08 Feb 2021, 23:49 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3 Inventory: Dagger, Wine Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 00:13 #run socialist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 09 Feb 2021, 00:14 Thanks :) Noted. Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 20:38 Actually i will just #stay home Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 20:40 #buy Pulcinella mask Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 20:44 i realise i can't buy at night, so i'll buy in the morning Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 21:32 actually #run socialist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 09 Feb 2021, 22:31 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 10 Feb 2021, 01:00 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1 Inventory: Wine Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 13th highest. Someone wearing an Olive mask stole 1 coin and a Dagger from you. While #CHECKING HOUSES, you saw that: House Empty? Watchmen Break-in? Oil? Other? AlexCheckMate N 0 N N N Mdhaglund N 0 N N N Anaxagore Y 1 N N N elysium5 Y 0 N N N Ready4war N 2 N N N Hoodlum Y 0 N N N Rockbert Y 0 N N N Tennesseelogman N 0 N N N Madagascarter N 0 N N N Bluegoetz N 1 N N N remlburc N 0 N N N 2ofclubs N 0 N N N marion N 0 N N N rheisel Y 1 N N N milnejw24 N 0 N N N Anaxagore said: 10 Feb 2021, 01:34 not sure if it's Hood or elysium yet, but i'm gona have my revenge ;) Anaxagore said: 10 Feb 2021, 21:53 if socialism is implemented, buy me some paint Virtuosity98 said: 10 Feb 2021, 21:59 You have to say now, before the election result. Anaxagore said: 10 Feb 2021, 22:00 no i don't buy Virtuosity98 said: 11 Feb 2021, 02:18 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2 Inventory: Wine Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 00:42 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13 Inventory: Wine Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 00:44 #stay home Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 00:50 Noted. Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 13:53 Capulet: Elysium 2ofclubs Hoodlum Ready4war Montague: Anaxagore Madagascarter Rockbert milnejw24 Mafia: marion rheisel Mdhaglund Neutrals: Alex Blue Tenesse Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 13:53 i'm tempted to buy poison but Alex would know hmm Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:40 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13 Inventory: Wine Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 6th highest. You were poisoned last night, but you were able to survive being nightkilled, just this once. Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:56 What?? But i stayed home. Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:57 What mask color was it? if is survived i should know Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:58 • Wine: 2 coins, Single Use #DISTRACT [player name] – cancel that player’s night actions for that night (the player still leaves their house if they had planned to). That player will not be able to use a Sword, Dagger, or Gauntlet to defend themself from kills, steals, or any other night actions. • Poison: 13 coins, Single Use #POISON [player name]. Kills that player if Wine was used on them during that night. Retained if not applicable. Wine works even if players #STAY HOME. Poison works if Wine was used on that player. Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:59 Nope. You just found some poisoned wine at your house, and drank it. I guess I forgot to send you the Wine feedback, gimme a sec. Virtuosity98 said: 13 Feb 2021, 00:00 N4 feedback There was some Wine on your doorstep when you arrived at home last night. Against your better judgement, you drank the whole bottle. Any night actions you submitted were cancelled. Anaxagore said: 13 Feb 2021, 00:12 #buy poison let the war begins Virtuosity98 said: 13 Feb 2021, 00:29 Noted. Anaxagore said: 13 Feb 2021, 19:50 Can I also be #wine and #sword killed if I stay home? Virtuosity98 said: 13 Feb 2021, 20:43 No. Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:15 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0 Inventory: Wine, Poison You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:20 I voted for mada. You forgot me one coin. Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:20 :) Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:39 Post#647 Some people seem to be confused about their account balance. When calculating account balance changes, first purchases are accounted for, then sales, then the extra coin for voting. Then the economic regime is implemented. In socialism, everyone's balances get shared equally. After which you get -1 per item in your inventory. That should explain how your balance changed from the penultimate to the last number in your account balance history. Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:47 Hmm OK. I don't really understand why I got coins before as it should have been redistributed. But I trust your logic. Just lazy to do the maths :) Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 23:46 #stay home Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 23:53 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 23:54 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 16 Feb 2021, 00:22 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 5th highest. Anaxagore said: 16 Feb 2021, 00:42 #buy paint Anaxagore said: 16 Feb 2021, 00:56 Is it possible to have the chronology of events at night? Virtuosity98 said: 16 Feb 2021, 01:17 Noted. Oh yes, I keep forgetting........ But I can't do it right now :( Virtuosity98 said: 16 Feb 2021, 23:33 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 00:19 If someone gets night killed at home, I inherit his mask right? Or just his extra masks kept at home? Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 09:24 Just extra masks, the original mask is removed from the game. Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:18 wait, i need to go out to use paint? Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:19 Yes. You're painting a wall in the piazza or something... Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:21 if my mask was not looked for, i would but i have no other choice than #stay home for now Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:22 i need to find an extra mask, hope mafia manages one kill Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:22 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 23:12 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint Virtuosity98 said: 18 Feb 2021, 23:34 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 4th highest. Anaxagore said: 19 Feb 2021, 16:28 #buy fake pm Virtuosity98 said: 19 Feb 2021, 19:56 Disguises are sold out. Anaxagore said: 19 Feb 2021, 20:03 OK I don't mind. I don't buy anything. I also get rid of the paint Virtuosity98 said: 19 Feb 2021, 20:49 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 20 Feb 2021, 00:30 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint Anaxagore said: 20 Feb 2021, 08:08 If i get #wined, do i have time to #wine +#poison someone? Virtuosity98 said: 20 Feb 2021, 10:21 Yes. Anaxagore said: 20 Feb 2021, 22:13 #wine and #poison Rockbert (I would have prefered to wait but I'm likely getting lynched tomorrow) Virtuosity98 said: 20 Feb 2021, 23:21 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:23 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 13 Inventory: Paint, Gauntlet, Sword, Watchman, Dagger. Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 1st highest. You are now the Shopkeeper. Post#1 Shopkeeper (assigned at the start of the game): • Gains 50% of all money spent by players in the Shop (capped at 10 coins per day). • Records what every masked player buys. • Buyers see the Shopkeeper’s mask. • Still pays full price for store items. • If killed, the Shop goes to the killer. • If lynched, the Shop goes to the Lord of Verona. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:26 #buy poison Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:27 Noted. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:28 If one of my fellow Montague had run as I said, the game was won... Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 03:09 I don't have any watchman report? Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 03:12 The Watchman you received was unassigned. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 08:43 Is this possible for an investigation to go wrong? Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 08:48 I can neither confirm nor deny. Depends on people's Role PMs. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 22:05 I don't know what the hell is going on with Elysium but this is really weird[/spoiler]

Anaxagore wrote: [quote]I don’t know who among you is the remaining mafia: [b]maybe it’s even marion[/b].[/quote] Not possible. Virt said marion was inactive in the game so there is no way marion could puppet milnejw24 into breaking into my house.

Someone was puppeting milnejw24

Anaxagore "31 Jan 2021, 22:53 Another question that comes to my mind. Will i get notified if i "loose my first life"? Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 23:04 Yeah I think this game is better without PMs. Split town without PMs is monstrous! :D Yes, you will be notified." [b] You can survive being nightkilled once. Was this used when you were 1st poison?[/b] You didn't go to the beach? Did you edit spoiler and hoping to get Montagues to un-lynch you given they out number Cap according to you?

U are next level if U survive this lynch. Lol

rheisel, I think by process of elimination this game comes down to you and your House.

[spoiler][quote=Anaxagore][b]Here is my full PM with Virtuosity: [/b]I am not going to lie. I am the silver mask. I did kill Rockbert. That was the plan for a long time and that’s why i didn’t mind giving him the shop. I know Elysium claims i am not his house. But i don’t understand this result. Either Elysium is the remaining mafia and he is lying, or something odd happened. Maybe i got framed (if there is a framer, i am a likely target so it's possible). If you are really Montague, and that’s what i tried to make you say for hours now in vain, you should take the safe exit until we figure out what happened with that Elysium report, and lynch a proven Capulet like Hoodlum. You don’t risk anything. I don’t know who among you is the remaining mafia: maybe it’s even marion. But lynching Hoodlum is a safe win. Then i will kill Mhdaglund at night with the poison i just bought, and we will have till the end to find who the last wolf is. You can even lynch me tomorrow, as long as you find that remaining mafia after. But if you lynch me today and we loose the game, don’t come play mafia with me again as i will consider we are not playing in the same level. I mean this seriously. [spoiler]Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:05 Anaxagore You are Abram, servant of the House of Montague (Town). You are very poor, but you are proud to say that you belong to the House of Montague. You are pragmatic, and know how to look after yourself. You start with 0 coins. You earn 1 coin at the end of every afternoon phase. You gain all items and money left at the houses of players who are nightkilled. You can survive being nightkilled once. Win clause: Eliminate the House of Escalus (mafia) and all hostile neutrals, while outnumbering the House of Capulet. Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:10 Remember, you may only communicate with other players about the game in the designated forum thread. This means no PMs, no conversations in real life. Your co-operation will make the game as fun as possible. If you have questions regarding any part of the game, I will be happy to answer them! It helps if you number the questions for reference :) Good luck! :) Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:50 Thanks man. Can you just answer these questions please? Is it normal i don't have a mask? A Watchman is a camera? Can someone douse a house and someone else ignit it the same night? If someone is homeless, he can have only one fake vote on him? If you buy something from someone who sells it? Is it less expensive as the person gets to see my mask and as i have to wait one day to get it? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 16:56 lol, forgot about the masks!!!!! I will send out mask colours lol, give me a few mins though ^^ Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 17:21 You are wearing a Silver mask. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 17:39 last question: • #CHECK HOUSES: check all houses for occupants, Watchmen, Oil, etc. Does this mean if i #check houses, i get to be aware of everything i see in everyone's house? And do i get to be seen? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 17:52 1. Is it normal i don't have a mask? 2. A Watchman is a camera? 3. Can someone douse a house and someone else ignit it the same night? 4. If someone is homeless, he can have only one fake vote on him? 5. If you buy something from someone who sells it? Is it less expensive as the person gets to see my mask and as i have to wait one day to get it? 6. Does this mean if i #check houses, i get to be aware of everything i see in everyone's house? And do i get to be seen? Thanks for your patience :) 1. Thanks for the reminder :) 2. A watchman is basically the CCTV from last game, except it reports all masks seen at the house rather than just a random mask colour. 3. Haven't finalised the order of night actions yet. But I think the #IGNITE will happen before the #OIL (because it gives the player at least the chance to notice their house is oiled (if they #CHECK HOUSES). 4. Illegal Votes are different this game. They can only be bought in the morning, ONE per day, and must be used the same day. 5. No, it is sold at market price. Otherwise this could be exploited. The person will see your mask, yes, so keep this in mind. Every transaction in this game will update when the phase ends. Not real-time (like fake votes last game). So actually receiving the item in the next phase is simply normal. 6. #CHECK HOUSES will tell you things like: "Someone was in Anaxagore's house/Anaxagore's house was empty", "There was a break-in at Anaxagore's house", "There was a Watchman at Anaxagore's house", "Anaxagore's house smells strongly of Oil" ...for each house. Good questions. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:34 And is my mask seen if i check all houses? i guess not as it's less cool than the breaking in/oiling but don't know. Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:37 7. People inside houses will not see your mask, but any Watchmen at any house will report seeing your mask at that house. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:54 Alright. And is it 2 night actions maximum? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 18:55 Yes. Anaxagore said: 30 Jan 2021, 20:40 I have to pay 1 coin to run for the election? Virtuosity98 said: 30 Jan 2021, 21:41 Yes. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 16:08 #STAY HOME (not sure i need to tell you this or it's implicit if i say nothing). Your Shop Keeper is lucky you like him ;) Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 16:19 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 16:43 #STAY HOME is default if no actions are submitted. Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 18:35 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0 Inventory: - Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 14th highest. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 19:33 14th equal with the 15th or 14th? Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 20:22 There could be ties. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 22:52 Alright :) I was trying to see if the Shop Owner was at -1 haha. I think it's a good idea to make this game thread only for town. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 22:53 Another question that comes to my mind. Will i get notified if i "loose my first life"? Virtuosity98 said: 31 Jan 2021, 23:04 Yeah I think this game is better without PMs. Split town without PMs is monstrous! :D Yes, you will be notified. Anaxagore said: 31 Jan 2021, 23:10 The next step is no thread activity at night :) They do this on Mafia Universe and the countdown before the end of the day is usually fun. Virtuosity98 said: 01 Feb 2021, 19:51 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2 Inventory: - Anaxagore said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:40 Alright. Will we be aware if someone buys a new mask color? Virtuosity98 said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:42 No. Only the Shopkeeper would be told which Extra Mask variant was sold if someone bought one. Anaxagore said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:44 Another question. Let's say if Hoodlum stays home one night, if i come to break in and steal his stuff, will he get the same report as if i come to oil his home? or will he knows the difference. Anaxagore said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:44 Hmm ok. So that means if i buy a fake mask, i'm almost unkillable. Virtuosity98 said: 01 Feb 2021, 20:51 Hmmm. Maybe I will cross out mask variants that have been bought. I'll confirm this in the forum if I decide it's best for the game. Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 13:35 Can you answer me the other question please? "Let's say if Hoodlum stays home one night, if i come to break in and steal his stuff, will he get the same report as if i come to oil his home? or will he knows the difference." Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 13:38 And is there a way destroy the watchman? Virtuosity98 said: 02 Feb 2021, 13:55 Sorry, didn't notice the other question. In your scenario Hoodlum would be told: "Someone wearing a Silver mask was at your house last night." He wouldn't know if you were attempting a break-in, or if you #OILED his house. Yes: Post#1 • Sword: 7 coins #KILL [mask colour] if they are outside (mafia action only). #STEAL from [mask colour] if they are outside. Protects yourself from other Sword and Dagger users (automatic if needed). #KILL WATCHMAN at [player name’s] house. • Dagger: 2 coins #KILL [mask colour] if they are outside (mafia action only). #STEAL from [mask colour] if they are outside. Protects yourself from other Dagger users (automatic if needed). #KILL WATCHMAN at [player name’s] house. Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 15:37 ah yes. Thanks for the details :) Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 19:05 If i install a watchman somewhere, nobody will know except me, right? Anaxagore said: 02 Feb 2021, 19:53 PS: I think i've noted a few bugs. 1) Since to #steal someone outside is as hard as #stabbing this person, a player should always take all his money on him. Which means breaking in is probably a bad strategy. 2) The poison being so expensive + given it has to be combined with wine, it's gona be really hard for townies from different families to kill each other. Virtuosity98 said: 02 Feb 2021, 20:31 1. It's not quite this simple. But yes, your point is quite a good one :) 2. Deliberately so. Virtuosity98 said: 02 Feb 2021, 21:12 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3 Inventory: - Anaxagore said: 03 Feb 2021, 00:57 #run capitalist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 01:13 Noted. Anaxagore said: 03 Feb 2021, 01:13 you should get some sleep haha Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 01:21 Hahaha I'm not tired :) I had a lie in this morning, but I am getting up in 6hrs so maybe it would be best to sleep ^^ Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 22:16 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2 Inventory: - Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 15th highest. N1 House Empty? Watchmen Break-in? Oil? Other? AlexCheckMate N 0 N N N Mdhaglund Y 0 N N N Anaxagore Y 1 N N N elysium5 Y 0 N N N Ready4war N 0 N N N Hoodlum Y 0 N N N Rockbert N 0 N N N Tennesseelogman Y 0 N N N Madagascarter Y 0 N N N Bluegoetz N 0 N N N remlburc N 0 N N N 2ofclubs Y 0 N N N marion N 0 N N N rheisel N 0 N N N milnejw24 Y 0 Y N N Anaxagore said: 03 Feb 2021, 23:00 If the watchman was put during last night, should it be there when i checked houses? Or can it only have been placed there before the night? meaning it has necessarily seen me. Virtuosity98 said: 03 Feb 2021, 23:04 I need to put the Chronology of Night Actions in Post#1. I haven't actually finalised it yet. But assigning a Watchman happens before #CHECK HOUSES. So the Watchman could have been placed last night as well as the night before. In Post#1 is an example of what a Watchman report looks like. Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 13:01 Yes a chronology would be nice. Also, if i succeed in stealing someone outside, do i get his money + his items? Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 13:15 I'll get it done before the end of the phase. Yes. Everything they're carrying (except their mask). Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 19:27 is socialism is adopted, #buy me a dagger Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 19:28 just before the deadline Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 20:11 oh and i don't remember, do i need to vote for the future mayor to gain 1 coin, or just to vote? Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 22:08 You need to decide. Are you buying the Dagger? Any vote earns a coin. Anaxagore said: 04 Feb 2021, 22:09 Yes i buy the dagger. Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 22:15 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 04 Feb 2021, 23:43 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1 Inventory: Dagger You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 05 Feb 2021, 13:32 wow socialism gave me 0 coins this round... :( even with an inactive?? Anaxagore said: 05 Feb 2021, 16:26 oh sorry i thought it was 1 coin per 2 items in socialism, but i see it's 1 coin per item Virtuosity98 said: 05 Feb 2021, 22:26 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2 Inventory: Dagger Anaxagore said: 05 Feb 2021, 22:35 #stay home Virtuosity98 said: 05 Feb 2021, 22:40 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 06 Feb 2021, 23:02 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2 Inventory: Dagger Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 12th highest. Anaxagore said: 06 Feb 2021, 23:14 #buy wine Virtuosity98 said: 06 Feb 2021, 23:15 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 08 Feb 2021, 00:14 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2 Inventory: Dagger, Wine You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 08 Feb 2021, 23:41 #run socialist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 08 Feb 2021, 23:47 Wait, can you send these again after I give the account balance (so I don't miss it at end of night)? Thanks :) Balances coming out now. Virtuosity98 said: 08 Feb 2021, 23:49 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3 Inventory: Dagger, Wine Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 00:13 #run socialist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 09 Feb 2021, 00:14 Thanks :) Noted. Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 20:38 Actually i will just #stay home Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 20:40 #buy Pulcinella mask Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 20:44 i realise i can't buy at night, so i'll buy in the morning Anaxagore said: 09 Feb 2021, 21:32 actually #run socialist #check houses Virtuosity98 said: 09 Feb 2021, 22:31 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 10 Feb 2021, 01:00 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1 Inventory: Wine Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 13th highest. Someone wearing an Olive mask stole 1 coin and a Dagger from you. While #CHECKING HOUSES, you saw that: House Empty? Watchmen Break-in? Oil? Other? AlexCheckMate N 0 N N N Mdhaglund N 0 N N N Anaxagore Y 1 N N N elysium5 Y 0 N N N Ready4war N 2 N N N Hoodlum Y 0 N N N Rockbert Y 0 N N N Tennesseelogman N 0 N N N Madagascarter N 0 N N N Bluegoetz N 1 N N N remlburc N 0 N N N 2ofclubs N 0 N N N marion N 0 N N N rheisel Y 1 N N N milnejw24 N 0 N N N Anaxagore said: 10 Feb 2021, 01:34 not sure if it's Hood or elysium yet, but i'm gona have my revenge ;) Anaxagore said: 10 Feb 2021, 21:53 if socialism is implemented, buy me some paint Virtuosity98 said: 10 Feb 2021, 21:59 You have to say now, before the election result. Anaxagore said: 10 Feb 2021, 22:00 no i don't buy Virtuosity98 said: 11 Feb 2021, 02:18 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2 Inventory: Wine Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 00:42 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13 Inventory: Wine Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 00:44 #stay home Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 00:50 Noted. Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 13:53 Capulet: Elysium 2ofclubs Hoodlum Ready4war Montague: Anaxagore Madagascarter Rockbert milnejw24 Mafia: marion rheisel Mdhaglund Neutrals: Alex Blue Tenesse Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 13:53 i'm tempted to buy poison but Alex would know hmm Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:40 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13 Inventory: Wine Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 6th highest. You were poisoned last night, but you were able to survive being nightkilled, just this once. Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:56 What?? But i stayed home. Anaxagore said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:57 What mask color was it? if is survived i should know Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:58 • Wine: 2 coins, Single Use #DISTRACT [player name] – cancel that player’s night actions for that night (the player still leaves their house if they had planned to). That player will not be able to use a Sword, Dagger, or Gauntlet to defend themself from kills, steals, or any other night actions. • Poison: 13 coins, Single Use #POISON [player name]. Kills that player if Wine was used on them during that night. Retained if not applicable. Wine works even if players #STAY HOME. Poison works if Wine was used on that player. Virtuosity98 said: 12 Feb 2021, 23:59 Nope. You just found some poisoned wine at your house, and drank it. I guess I forgot to send you the Wine feedback, gimme a sec. Virtuosity98 said: 13 Feb 2021, 00:00 N4 feedback There was some Wine on your doorstep when you arrived at home last night. Against your better judgement, you drank the whole bottle. Any night actions you submitted were cancelled. Anaxagore said: 13 Feb 2021, 00:12 #buy poison let the war begins Virtuosity98 said: 13 Feb 2021, 00:29 Noted. Anaxagore said: 13 Feb 2021, 19:50 Can I also be #wine and #sword killed if I stay home? Virtuosity98 said: 13 Feb 2021, 20:43 No. Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:15 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0 Inventory: Wine, Poison You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:20 I voted for mada. You forgot me one coin. Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:20 :) Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:39 Post#647 Some people seem to be confused about their account balance. When calculating account balance changes, first purchases are accounted for, then sales, then the extra coin for voting. Then the economic regime is implemented. In socialism, everyone's balances get shared equally. After which you get -1 per item in your inventory. That should explain how your balance changed from the penultimate to the last number in your account balance history. Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 00:47 Hmm OK. I don't really understand why I got coins before as it should have been redistributed. But I trust your logic. Just lazy to do the maths :) Anaxagore said: 14 Feb 2021, 23:46 #stay home Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 23:53 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison Virtuosity98 said: 14 Feb 2021, 23:54 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 16 Feb 2021, 00:22 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 5th highest. Anaxagore said: 16 Feb 2021, 00:42 #buy paint Anaxagore said: 16 Feb 2021, 00:56 Is it possible to have the chronology of events at night? Virtuosity98 said: 16 Feb 2021, 01:17 Noted. Oh yes, I keep forgetting........ But I can't do it right now :( Virtuosity98 said: 16 Feb 2021, 23:33 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint You saw that the Shopkeeper was wearing a Beige mask. The Shopkeeper also saw your mask. Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 00:19 If someone gets night killed at home, I inherit his mask right? Or just his extra masks kept at home? Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 09:24 Just extra masks, the original mask is removed from the game. Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:18 wait, i need to go out to use paint? Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:19 Yes. You're painting a wall in the piazza or something... Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:21 if my mask was not looked for, i would but i have no other choice than #stay home for now Anaxagore said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:22 i need to find an extra mask, hope mafia manages one kill Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 22:22 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 17 Feb 2021, 23:12 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint Virtuosity98 said: 18 Feb 2021, 23:34 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 4th highest. Anaxagore said: 19 Feb 2021, 16:28 #buy fake pm Virtuosity98 said: 19 Feb 2021, 19:56 Disguises are sold out. Anaxagore said: 19 Feb 2021, 20:03 OK I don't mind. I don't buy anything. I also get rid of the paint Virtuosity98 said: 19 Feb 2021, 20:49 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 20 Feb 2021, 00:30 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0 Inventory: Wine, Poison, Paint Anaxagore said: 20 Feb 2021, 08:08 If i get #wined, do i have time to #wine +#poison someone? Virtuosity98 said: 20 Feb 2021, 10:21 Yes. Anaxagore said: 20 Feb 2021, 22:13 #wine and #poison Rockbert (I would have prefered to wait but I'm likely getting lynched tomorrow) Virtuosity98 said: 20 Feb 2021, 23:21 Noted. Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:23 Anaxagore: Account balance: 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 13, 13, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 13 Inventory: Paint, Gauntlet, Sword, Watchman, Dagger. Town Rich List: Your net worth is the 1st highest. You are now the Shopkeeper. Post#1 Shopkeeper (assigned at the start of the game): • Gains 50% of all money spent by players in the Shop (capped at 10 coins per day). • Records what every masked player buys. • Buyers see the Shopkeeper’s mask. • Still pays full price for store items. • If killed, the Shop goes to the killer. • If lynched, the Shop goes to the Lord of Verona. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:26 #buy poison Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:27 Noted. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 02:28 If one of my fellow Montague had run as I said, the game was won... Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 03:09 I don't have any watchman report? Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 03:12 The Watchman you received was unassigned. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 08:43 Is this possible for an investigation to go wrong? Virtuosity98 said: 22 Feb 2021, 08:48 I can neither confirm nor deny. Depends on people's Role PMs. Anaxagore said: 22 Feb 2021, 22:05 I don't know what the hell is going on with Elysium but this is really weird[/spoiler][/quote] [/spoiler] It was always possible that Elysium was lying when he said the "silver mask was not my house." It just seems unlikely.

[quote=elysium5]rheisel, I think by process of elimination this game comes down to you and your House. [/quote] I am absolutely okay with killing the mafia. I understand the argument that the game will be over, but given the strength of the certain houses and the various ways the game was balanced, I think we may end up with a 3 to 3 split as some people are predicting.

[quote=elysium5]rheisel, I think by process of elimination this game comes down to you and your House. [/quote] Is there anything you can say to clarify in this statement? Again, I am feeling very good about killing Anax this afternoon. That he is refusing to play with us again given our current levels of skill...well, I don't know what to say. I do hope I get better at the game. :)

[quote=rheisel][quote=elysium5]rheisel, I think by process of elimination this game comes down to you and your House. [/quote] I am absolutely okay with killing the mafia. I understand the argument that the game will be over, but given the strength of the certain houses and the various ways the game was balanced, I think we may end up with a 3 to 3 split as some people are predicting.[/quote] If you show me your role, I'll show you mine. We can end this game right now.

You are the swing vote.

How am I a swing vote? I am missing something.

I thought I was the swing vote. LOL There is not a swing vote in my deduction.