The Realm of Spades mafia game thread

Man well said, then I can prove it.

I don't have enough information on Kyla yet though

That was my intention but my group seems to prefer lynching madag today instead. Also, if they were gonna do that sort of thing they shouldn't have let me in the game bc they're gonna be dealing with a loooot of postgame ranting ;) Also madag NX - PROTECT <USER> is syntax for bodyguard NX - HEAL <USER> Is syntax for doctor Also I have this tidbit of information, from one of my earlier group PMs... [spoiler]Sygmassacre said: 07 Aug 2017, 20:38 UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 17:05 pretty sure he's protected from all night kills if he docs himself, it won't matter if both go after him, right Syg? Yes they are the best doc in the land. No probs to heal from 2 bullet wounds[/spoiler] Notice how syg says heal?

No it is saying that Syg is quoting you.

Well, six other people were in that conversation, and he was certainly not quoting me in that last line. He's quoting my question and then responding.

Alright, I'm going offline now so [b]LYNCH ULTRASPLOT[/b] Clearly mafia who wants to get rid of doc. I gave him a lifeline which he refused

lol @ 'a lifeline'

Madag and everybody, please analyse the pms where he revealed being the doctor to me. See the hours spent when he says will try to build a triangle after we catched him lying, and how he comes directly confessing being the doc. It is not susteinable. You are lying, You are mafia. How you come saying you are a villager the first, if you were doctor u should become quiet... and so on, a fully mess of messages. Uaccused me of mafia and that will share everything, i told you to share and you DID NOT DO IT, because you are afraid. PLEASE EVERYBODY READ THIS!! [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 13:29 Alright I am writing to you because you are new, I don't know if you are in the mafia (King Queen or Jack) or village (the rest of the numbers) but I am a vanillager and have no powers however am very experienced mafia player and want to help the village win. If you are in the village please tell me your number, if not then make it up. I am contacting you in hope that you can trust me because I truely do want the mafia down. If you have any questions please ask me and I'll be able to help you and IF you're mafia please don't kill me, your priority is killing the inspector as he can find you out. IF you are inspector let me be your voice and you could inspect me if you like but I think it is a waste of time, if your the inspector then you should try and find a mafia. My suggestion is Elysium5. His comment looks like he is trying to double bluff the doctor by saying that if the inspector came out then the doctor should protect the inspector but the mafia wouldn't aim for the obvious protected person and so the doctor should protect someone else to make it useful and then the mafia would have a clear shot at inspector. However I'm grasping at straws but if your inspector please go get him. If your the doctor you can't be allowed to be foxed by the mafia, you are the most important villager and MUST NOT reveal yourself. Alright, I hope you take the care to read all of this and please ask me questions. I'm happy to answer them [b]skarni said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 18:02 Hi Madagascarter I really do appreciate your help First of all, i would like to find if there is a chat or forum where to see the elysium and therest of the players chats. Iam not very familiar with the inspector rol and also the doctor role. and late but not your least, i would like to know your card also before telling you mine. [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 20:12 For the first question, I presume you're asking if you can chat with elysium5 alone. Yes you can. on the messages page press "create message" then send to Sygmassacre, Hoodlum and Elysium5. Secondly, the inspector can ask for someone's role once per night and get it at the beginning of the day. The doctor can stop someone from dying once per night. If mafia and doctor target same person there are no deaths. Finally, that statement slightly scares me. Your the only one who has asked such a direct question. I refuse to tell you my number for this reason. That has made me highly suspicious of you. If you are mafia then you would want me to tell you my number then you could make up one that isn't the same number. I know that I am vanillager but I'm not giving you a get out of jail free card if your mafia. However you clearly arn't a newbee to this game as you are asking the right questions however you wern't interested in the Sheriff's role which makes me second doubt myself. You are either the Sheriff or Mafia. I wonder... [b]skarni said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 20:29 Wait wait. There is a Sheriff role? As i explained in the forum, I played that game before, but here were only 1 mafia and the rest just plain vilallgers. I am not experienced with the rest of the roles. you wrote in your fist message "If you are in the village please tell me your number, " I think it is fair you tell me your number also. I have no trouble in posting it, but I want you to tell your number also. Why should I gave you my number first? How Am I sure you are not waiting to have a number just to say another one? Why do u suspect from me for asking you your number, just after you asked me first? [b]skarni said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 20:35 Madagascarter, How can you write this: "Finally, that statement slightly scares me. Your the only one who has asked such a direct question. " Just after writing this on your first post: If you are in the village please tell me your number, In spain we have a phrase for that: You catch a liar before than a lame [b]skarni said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 20:35 Madagascarter, How can you write this: "Finally, that statement slightly scares me. Your the only one who has asked such a direct question. " Just after writing this on your first post: If you are in the village please tell me your number, In spain we have a phrase for that: You catch a liar before than a lame [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 20:39 Man, I forgot I asked this. Let's call it a truce. Anyway the sheriff is on towns side and gets one shot however I'm pretty sure you've got a power role. [b]skarni said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 20:44 i dont trust you and I do not think you forgot that. I think you tried to confuse me as I am a newbee, and see if I told you my card. Probably you are mafia and want to kill a power role, and are trying to find it out. Or maybe you are villager and trying to find the power roles, but you started very bad in building relationship, trying to cheat me [b]skarni said:[/b] 06 Aug 2017, 20:46 by the way, I will accept your truce anyway. Give me your number, and I will give you mine. [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:19 I need to share my DM conversation. Villagers I think maybe we have got something here: XXXX wote: Alright I am writing to you because you are new, I don't know if you are in the mafia (King Queen or Jack) or village (the rest of the numbers) but I am a vanillager and have no powers however am very experienced mafia player and want to help the village win. If you are in the village please tell me your number, if not then make it up. If you have any questions please ask me and I'll be able to help you and IF you're mafia please don't kill me, your priority is killing the inspector as he can find you out. IF you are inspector let me be your voice and you could inspect me if you like but I think it is a waste of time I answered: I really do appreciate your help. Iam not very familiar with the inspector rol and also the doctor role. And late but not your least, i would like to know your card also before telling you mine. XXX wrote: that statement slightly scares me. Your the only one who has asked such a direct question. I refuse to tell you my number for this reason. That has made me highly suspicious of you. If you are mafia then you would want me to tell you my number then you could make up one that isn't the same number. I know that I am vanillager but I'm not giving you a get out of jail free card if your mafia. I answered: How can you write this: "Finally, that statement slightly scares me. Your the only one who has asked such a direct question. " Just after writing this on your first post: If you are in the village please tell me your number, In spain we have a phrase for that: You catch a liar before than a lame XXX wrote: Man, I forgot I asked this. Let's call it a truce. Do you think it is normal from a villager? I really think that was a mafa player trying to cheat me as it was my first game [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:20 i have psoted that. I think that u are mafia. [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:21 i will post that i meant, i would like your explanation and card not to do that. i will tel you mine as i said [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:25 Please Skarni, you're missing things out, You are forgeting the fact that I am highly convinced that you are sheriff or mafia. If you sent this to EVERYONE then I will show EVERYONE the whole convosation and that you were HIDING things for YOUR benifit. That is a very MAFIAish move. [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:26 u can show the full conversation, no trouble [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:31 Anyway, I sent it to quite a few people beforehand anyway. We did a tirangle check and none of ours matched. To be honest, I was trying to catch you out as mafia. I have 3 people's numbers and need to know if yours fits. Your putting me under pressure but now I am returning it. [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:32 I have 3 people numbers also. Why should you capitalize the peolpes numbers and not me? Why must I trust you and u cannot trust me? u asked first my number, and then turned mad when i asked yours [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:33 Also you avoided all my suspions about you being Sheriff which means you don't want to reveal my role to everyone. I know you are either Sheriff or Mafia but I'm leaning towards Sheriff [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:36 I took all out except our lie about telling the number. I didnt reveal your name because i am not sure of waht you are, even i dont like you tried to cheat me, [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:39 by the way, i talked with the other 3 numbers we got, and it is more clear to us you are mafia. so lets see on the day voting, u have plenty of numbers to be lynched. [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:50 I'm willing to create a number triangle with you and a member of my number triangle. I don't want to add anyone else who it isn't nessasary to add to it. However we all need to be active at the same time to prevent mafia interference which isn't now. [b]skarni said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, 13:54 ok [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, [b]13:55[/b] I've sent a message to them to see which one is up for it. [b]Madagascarter said:[/b] 07 Aug 2017, [b]15:48[/b] Alright, I'm Doc Sygmassacre said: 05 Aug 2017, 12:31 The 8 of Spades madgascarter, You are the doctor in the Spade Realm. You are completely loyal to the ruler, the Ace of Spades so you have committed an oath to serve and defend him. During the night you can “Protect” someone. If they are targeted by the mafia or sheriff that night they are not eliminated from the game. You win when all the mafia are eliminated.

LYNCH MADAGASCARTER

I would like to take a moment to emphasize just how stupid it is to claim doc to someone you haven't 100% cleared, for no apparent reason, [b]unless you're mafia and have nothing to lose because you know you're going to get lynched either day one or two.[/b]

[quote=Sygmassacre]<snip> Amongst the villagers are 3 cards with power roles. The Sheriff has a one time night shot from Night 1. The Inspector can seek out the role of one player every night phase and the [b]Doctor can heal[/b] one person every night phase if the person they choose has been targeted for elimination. <snip>[/quote] First post on this thread. Syg is consistent with saying "heal".

There just seems to be constant inconsistency and deception with Madag's story regarding his role. Personally, it doesn't make sense to me for the doctor to draw all of this attention to himself to just "find the inspector" especially for an experienced player such as Madag. While I agree it might be better to have the sheriff shoot him, how do we know for sure that the sheriff went ahead and did it? I think Madag just got caught in a web of lies and went to the last resort of claiming to be doctor in hopes of getting the real doctor to reveal themselves to counterpoint him. That way the Mafia would pretty much eliminate the real doctor out of the game if they came forward. He couldn't pretend to be inspector because then he would have to prove himself without wasting the sheriff's ability by telling people their roles exactly as they are so he went to the next best thing and attempt to be a doctor. which is much harder to prove without having the real sheriff (I think it's probably Ultra, but can't be 100% sure) waste a bullet.

[quote=Mayba]There just seems to be constant inconsistency and deception with Madag's story regarding his role. Personally, it doesn't make sense to me for the doctor to draw all of this attention to himself to just "find the inspector" especially for an experienced player such as Madag. While I agree it might be better to have the sheriff shoot him, how do we know for sure that the sheriff went ahead and did it? I think Madag just got caught in a web of lies and went to the last resort of claiming to be doctor in hopes of getting the real doctor to reveal themselves to counterpoint him. That way the Mafia would pretty much eliminate the real doctor out of the game if they came forward. He couldn't pretend to be inspector because then he would have to prove himself without wasting the sheriff's ability by telling people their roles exactly as they are so he went to the next best thing and attempt to be a doctor. which is much harder to prove without having the real sheriff (I think it's probably Ultra, but can't be 100% sure) waste a bullet. [/quote] Actually, we do have a doctor counterclaim. We're not revealing who it is.

Mayba you are correct on your reasons ambout madag. Thats why is no sense to wait and waste the bullet with madag. Is better to lynch him first, to avoid to lynch the sheriff and the real doctor, and to use the bullet properly.

#lynch Madagascarter