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The_Bishop wrote:
OK. Sorry for the debate. I was just excited to begin this tourney, you know, and after only 1 round the game has been ended. And now I have to wait 3 days. This got me a bit nervous and critical. But probably it was not the case. I will surely enjoy more playing a good game.

But really I didn't want to debate this specific case, but the concept in the large. It will be very useful for the next tourney. I think we need to write some more rules specially about replacements and team responsibilities.

@Matty - Yes, probably Crystal and I deserved a good game... In fact the opening was very bad! Lolz

@Westy - I didn't say you don't have to trust Iparsona anymore. Maybe he had some troubles in his private life, we don't know. By the way I guess you can't use your second account for playing a team game. But really... You cannot have a second account! Lolz

No respect for the rules... :(
«God doesn't play dice with the World» ~ Albert Einstein
The_Bishop wrote:
Iparsona is back! Just in time!

Spartakus' new teammate... no news

Games in progress are there:
http://www.the-inkstore.co.uk/frame/D12_2013_2v2_Tournament.htm
«God doesn't play dice with the World» ~ Albert Einstein
lifeinpixels wrote:
I agree Bishop, I'm hoping that players in this tournament can give me lots of feedback and suggestions for the next one, so the bugs get all worked out.
Thorpe wrote:
The_Bishop
OK. Sorry for the debate.

You did not start this debate...I did! You started that other one... let me have some credit for this problem... you got a lot of credit (in my tally book) to last for another two years...LOL
But really I am glad you are back to playing again Bishop...and for your comments in the forums.

F.Y.I. ... this is for you members that want to see the games
http://www.the-inkstore.co.uk/frame/D12_2013_2v2_Tournament.htm
... just click on the Avatars and it will send you to that game. I just found out about this today by clicking on one... the chart is great! You do not have to go anywhere else to find about who is playing who and who won what...all in one page!
95.5% of the time you kill a players cap before your 2nd turn in... you fail or die next
The_Bishop wrote:
Still waiting round one :(( And you all probably will have to wait our game to finish.
I was right to say to don't grant anything to Sparta.
He just made all of us to wait 3 days. He didn't search a new teammate at all!!

By the way...

My rule proposal for the next games:

1. Never end a tournament game without a winner.

2. Player leaving the game: neutralized in 2 rounds, as usual. Whatever the reason is.

3. Player not joining the game: wait 48h then start the game with only 3 players.
If you are in a tournament, it's supposed you will check the site daily!

4. In the cases #2 and #3 the player can rejoin at the next game if his mate won playing alone.

5. Replacement: never allowed.

6. Very first game: in this case I agree to grant an additional 24h to find a replacement. In total are 72h, as it was for Westparsona team. But only at the first game of the tournament.

Lifeinpixels, you are the referee of this tournament. You have not to be pleasant with everybody. You have to be inflexible on the respect for the rules. You have not to judge the single person. You have to judge the teams.

Team responsibility: your teammate, your problem.
Your teammate makes blunders in the game, your problem. Your teammate missed his turn, your problem. Your teammate doesn't join the game in time, your problem. Your teammate doesn't answer you, your problem. Your teammate leaves the game and goes on vacation, your problem. Your teammate forgot to be in the tourney, your problem. Your teammate has been banned from the site, your problem.
The 2 last examples are very rare... But they just happened both!!

@Everybody - Do you all agree with these rules? Or at least a majority. Let me know.

@Aeronautic - Make me a favor please. Delete Edno..stuff team from the chart. They are out and I don't want to see that team anymore. Thanks.
«God doesn't play dice with the World» ~ Albert Einstein
lifeinpixels wrote:
I'm very sorry Bishop for what has happened with your game. However, i disagree with what you're saying. A team game with one team missing a player is not a good game at all; they hardly have a chance. I think that there must be a priority for good games over quick ones. I want this tournament to be a high quality one, not one where we crank out as many games as possible in a small period of time.

The issue with Spartakus and Sekretar is very unfortunate, but there's nothing I or Spartakus could do about that. I think it was fair to give Spartakus 3 days to find a new partner because the situation was out of his control. Having him play by himself would mean he loses for sure. It wouldn't really be a team match anymore. Would you really have preferred that?

I do appreciate your suggestions though. I hope the next tournament is an improvement from this one, and the more feedback I get the better.
westchester wrote:
whats the news with spartakus' game, did he find a new mate? who wins the game that sekerater got banned in?
aeronautic wrote:
I'm sorry The_Bishop I can only do as instructed by lifeinpixels under professional etiquette.

Can I just say, that a player was banned in my last tournament and no replacement was given, this actually killed me instantly, as it was a 1v1v1v1 match and that player's last act was to place all his travelling troops against my territory exit point, with the rest of his troops at the far end of my territory, which he needed to join up to survive, thus completely blocking me in when forced to stop playing. Had there been a replacement, he would have continued to try and win and so join his troops up and so opened my exit on one side or the other!!
Perhaps I should have shouted "Unfair" and asked for a restart due to the circumstances, which only affected me and no other player in a negative way. It served only to take away my strategic advantage.
Hyd yn oed er fy mod Cymraeg , dim ond yn siarad Saesneg, felly yr wyf yn gobeithio y bydd y cyfieithu yn gywir.
lifeinpixels wrote:
Aero, go ahead and take out Spartakus' team from the roster. I've asked the teams on the waiting list to sub in, so as soon as one of them gets back to me I'll let you know.
Matty wrote:
I personally don't really care for the tournament part about it, I just like to try team games and get feedback on it.
The more usefull things I know about them, the more easily it will be to one day actually implement them.

For that I need good quality games, not ones that are guaranteed to end 3 days later.
"Strength doesn't lie in numbers, strength doesn't lie in wealth. Strength lies in nights of peaceful slumbers." ~Maria
Thorpe wrote:
lifeinpixels
A team game with one team missing a player is not a good game at all; they hardly have a chance. I think that there must be a priority for good games over quick ones. I want this tournament to be a high quality one, not one where we crank out as many games as possible in a small period of time.

If you have tougher rules ... then you have quality games ... plus this makes it a standard so when we do get team-games as an option, then members know the rules. Can you see the Admins. on this site doing this on top of what they do now? Putting in replacements for the long term games or just live ones ... I hope you the rules say:

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Team responsibility: 
If your teammate makes blunders in the game, missed their turn, doesn't join the game in time, leaves the game and goes on vacation, forgot to be in the tourney, has been banned from the site, or does moves you do not agree with, is your responibility. So please do not write the staff to help solve problems that do not pretain to gilches in the running of the games

I think The_Bishop has a big idea here and Matty you may want to comment on the rules to set-up a standard for team-games.
95.5% of the time you kill a players cap before your 2nd turn in... you fail or die next
lifeinpixels wrote:
Yes Thorpe, maybe it will be good to clarify that to team members in the future. Since it is the first time we are trying this, I thought it was fair to give Spartakus time to try and find a replacement. But I agree with Matty, we must strive for good quality games, not cheap ones just to get through the tournament. That's why I'm trying to get a replacement for Spartakus' team instead of just sending him to fight two players by himself.

There's a good chance that Bishop and Crystal will be playing Clarke and Axobongo, I'm just waiting for one more confirmation and they'll be good to go.