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2ofclubs wrote:
elysium5
Ok, I voted Mada but I was the first one and I gave you my reasons. Further reason is that clubs who is supposed to be town also suspected Mada (I won't post the whole conversation):
2ofclubs said:
13 Dec 2021, 01:25
Preliminary conclusions (Mada, Rock and Lando are mafia suspects...

I wasn't here when the bandwagon train formed.

Sorry, Mada.

I have also requested to be investigated several times so I could be cleared to join the group chat but that has not happened so...

I had to make my own decision based on what I can gleam from the forums.

I am on the outside looking in and I'm sorry but everyone's 'proof' is really just heresy. It might be proof to individuals personally, but no actual proof of anything has been shown to this point in the forums except that Mada was a Hero. agreed

That does not mean the arguments haven't been compelling or that I don't see who is likely good or who is likely bad but given the 'facts' that have been shared, I chose to vote for someone who was considered suspicious by someone who claims to be 100% proven as good. Fair and again I am good I will have to die before Loki uh Ten validates :(

I didn't want to waste my vote on Anax and Hood wants to be lynched? That is concerning, like I said before. There has to be some plan in place for that to be a strategy and as far as jkl is concerned, yeah probably being manipulated but also a new player so I went with an experienced player who I KNOW is really good at this game and was WAY to quite and beyond vague on the couple occasions he posted including saying he was neither a Hero or a Villain. Agree

I trusted clubs as town and I trusted his suspicions about Mada. I can make mistakes and it was a suspicion just like yours were of him

I am NOT saying clubs is NOT town because of this and I am NOT trying to put some crazy spin on things like what seems to be happening.

I am playing the game as best as I can with the very limited info I have as I am not a part of any group. There isn't a group just individual pairs linked with a kind of double blind safety net - have posted this.

I do believe that the most likely scenario is that team Ry/clubs are in fact good guys.
  YES WE ARE

where are thin -actives and are they really in-active. I checked the log and when heavy chat is going they have been on line hmmmm
WRKD4IT
Hoodlum wrote:
it's a lot easier to just come out of the closet clubs/rom and play the numbers game, rather than pretend to be town. a 100% inspect of everyone being mafia is a bit much. the inspect choice of a newbie jklmnop is just an odd choice, i just don't believe between you/rom that you would have said, hey..lets inspect the newbie jk with hoodlum, and anaxagore. heck, don't even think you inspected me, i said myself i was villain.
you've made your mistake with the pm's. the jig is up on the hero claim :) 
2ofclubs wrote:
In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

Win Conditions
Superheros - Get rid of all the villains
Villains - Get rid of all the Superheros

yes it is about as plain/straightforward set up as there can be. the only twist is the picking and utilization of the abilities/super powers.
WRKD4IT
Hoodlum wrote:
2ofclubs
In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

Win Conditions
Superheros - Get rid of all the villains
Villains - Get rid of all the Superheros

yes it is about as plain/straightforward set up as there can be. the only twist is the picking and utilization of the abilities/super powers.

when is the last time d12 has had the simplest form of mafia? i don't remember one game.
2ofclubs wrote:
Hoodlum
it's a lot easier to just come out of the closet clubs/rom and play the numbers game, rather than pretend to be town. a 100% inspect of everyone being mafia is a bit much. the inspect choice of a newbie jklmnop is just an odd choice, i just don't believe between you/rom that you would have said, hey..lets inspect the newbie jk with hoodlum, and anaxagore. heck, don't even think you inspected me, i said myself i was villain.
you've made your mistake with the pm's. the jig is up on the hero claim :) 

Is that the spin you can come up with at this juncture?
Whatever scum and tell your pawn to just give it up Oh wait one of his claim non believers in me already said that. LOL

Go ahead kill me tonight out of vengeance - oh wait I am your Nemesis I can't die.
WRKD4IT
2ofclubs wrote:
Hoodlum
lol it's copy pasted from what you sent me. and at the bottom we can read that you and rom yet again.....are putting in actions twogether and receiving the feedback.

nope check the time stamp the you speculate I forgot to edit
2ofclubs said:
11 Dec 2021, 20:17
well I have juicy info I need to know 100% that your a Hero.

Ryomyr said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:31
Trust in your Juliet and share that Villain's name!!!

2ofclubs said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:28
you are taking to long to respond???
Ryomyr said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:29
Please share villain name!!
Ryomyr said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:30
I had already shared my role with you, btw. Sorry about the slow response. Look back at what I sent you.

Ryomyr said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:40
Send your ability request PM with TN to confirm your query and answer about Anax.
2ofclubs said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:41
So I am trusting you. I will probably be a target no matter what and trust has to start somewhere.
2ofclubs said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:42
Why do you need the request. Trust your Romeo LOL
Ryomyr said:
11 Dec 2021, 23:44
I don't know... to mitigate my doubts and quell my fears? To continue building trust between us?

2ofclubs said:
12 Dec 2021, 19:20
ROTFLMAO
THIS A PASTE after my ROT comment in the PM I justedited the margin like it appears in pm which is lost when you copy from PM and paste
   2ofclubs said:
   12 Dec 2021, 18:58
   XRAY Hoods role.
   please & thank you
  Tennesseelogman said:
  12 Dec 2021, 19:17
  hood is a villain
Now Ryo responds
Ryomyr said:
12 Dec 2021, 19:24
HA!!! It seemed weird to suggest Mada. Diversionary tactics.

I also found Ely's confusion and missing of a spoiler a little bit improbable. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I remember missing stuff like that before as well. we are generating A LOT of text.

WRKD4IT
2ofclubs wrote:
it's a lot easier to just come out of the closet clubs/rom and play the numbers game, rather than pretend to be town. a 100% inspect of everyone being mafia is a bit much. the inspect choice of a newbie jklmnop is just an odd choice, i just don't believe between you/rom that you would have said, hey..lets inspect the newbie jk with hoodlum, and anaxagore. heck, don't even think you inspected me, i said myself i was villain.
you've made your mistake with the pm's. the jig is up on the hero claim :)

Setting the record strait
I knew you were villain befor you posted it and shared it in the PM with Ryo.

Posted: 13 Dec 2021, 11:57 Post #204
im a villain, but not a villain. the villains villain. and i guess mada is the opposite. a hero but not a hero, the heroes hero?

2ofclubs said:
12 Dec 2021, 18:58
XRAY Hoods role.
please & thank you
Tennesseelogman said:
12 Dec 2021, 19:17
hood is a villain

Setting the record strait
WRKD4IT
Hoodlum wrote:
Hoodlum said:
12 Dec 2021, 14:52
xray 2ofclubs role.
Tennesseelogman said:
12 Dec 2021, 15:17
2ofclubs is a villain
Tennesseelogman wrote:
there has been some confusion and frustration expressed about me being too rigid on the 21;00 deadline and the need to deploy some of the defensive abilities in advance.
1st - the deadline is 21;00
2nd - #8 - invincibility, #9 - shield, and #12 - invisibility must be deployed the phase before you want to use it. i wanted some of the abilities to be different from each other while some are essentially the same (11 and 15) . but mainly i did not want there to be a time zone advantage. for instance - if the deadline falls at 2 am for somebody and 8pm for others - that person may not want to stay up to check the last minute lynch vote count to see if he needs to deploy a defensive ability. this way his 7pm request to deploy it for use the following phase is just as effective as the other guys who also asks at 7pm. (i have had to stay up til midnight in a prev game to decide if i needed to save myself that night or could i keep it for later)

since i came up w this concept on my own, i did not anticipate all the situations that might cause a conflict. and i am sorry that my explanation of some of the game mechanics was lacking. i will try to be consistent as things continue to come up. feel free to point out to me anything i posted that was unclear or contradictory.
Live long and prosper
Abs wrote:
Thanks TLM, no issues, cant be easy to organise all of this anyway!

Rockbert wrote:
Anaxagore
Gona help you understand a bit:

All villains know all the villains but there are 2 families:

-Anaxagore
-A
-B
-C
-D

-JKL
-Hood
-E
-F
-G


We are 10 villains. You have to cooperate.

Do we have any real proof that what Anax is saying here is really happening? I think it would be a great tactic on his part to try and sow despair and confusion for the heroes if he made us think that we could not win. I remain skeptical.
"A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people."
- Thomas Mann
Rockbert wrote:
I agree Tennessee, I think this is going just fine. No issues with the 21:00 deadline.
"A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people."
- Thomas Mann
elysium5 wrote:
There are always issues with deadlines but that is why we have deadlines, right? It needs to end sometime. No issues here.
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