Money and Masks GAME THREAD

Archiee is the new doughboy.

killed first by mafia last game (bad move, what was mafia thinking) didn't get a chance to play. had a chance to play this one. no reply. just a sacrifice. let's get lucky!

Afternoon 1 is now over. GM_Archiee was lynched. He was a learning townie. He was wearing a Gold mask. It is now Night 1. Please conduct any actions you wish to perform. Please remember to specify which items and coins you take with you if you leave your houses. If there is no specification, it will be randomly chosen. Night 1 will end in 16 hours [url=https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20190130T015200&p0=%3A&msg=End+of+Night+1&font=cursive&csz=1#](countdown)[/url]. [spoiler=NIGHT ACTIONS:]• #USE [previously bought item]: once per night, use an item according to its instructions • #RUN FOR ELECTION - [regime]: enter the next morning's election by paying 1 coin and choosing a regime (you don't leave your house): Socialist - all money is redistributed evenly, then players pay 1 coin for every 2 items they own Centrist - no redistribution of money Capitalist - players receive 1 coin for every 2 items they own • #DEAL: buy or sell items, information, position of Store Owner, from or to other players* then seal the deal. [size=12px]*Players may not sell items below the price for which they were bought.[/size] • #SWAP MASKS WITH [player]: both players agree to pay 2 coins to swap masks (only once per game). • #CHECK HOUSES: check all houses for occupants and for CCTV cameras. • [other Role-specific night actions][/spoiler]

Well then... let's see what happened... People that lynched: [user]Hoodlum[/user], [user]Anaxagore[/user], [user]Paulcha[/user], [user]Sygmassacre[/user], [user]AlexCheckMate[/user] (5) On Paulcha: AlexCheckMate (1) On AlexCheckMate: Paulcha (1) On Archiee: Hoodlum, Sygmassacre (mayor double), Anaxagore (4) People that didn't: [user]Elysium5[/user], [user]Kyla[/user], [user]Muzthebus[/user], [user]Huskers01[/user], [user]Mayba[/user], [user]GM_Archiee[/user], [user]CheekyTeeky[/user], [user]Jimmy1066[/user], [user]Dough_boy[/user] (9) Those with an 'excuse' (not having been online...): CheekyTeeky (24jan), jimmy1066 (19jan) (2) Those without: elysium5, Kyla, Muzthebus, Huskers01, Mayba, GM_Archiee (dead now... #shame), dough_boy (7 (6 left)). Personally, I am not satisfied at all :( [quote=Virtuosity98]Keep going everyone! On the whole everyone seems to be playing quite well :)[/quote] Sure wonder whether that was sincere or saracsm... [quote=Sygmassacre]Paulcha was on my list because he messaged me. I should have put mayba on there too[/quote] syg...... you just put everyone who messages you in your list of 'do not lynch' ? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make sense to me :x Having said all that.... I'd love to hear what everyone thinks of our afternoon phase - from those that voted (+why?) and those that didnt (+why?) What are we going to do with the next election? Do we wish to continue with syg? Or someone else? It might make sense to already discuss this NOW - rather than having 13 people run for election and thus wasting a bunch of coins.... Was anyone in contact with GM_Archiee? Any information about/from him that can be shared? Would be appreciated. Anyone with a clue what a learning townie could've been? As for [user]Virtuosity98[/user], what happens with the Gold mask? Furthermore.... I would like to point out that there are 3 mafia within our midst - with our current 'activity', the mafia can already take over the lynch (especially if they also get mayor), they'd have 4 votes.... as said: Input from the bunch of ya'all; APPRECIATED =) -Alex

I lynched Gm archiee because he was inactive but online. Also i never liked his name. Maybe you were right abput paulcha but that was too light for me to lynch him.

[quote=Anaxagore]I lynched Gm archiee because he was inactive but online. Also i never liked his name. Maybe you were right abput paulcha but that was too light for me to lynch him.[/quote] My suggested lynch target NOT getting lynched was actually the [u]only[/u] GOOD thing of the lynch - it provided [i]some[/i] information. Nevertheless, it might be good to try and lynch him again in the next lynchphase... I'm not at all convinced that he's not on the evil side of town... Your lynch however........ is/was the most suspicious - you are my prime suspect as of that moment :x The posts you place in this forum only add to that :( For someone who claims to be very into the game... I see very little of your thoughts (which surely, you must have loads? concerning the game I mean). -Alex [i]PS.... it bothers me that I'm clogging up the entire thread with my posts =D I'll try to refrain from posting so much; as I already know my own thoughts and have more use of getting some insight in the thoughts of others, rather than putting my own online here, for you all to read...[/i]

[b][size=18px]ANNOUNCEMENT: Socialist Regimes will now tax 1 coin for every item owned, and not 1 coin for every 2 items owned. [/size][/b] @AlexCheckMate the Gold mask is out of the game.

If im so susipicious, just lynch me tomorrow. I gave you the reasons. I can add tht i prefer a clear lynch since i'm afraid of secret votes, that could be on me. And as we discuss i dont know anytging yet except a couple roles. Its was just day one. We almost never know anything at this stage. Just chill man.

I have never been a fan of the "they are active on the site but not active in the game" reasoning. That might have worked the first time, but anymore any experienced D12 mafia player will know that if they are Mafia they need to be seen, even if just a little. So, were the 3 who voted for Archiee just unlucky? I am going to guess no. Hood has always done the vote for someone not active Syg knew his 2 votes likely would seal Archiee's fate Anax didn't need to do anything Another angle is that sometimes Mafioso's will jump on the bandwagon. In my conversation with Anax we went back and forth "vetting" each other. Then we find out that Virt might have accidentally shared the town's win scenario. I had provided my Role PM to Anax and haven't heard anything back. Also, with Paulcha and Alex cross voting could it be a diversionary tactic? Right now I am going to put money on Anax, Alex and Paulcha as NOT town...

[quote=dough_boy]I have never been a fan of the "they are active on the site but not active in the game" reasoning. That might have worked the first time, but anymore any experienced D12 mafia player will know that if they are Mafia they need to be seen, even if just a little. So, were the 3 who voted for Archiee just unlucky? I am going to guess no. Hood has always done the vote for someone not active Syg knew his 2 votes likely would seal Archiee's fate Anax didn't need to do anything Another angle is that sometimes Mafioso's will jump on the bandwagon. In my conversation with Anax we went back and forth "vetting" each other. Then we find out that Virt might have accidentally shared the town's win scenario. [b][size=18px]I had provided my Role PM to Anax and haven't heard anything back.[/size][/b] Also, with Paulcha and Alex cross voting could it be a diversionary tactic? Right now I am going to put money on Anax, Alex and Paulcha as NOT town...[/quote] When did you give Anax your role PM? Can you give more information regarding this fact? e.g. would it be before [u]28 Jan 2019, 10:47[/u]? Did he ask for your role PM, or did you offer it? Was it done via #DEAL? As for your first line - I fully agree with that. I am no fan of it either. It is not something I would wish to continue with; it's more meant as an incentive for players to get active in the game. Without sharing of info and puzzling together, mafia has it bagged. Agree with your point about Anax' vote (I already hinted towards it in my writing) - his lynch was rather pointless. to me it seems as a 'I'd best just lynch... to not be noticed...' - especially as there's no argument presented in the lynch. I'm very happy to see that you provide us with your first 3 main suspects - with 2 of them, I kinda agree =) (note, they're also standing on sygs list :o - his list, however, is for people he considers 'safe' :p) Considering I do not wish to get lynched, I'd be more than willing to guide Anax/Paulcha towards the gallows, according to the info we've gathered thus far. One critical note: Where was your #Lynch? [quote=Anaxagore]If im so susipicious, just lynch me tomorrow. I gave you the reasons. I can add tht i prefer a clear lynch since i'm afraid of secret votes, that could be on me. And as we discuss i dont know anytging yet except a couple roles. Its was just day one. We almost never know anything at this stage. Just chill man. [/quote] Fully Zen here, how about over there? Why would you expect secret votes on you - what kind of info did you share about yourself? They'd be much more logical on either me or paulcha? Obviously, the info isn't out there so early already - but we gotta keep pulling everywhere, provided we wish to obtain it and as such lead towards a victory for the townsmen? -Alex

oh my. not such a little mistake by the mod. oh well. it makes it more challenging.

I provided my Role PM to Anax at 29 Jan 2019, 01:08. So it was likely after Virt handing it out.

[quote=AlexCheckMate][...] Having said all that.... I'd love to hear what everyone thinks of our afternoon phase - from those that voted (+why?) and those that didnt (+why?) What are we going to do with the next election? Do we wish to continue with syg? Or someone else? It might make sense to already discuss this NOW - rather than having 13 people run for election and thus wasting a bunch of coins.... [...] -Alex[/quote] Only quoting this section now - but still hoping for reactions from everyone on the complete thing.... I received word from Anax by inbox that he's going to run for mayor. Next to this, he has said he is quite sure of me being mafia (& therefore stops talking to me). To end the tirade, he says he consciously doesn't speak/write much in the forum. I for one would prefer that he does [b][i]NOT[/i][/b] get to be the mayor for tomorrow. Not paulcha either. I could run for mayor myself, but I suppose that isn't the best idea - it would be best if someone else (not appointed by me) goes for mayor (and hopefully someone I approve of, ghehe :d). Why not me? Because none of you can be certain that I'm not mafia either and I'm rather vocal here, so I'm sure there's quite some opinions on me being formed by now already :) Can I please get a volunteer to run for mayor? As well as people supporting his candicacy. I would really like it if we could already agree on the next mayor, before we even start the next phase =) (just <6h left). From towns perspective - we would save a lot of money - so it's good, right? =) [size=18px][b]More posts in this thread please - thank you![/b][/size] -Alex IRT dough_boy Sounds risky to me..... why did you do/agree on it?

[quote=dough_boy]I provided my Role PM to Anax at 29 Jan 2019, 01:08. So it was likely after Virt handing it out.[/quote] I dont really see where you are trying to get with this. Anyway it seems some people love to point fingers at me for some weird reasons, like a lynch that was already made.. I went to sleep around 2 woke up at 10 something. Agreed on the lynch for the reasons i gave even though i lnew gm_arxhiee may have been town. Went back to sleep a couple hours. Thats it. Can we move to something more concrete? Ok everyone got the win clause sentence right so virt probably leaked it. But there is some other part.. And since many are afraid of sharing it, i doubt mafia and neutrals got that part. (maybe they do but at least im trying to do something) At the moment 2 people have agreed to exchange the rest of the pm with me. They re the only i kind of trust so far. By the way, i am running for mayor #capitalism I have a bit of money (not that much) and a couple of items and i dont want to be taxed on everything. Moreover i will spend everything if socialism comes back..like i guess eveeyone. If someone else wann go representing capitalism i can withdraw my candidacy

[quote]I'm very happy to see that you provide us with your first 3 main suspects - with 2 of them, I kinda agree =) (note, they're also standing on sygs list :o - his list, however, is for people he considers 'safe' :p) Considering I do not wish to get lynched, I'd be more than willing to guide Anax/Paulcha towards the gallows, according to the info we've gathered thus far. [/quote]y I dont know were all that come from, and if its suspicious based on gut feeling or just because people evoqued theese names earlier, it is absolutly unfunded. But I'll give you one thing, and I think it is a good sign, you are really active here and suspicious about everything, I'd like everyone to recon that, either you play a mafia or neutral role very good and with a lot of energy, either you are really trying to figure out all this. And i'm really happy for that even if it migth make you a target, I i'm more incline to trust you even if you accuse me and you are wrong. THERE IS SOMETHING I would like to point out that as Nothing to Do with You. Did you noticed, that eevryone choose GM ARCHIE because he was inncative, but when The last Mafia Game he was innactive Too and found town Too. WOULD VIRTUOSITY, wanting the game to be fun with all the complex it is, and How he is such invested in trying to keep it going GIVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE, such as MAFIA or NEUTRAL to someone he probably never talked with and that was ALREADY INNACTIVE last game ?? I dont think so, I had no time to see that coming, but Now I am thinking the people who lynched him, or Influenced that vote, at least one, migth have had the same reasoning, knowing they would probably kill a townie?