AlexCheckMate
Sygmassacre
Also cheeky will probably be inactive for this whole game since she was helping so much on the marae she never got to even look at this game
I'm quoting this and going to respond on this - not to be obnoxious, but to try and be ethical and fair towards everyone.
There's nothing more I can do/feel than utmost respect for people doing stuff for/with their family - especially in cases such as this one - they take full priority.
Therefore I would like to suggest/hear what everyone (especially syg/V98 (&cheeky? if she's reading?)) thinks about looking for a replacement for cheeky. From a game point of view... there's no sense in having someone in game who's not going to be able to play and from cheeky's point of view - I'd feel bad myself for letting down people who sort of depend on me. By replacing her, that last feeling can be undermined. This is however by far not my decision - I'm just surfacing it, in case noone else is contemplating about it.
Thanks for reading & responsing,
-Alex
^
https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3084/money-and-masks-game-thread/post/53991#post-53991 ^ Post #175; #176 (syg agreeing)
Just to keep you all in the loop with respect to how this is going. A conversation between me and V98 - just so you know I've not dropped my 'new project' :p wasn't an empty call.
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 14:50
Any thoughts about replacing inactives?
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:00
I've thought about replacing inactives... I don't know of anyone else who would join :/ but maybe dead players who were active could sub in... But that would be impossible because they could have win clause confliciton (dead townie subs in for inactive mafia for example).
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:05
I don't know of anyone else who would join :/ but maybe dead players who were active could sub in
I'd be fine to try and ask around if someone wants to get in =) - you'd be fine with it?
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:12
Yes if you can find anyone that would be fine. But at this stage I don't expect anyone to join.
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:12
You've found yourself the first replacement:
Message: Mafia
From: AlexCheckMate
To: DumbPlay
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 16:09
Heyhey!
Could I interest you to play (a game of) mafia? - https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3084/money-and-masks-game-thread
There's one who can't play because of a dead in the family.... would be great if someone overtook the role would be wanting to add you in RIGHT NOW
Awaiting your reply,
Alex
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 17:57
thanks for asking but no. Too may people want me dead
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 17:57
I want you alive
Who wants you dead?
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:07
i don't know how to play
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:08
You do not need to know
You'll pick it up real quick
You're the next best thing after 007!
So you in? =)
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:08
"who wants me dead" says the man who has killed me many times recently.
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:09
No I havent! :O
Shall I message the host that he should message you?
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:10
duh - what do I do and when do I do it you smooth talking bar steward?
*sigh*
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:11
LOVE YOU!
Ain't much you need to do - I'll message V98 to give you a short infoez - I could tell you some stuff too, but I am not completely impartial, as I'm playing too :p So it's probably better if he does it <3AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:49
Another one:
Message: Mafia
From: AlexCheckMate
To: SpaceDragon2004
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:15
Heyhey!
Could I interest you to play (a game of) mafia? - https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3084/money-and-masks-game-thread
There's one who can't play because of a dead in the family.... would be great if someone overtook the role would be wanting to add you in RIGHT NOW
Awaiting your reply,
Alex
SpaceDragon2004 said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:08
Sure! I'm not exactly sure how to play, but I'll try! Do I have to be active? I can only be active during Monday thru Friday, with an exception of tomorrow. I'm only 15, so I'm still in school.
SpaceDragon2004 said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:12
Is there a site I'm supposed to go on, or anything? I'm still really confused on exactly what this is.
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:21
Click the link I provided - read the first post a little bit. The game itself is rather easy and you're rather smart, so I pressume there won't be any problems there. Steep learning curve
You should login everyday (but if you miss a day, it shouldnt be a real problem...)
SpaceDragon2004 said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:28
I'll look at the rules. Go ahead and add me in. I should be in every day between Monday and Friday. If me being gone during the weekends is going to affect the game, then don't put me in.
But like I said, I'll look over the link, and I'll check it out.Thanks for inviting me, I really appreciate it! //he's enthusiastic - thats the best you can get
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 23:02
I do appreciate this, but new players being thrown into this mid game will definitely just create confusion. I don't think either has even played a normal game of mafia/werewolf and this is 5 times more complex. I think it's best to just wait for another game to be honest :/
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 23:04
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:12
Yes if you can find anyone that would be fine. But at this stage I don't expect anyone to join.
It could be ignited the same night but that's unlikely. That would use both their night actions, and in the interest of efficiency they would prefer to ignite multiple houses at the same time (near the end of the game).
I've played 0 games
This game isnt complex
I dunno.... but an inactive is the worst - especially wiht cheeky - she can't be on...... and with them now invited... after you gave me clearance...... would feel wrong to not do it :
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:13
nothing anymore?
Virtuosity98 said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:19
I don't understand ??
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:20
no feedback anymore on our conversation regarding replacements?
Virtuosity98 said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:23
Ah... well I stand by my opinion that it would be too hard for them to pick the game up... not just the mechanics (although they are indeed complicated for people who haven't even played normal mafia before), but also the context of who is doing what and who is innocent/guilty/suspicious/active/inactive etc. They'd just be throwing random night actions and lynch votes around in my opinion.
I probably should have come to this opinion before you spent the effort recruiting
but they could definitely play future mafia games.
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:28
I probably should have come to this opinion before you spent the effort recruiting
- yes lol......
could you please contact them yourself about this change.... they're probably expecting to hear from you how to proceed in the game... so it's best if you tell them that you changed your mind and do not think anymore that it's a good idea to get them in (i actually think they would be very capable of playing - but i can understand your stance on it - and you as host have all the info, so can make a more informed call).
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 13:15
messaged them?
TL;DR - There are no (new) replacements coming. It's of course V98's decision, so that's all good. As said, just sharing so you can see I did follow up on my question/proposal.
-Alex
PS - while writing this all down... I come to realise that there might be 'more' information hidden in this...
#1 I'm not a (hostile) neutral -> more active players are not in his favour. //ofc 'coloured' info, as I'm saying it myself about myself - ghehe - but it does make sense
-it does however not say anything about the option of me being mafia/town (couldve been that I was operating with 2 mafiosi from the start -> 1 inactive)- I can however say I'm not mafia.
#2 It seems likely that within the group of inactives, a 'real' role is hidden - not just a simple townie; otherwise I'd assume V98 would have less trouble with replacing them... I don't exactly recall where I read it... but I think I saw a piece of conversation between Hoodlum/V98 posted in this thread, where V98 mentioned he did not alter his randoming process for the roles; so the likelihood of a proper role hidden within the inactives is very much out there.
[quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Sygmassacre]Also cheeky will probably be inactive for this whole game since she was helping so much on the marae she never got to even look at this game[/quote]
I'm quoting this and going to respond on this - not to be obnoxious, but to try and be ethical and fair towards everyone.
There's nothing more I can do/feel than utmost respect for people doing stuff for/with their family - especially in cases such as this one - they take full priority.
Therefore I would like to suggest/hear what everyone (especially syg/V98 (&cheeky? if she's reading?)) thinks about looking for a replacement for cheeky. From a game point of view... there's no sense in having someone in game who's not going to be able to play and from cheeky's point of view - I'd feel bad myself for letting down people who sort of depend on me. By replacing her, that last feeling can be undermined. This is however by far not my decision - I'm just surfacing it, in case noone else is contemplating about it.
Thanks for reading & responsing,
-Alex[/quote]
^ https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3084/money-and-masks-game-thread/post/53991#post-53991 ^ Post #175; #176 (syg agreeing)
Just to keep you all in the loop with respect to how this is going. A conversation between me and V98 - just so you know I've not dropped my 'new project' :p wasn't an empty call.
[spoiler=Modified convo with V98 regarding replacements]AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 14:50
Any thoughts about replacing inactives?
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:00
I've thought about replacing inactives... I don't know of anyone else who would join :/ but maybe dead players who were active could sub in... But that would be impossible because they could have win clause confliciton (dead townie subs in for inactive mafia for example).
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:05
I don't know of anyone else who would join :/ but maybe dead players who were active could sub in
I'd be fine to try and ask around if someone wants to get in =) - you'd be fine with it?
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:12
Yes if you can find anyone that would be fine. But at this stage I don't expect anyone to join.
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:12
You've found yourself the first replacement:
[u]Message: Mafia
From: AlexCheckMate
To: DumbPlay
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 16:09
Heyhey!
Could I interest you to play (a game of) mafia? - https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3084/money-and-masks-game-thread
There's one who can't play because of a dead in the family.... would be great if someone overtook the role :) would be wanting to add you in RIGHT NOW
Awaiting your reply,
Alex
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 17:57
thanks for asking but no. Too may people want me dead :(
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 17:57
I want you alive
Who wants you dead?
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:07
i don't know how to play
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:08
You do not need to know
You'll pick it up real quick
You're the next best thing after 007!
So you in? =)
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:08
"who wants me dead" says the man who has killed me many times recently. :(
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:09
No I havent! :O
Shall I message the host that he should message you?
DumbPlay said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:10
duh - what do I do and when do I do it you smooth talking bar steward?
*sigh*
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:11
LOVE YOU!
Ain't much you need to do - I'll message V98 to give you a short infoez - I could tell you some stuff too, but I am not completely impartial, as I'm playing too :p So it's probably better if he does it <3[/u]
[u]AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:49
Another one:
Message: Mafia
From: AlexCheckMate
To: SpaceDragon2004
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 18:15
Heyhey!
Could I interest you to play (a game of) mafia? - https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3084/money-and-masks-game-thread
There's one who can't play because of a dead in the family.... would be great if someone overtook the role :) would be wanting to add you in RIGHT NOW
Awaiting your reply,
Alex
SpaceDragon2004 said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:08
Sure! I'm not exactly sure how to play, but I'll try! Do I have to be active? I can only be active during Monday thru Friday, with an exception of tomorrow. I'm only 15, so I'm still in school.
SpaceDragon2004 said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:12
Is there a site I'm supposed to go on, or anything? I'm still really confused on exactly what this is.
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:21
Click the link I provided - read the first post a little bit. The game itself is rather easy and you're rather smart, so I pressume there won't be any problems there. Steep learning curve ;)
You should login everyday (but if you miss a day, it shouldnt be a real problem...)
SpaceDragon2004 said:
31 Jan 2019, 19:28
I'll look at the rules. Go ahead and add me in. I should be in every day between Monday and Friday. If me being gone during the weekends is going to affect the game, then don't put me in.
But like I said, I'll look over the link, and I'll check it out.Thanks for inviting me, I really appreciate it! :D[/u]
//he's enthusiastic - thats the best you can get
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 23:02
I do appreciate this, but new players being thrown into this mid game will definitely just create confusion. I don't think either has even played a normal game of mafia/werewolf and this is 5 times more complex. I think it's best to just wait for another game to be honest :/
AlexCheckMate said:
31 Jan 2019, 23:04
Virtuosity98 said:
31 Jan 2019, 15:12
Yes if you can find anyone that would be fine. But at this stage I don't expect anyone to join.
It could be ignited the same night but that's unlikely. That would use both their night actions, and in the interest of efficiency they would prefer to ignite multiple houses at the same time (near the end of the game).
I've played 0 games
This game isnt complex
I dunno.... but an inactive is the worst - especially wiht cheeky - she can't be on...... and with them now invited... after you gave me clearance...... would feel wrong to not do it :
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:13
nothing anymore?
Virtuosity98 said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:19
I don't understand ?? :S
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:20
no feedback anymore on our conversation regarding replacements?
Virtuosity98 said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:23
Ah... well I stand by my opinion that it would be too hard for them to pick the game up... not just the mechanics (although they are indeed complicated for people who haven't even played normal mafia before), but also the context of who is doing what and who is innocent/guilty/suspicious/active/inactive etc. They'd just be throwing random night actions and lynch votes around in my opinion.
I probably should have come to this opinion before you spent the effort recruiting :S but they could definitely play future mafia games.
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 11:28
I probably should have come to this opinion before you spent the effort recruiting :S - yes lol......
could you please contact them yourself about this change.... they're probably expecting to hear from you how to proceed in the game... so it's best if you tell them that you changed your mind and do not think anymore that it's a good idea to get them in (i actually think they would be very capable of playing - but i can understand your stance on it - and you as host have all the info, so can make a more informed call).
AlexCheckMate said:
01 Feb 2019, 13:15
messaged them?[/spoiler]
TL;DR - There are no (new) replacements coming. It's of course V98's decision, so that's all good. As said, just sharing so you can see I did follow up on my question/proposal.
-Alex
[i]PS - while writing this all down... I come to realise that there might be 'more' information hidden in this...
#1 I'm not a (hostile) neutral -> more active players are not in his favour. //ofc 'coloured' info, as I'm saying it myself about myself - ghehe - but it does make sense ;)
-it does however not say anything about the option of me being mafia/town (couldve been that I was operating with 2 mafiosi from the start -> 1 inactive)- I can however say I'm not mafia. :)
#2 It seems likely that within the group of inactives, a 'real' role is hidden - not just a simple townie; otherwise I'd assume V98 would have less trouble with replacing them... I don't exactly recall where I read it... but I think I saw a piece of conversation between Hoodlum/V98 posted in this thread, where V98 mentioned he did not alter his randoming process for the roles; so the likelihood of a proper role hidden within the inactives is very much out there.[/i]
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