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MuzuaneAskari wrote:
Lifeinpixels, now tha you are testing the gameplay, why don't you try with 3 pairs (or 4). I think it's funnier than just 4 players in a game.

The other think I will like to ask: how many.players in a team? I still like the idea of 4 team members; doing so we would be watching the other games and supporting our teammates (I liked the debates we had in our mails), and on top of this we can make different pairs on every round according the rivals we will play against.
Gato que avanza, Perro que ladra
Matty wrote:
I advice trying 2 pairs for now.

If the order is not ABAB, than its either AABB, and both teams have an advantage and a disadvantage.

If you do more pairs, it could be like ACABBC, in which team B has an advantage, but team A and C do not have that.
"Strength doesn't lie in numbers, strength doesn't lie in wealth. Strength lies in nights of peaceful slumbers." ~Maria
MuzuaneAskari wrote:
You are right Matty, I haven't thought in te order of the players.

But what you said about AABB or ABAB the first optiom is much worse; not only because in a map where you start your first reinforcement with 4/5 troops probably one of the players of second team will have a smaller bonus but also because it wouldn't be so strange that the first team will hold a.continent in the first turn (one of the players can make an attack.in tthe continent to make easier the conquer and then move to protect the border; it's just an example).
Gato que avanza, Perro que ladra
lifeinpixels wrote:
We've only tested on the classic map so far but it is harder than you might think to secure a continent, besides the already easy Aussie and SA.

So far, I don't think the AABB games have been unfair. We've finished 3 games, 2 of which had this style, and both teams were able to use their back to back turns equally.

Muzuane, I like your four player team idea. I think this first tournament should have only 2 teams per game for the reasons Matty stated, but during this time I can test out 3+ teams per game.

As soon as test game 4 wraps up, I'll start sign ups for the tournament.
The_Bishop wrote:
To be punctilious, those games were ABBA, still a bit different in my opinion from AABB. (May be?)
Btw I would love to try a 2v2 game, I don't mind what the turn order is. Here it looks like you are going to build a tournament, but I only want to try a couple of games! Is it possible? Somebody wants? Can I ask an Admin or Programmer to correctly divide the points between the winners?
«God doesn't play dice with the World» ~ Albert Einstein
aeronautic wrote:
Can an admin do me a favour and delete posts 176, 177 & 178, they have no part to play in this forum.... apparently!
Hyd yn oed er fy mod Cymraeg , dim ond yn siarad Saesneg, felly yr wyf yn gobeithio y bydd y cyfieithu yn gywir.
Thorpe wrote:
You want to hear something funny aeronautic...176, 177 & 178 have parts in this forum.

Is not posts 182-185 on the same subject with the same team taking turns right after the other? Plus the why do the "Test Games"? 
I thought this is for team points not for the players.
95.5% of the time you kill a players cap before your 2nd turn in... you fail or die next
lifeinpixels wrote:
I'm sorry that I haven't had time yet to get this thing organized. I will make an announcement within the next couple of days.
aeronautic wrote:
@Thorpe Precisely! I posted 176,7&8 and 182-185 are after it, other posters had replies to the same questions I had raised previously and had no acknowledgement from!

Plus, I was offering my services, again no acknowledgement!
I didn't realise that Thorpe had made the same offer of services, which explains the disregard, so I hereby relinquish any offer of services!

Before I go, I have tested my own 2v2 (twice) and got valuable info from it... I now totally agree with lifeinpixels. If I had, had my way with the points I would have killed some very tactical games. I proved that the first player to go out could be the result of team killing besides arranged suicide and it is still possible for the 1 remaining player to win the game even though the other team are now, as you all put it AAB.
We also had a game where the dice were bad for BB for 2 turns at the beginning and AA grew too powerful to stop immediately as a result. Use the debrief for tactical thought people, as anything is possible in team games! there is lots more feedback, but would be blah blah right now.

You won't see another annoying post from me here.
See you all in the games.
Hyd yn oed er fy mod Cymraeg , dim ond yn siarad Saesneg, felly yr wyf yn gobeithio y bydd y cyfieithu yn gywir.
Thorpe wrote:
aeronautic
Plus, I was offering my services, again no acknowledgement!
I didn't realise that Thorpe had made the same offer of services, which explains the disregard, so I hereby relinquish any offer of services!
Really? You do not get off that easy! I was going to use you. And of all the players, you should know once you put "ink" to it ...it can be used against you. I am not always quick to say anything...so I am taking you up on your offer.

On this game type ...there is really no-one that is the final say and if you want to do something ...just do it. lifeinpixels is taking charge of set-ups by default...he just did it and now look at all that he has to do. Careful what you ask for ... you might get it.

aeronautic is now in charge of setting up the board for the ranking of the teams...congrads!
95.5% of the time you kill a players cap before your 2nd turn in... you fail or die next
Thorpe wrote:
aeronautic  get some thicker skin...it took a long time for elysium5 to get on staff, they forgot he offered it.
95.5% of the time you kill a players cap before your 2nd turn in... you fail or die next
elysium5 wrote:
aeronautic, you have to have a more balanced approach to handling things...

A prime example of the thicker skin you need:

Spoiler (click to show)

You were back the next day with no regard or apology for the temper tantrum you threw. You need to have more patience and understand that your input is important and is taken seriously. It might not get recognition right away but it does eventually. Take a deep breath and regroup. All suggestions are considered and thoroughly discussed.
"Bad Deadpool... Good Deadpool!"
The_Bishop wrote:
This is sad! Aeronautic is a very active person. I mean he works, plays, comments on forum, organizes games and speaks with his family all in the same time. You have no time to think, he has already done. Just an example, we delayed weeks to test these team games, he organized team games live in one day! I hope to see you back Aero!

That being said. I was in some of those games Aero is referring to. They were VERY funny!! Strategy is much more complex than a normal deathmatch. If played live then you need to set the timer on 7 minutes so that you have time enough to decide the strategy with your mate. Better if your mate is a player of the same rank which you trust in. Would be awesome to have one more tab with "private chat" because private messages are not very comfortable for the use.

The turn order is important but not so much in 2v2. I mean, an alternated order would be better but in case it is not the game is still playable and even more complex: you'll have to plan very accurately your moves because then your opponents will have 2 turns in a row. In my opinion it is TOP PRIORITY for the site to implement this! Consider also the social effect of team games that creates new friendships inside the site.
«God doesn't play dice with the World» ~ Albert Einstein
elysium5 wrote:
I didn't say areonautic is done. Even though he said he was, he is not. It was a reaction series of comments.
I'm just trying to say...'keep your cool, dude!'
"Bad Deadpool... Good Deadpool!"
aeronautic wrote:
NP both... I know! Me and the Wife were just discussing it... my heart rate is "Marathon Runner" slow and blood pressure rock bottom of normal always (47 years) and when poked, prodded, ignored or provoked..... BAM! LOL sorry all, it's my nature and, yes I am trying to change it....
Send me the Team Names (members of for now), Fixtures Arranged & Start Dates and I will put the Table together.
Sygmassacre & aeronautic = "DeathFromAbove"
I'm sure I heard Thorpe say he'll make avatars for the teams?
I will use my own server to post them and give the link to all involved, plus post it regularly in the Lobby.

Have you decided if there will be a Final and Play Off for 3rd? Or just result in the top 3 of the table winning 1st, 2nd and 3rd?

Have you settled on a points system? What is it to be?
Hyd yn oed er fy mod Cymraeg , dim ond yn siarad Saesneg, felly yr wyf yn gobeithio y bydd y cyfieithu yn gywir.