Map Suggestions

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bogusred wrote:
Hello. This is a followup to http://dominating12.com/forum/?cmd=topic&act=view&id=93&page=29#post-35195

Here's the response I received from Nintendo about getting permission to make a map based on Zelda.

Spoiler (click to show)

Let me know if you think this is fair use or not. Nintendo generally doesn't go after people for this sort of thing. They will go after you if you try to recreate one of their games. And even then it's a cease and desist. Though I'm not a lawyer. Thoughts?
aeronautic wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to contact them.

You are right, we are not trying to rip off their creation, merely use the concept and not profit from it.

If they do object in the future, we can simply remove it, because it is only the display of the recreated image they can object to.

I think the key points in all this are "Non Profit" & "Non Defamation", where we don't make any money from using their map and we do not mar their good reputation or company image in what we create from it.

All the info' you have supplied along with my response here, will stay on the forum for any formal reference in the future and as you can see, all the onus is on my decision.

I have no problem in you making a draft of your proposed map here, but think you should clearly show which map you are basing it on, so there is no uncertainty or possible accusation of intent to deceive.
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Matty wrote:
I think this means go for it, with in the back of the mind that it will be removed if Nintendo asks us - which they probably won't do if I understand the email.
Just be sure to put somewhere on the map a sentence like: "Fan made map, not affilated with Nintendo" or something.

They basically say something like: "Yeah, we have no time to bother, so we're not going to say yes because you abuse that later. But really, we don't care right now".

yay!
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PsymonStark wrote:
That means that we can work with everything from Nintendo, as long as we provide disclaimers, then?
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Cireon wrote:
What is that? You want to make a Super Mario map?
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PsymonStark wrote:
Yup, Pokémon map. As far as I know there was interest at some point.

I could try and do something based on the Kanto-Johto map, which is the easiest to adapt in my opinion.
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bogusred wrote:
Cool. Thanks so much Aeronautic and Matty. I guess I should start a thread once I have a draft then?
Thanks again! I'm super excited.
aeronautic wrote:
There is definitely interest in this map, but please put a draft of your ideas here first and we can discuss it.

Please also read the DXII Guide to Map Making thoroughly before you make a draft.
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naathim wrote:
Here is a very rough first draft of the Alexander the great idea.

I used that map that I posted as a basis, but I filled in some gaps and altered a few things since it was Achaemenid satrapies and not really Alexander's empire.

I stretched the borders here and there. But some of the territories are just TOO small. Especially since on my pdn I have the size as 1817x925. I can cut out the western sea bits that'll save 150pxls and the eastern kingdoms, that are awful small anyhow, and that'll save another 200pxls. It's just soooo wide.

There won't be room for a mini-map.

Lot's of small regions with lot's of borders. But I think with some rivers and a few judicious borders shifts, there'll at least be the potential to build larger, more defensible areas for deathmatch. And as it is, would be alright for a caps map.

Again, extremely rough draft, just looking for approval to move ahead on it.

Spoiler (click to show)

Actual link to give a better overall view I think.

http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/drewbrookover/media/Alexander%20the%20great%20upload_zps3rcos6yd.jpg.html
Matty wrote:
Curious, how many territories does it have?

It has quite a lot of regions, and degenitely needs a minimap I think. Otherwise it'll be unclear what gets what.
You can maybe place one in the bottom right and then just make the whole map taller to fit it.


Edit: around 70 territories. Hmmz, not that much.
"Strength doesn't lie in numbers, strength doesn't lie in wealth. Strength lies in nights of peaceful slumbers." ~Maria
naathim wrote:
If I knock out the eastern territories, I'm thinking around 60 territories. So a smallish map.

I'd also like to find out a way to do a non-traditional bonus method (if possible, I know that might not gel with programming people lol) where region bonuses matter less than number of territory bonuses. Make it into a conquest style map. Which I think would reflect well on the theme and the (ancient) history of the region.

Something like (2+x)/2=y where x is the number of territories and y is the bonus, rounded down. (although that's basically the system now I guess lol)

Or something like for every 2 territories, plus 2 extra territories you get +1 bonus. So 4 territories would get you +1, 6 territories +2, 8 +3.

Maybe have each region worth only +1 bonus.

Idk I know that's probably impossible, but it would be fun :)
naathim wrote:
Zoinks, don't mind me, I've been looking at a TON of historical greco-roman-persian maps from the south east europe/central asia region. And if this Alexander the great map doesn't pan out, which idk if it will there's just a lot of inherent problems to overcome with the concept itself, I do think it would be fun/awesome if the site had a Trojan war map.

If Alexander the great gets voted down I think I'll pursue it. Or if someone else wants to take it up, I'll leave these here:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Homeric_Greece-en.svg

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/ashp/NEWhp252/portnov/crazymap.gif

http://winefolly.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ancient-greek-wine-regions-map1.jpg

(the wine region map basically takes care of everything you'd need for the achaean side of things. A wine map for cripes sake...)
realdream wrote:
Hey, I was thinking about the game maps lately, and I was wondering if a middle earth (Lord of the Rings/ The Hobbit) map could be possible? I don't know about permission or anything but I was thinking that if a westeros map was already allowed, a middle earth (lotr) could be cool too.

I'm sorry if this has already been suggested and denied, but I can't be bothered to go through 463 messages to see if a middle earth map has already been suggested. (SORRY!)

Finally, if it is possible I already found 2 maps for risk & middle earth;

1. I realize that this map belongs to a company already but it'd still be a good base to work on:
http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=47109&mode=view
2. I did a google for "middle earth map risk". It worked: http://www.boardgamebeast.com/images/conquerclub2.jpg
Cireon wrote:
It has been suggested several times before, but LOTR in general is not very nice when it comes to IP (intellectual property). Nevertheless, a project was once started, but was put on hold: http://www.dominating12.com/forum/?cmd=topic&id=713
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