Mafia D12 Style GAME THREAD

Hi all, I have to go to a work function for much of the day so will only be able to check in by phone. I have not had an opportunity yet to sift through the last four pages of forum chat. I shall endeavor to be caught up before the vote gets counted. At this time I am considering all options. I will not miss the vote, but I want to read thoroughly before I make one.

Current Lynch Count 75% through the phase: 0 for Jacob -[s] KC321[/s] 1 for Bluegoetz - Mada [b]6[/b] for Ryomyr - Jacob, Thick, Ely, Anuorre, Crywolf, Notoriouspat 1 for TLM - [s]Anuorre[/s], Mac 0 for Thick - [s]Ryomyr[/s] 1 for Ely - Ryomyr 5 Yet to Vote: TLM, Rock, [i]Anax,[/i] Blue,[i] KC321[/i] With all this gun fire someone is sure to die. Uhh... wait we only have a rope.

[quote=Rockbert]Hi all, I have to go to a work function for much of the day so will only be able to check in by phone. I have not had an opportunity yet to sift through the last four pages of forum chat. I shall endeavor to be caught up before the vote gets counted. At this time I am considering all options. I will not miss the vote, but I want to read thoroughly before I make one. [/quote] rock is on the radar.

[quote=Ryomyr]Okay, I am going public with all of my information. [b] I will give you my UNEDITED AND NOTHING OMITTED ROLE PM FIRST[/b] [quote]Message: Ryomyr Role PM MD12S From: 2ofclubs To: Ryomyr 2ofclubs said: 21 Nov 2023, 16:22 2. Ryomyr ROLE: Gray Neutral Unranked aka Dice with no card. ABILITIES: Not used at the same time: 1. During the Day (2x) Select a card color for a PM consisting of up to moderator selected 4 random players with that card for that phase (you can not duplicate colors). You will also be given what factions are in the group but not the player linked to it. 2. A 1x Day to #RESTRICT a card color causing there action to have nill response for the next night phase (it will consist of up to 2 random players). 3. Night 1x ability, Select Fog option to cancel night activity of Mafia Dominator. 4. Night 1x ability, Select Fog option to cancel day vote or ability of Town Dominator. Randomly slected if applicable. WC: You win when Town and Mafi Dominators are eliminated - you must be alive. NOTE: You need to identify your faction members. PM me with the correct answer to receive a Faction PM (only 3 chances). A shot only wounds you inactive for the next phase. A double shot in a phase will kill you.[/quote] As you can see, I am on my own for a win. I HAVE TO BE ALIVE. ... [b]IF THICK IS NOT MAFIA THEN MY LIST OF MAFIA IS DOWN TO 3/4 KNOWN MAFIA. IF JACOB AND THICK ARE NOT MAFIA THEN I CAN NAME 3 MAFIA WITHOUT QUESTION.[/b] Based on Anax's press release above, Thick in not mafia so ... [b]#UNLUNCH Thicktalon [/b] [/quote] If I am reading this right. Ryo can only die for sure by lynch, shooting him at night will only injure him. You are mad powerful. Would have been a fun role for sure. I hear you KC with what you are saying that we should keep him around, and I am not against it, just that Ryo has been such a disrupter it is hard not to eliminate. One of my original points was to take out Ryo due to his Fog ability but if his role is truly not altered his fog ability may be gone. there may be more with the Fog ability as both Ryo and TLM have the "2x call a meeting ability" To MY KNOWLEDGE ONLY @ MEETINGS HAVE BEEN CALLED, why was there not one last night? (between the 2 there are 2 meetings left. For this reason I feel one is lying. TLM's ability came out first so it is possible RYO copied and pasted in to his "unedited" role above. Sorry for the rant just thoughts on a screen. At this time my Lynch vote remains the same.

I'm counting 3 PMs that have occurred: 1. Red Card D1 (Mada, TLM, Jacob) 2. Red Card D2 (Mada, Ryo, KC, Jacob) 3. IDK Card N2 maybe? (TLM, Ely, Thick, Mac) I might have missed one

[quote=Jacob24]I'm counting 3 PMs that have occurred: 1. Red Card D1 (Mada, TLM, Jacob) 2. Red Card D2 (Mada, Ryo, KC, Jacob) 3. IDK Card N2 maybe? (TLM, Ely, Thick, Mac) I might have missed one[/quote] I need to read better.... Ok so Ryo had the day chat and Tenn had the night chat. [b]Was anyone in a chat last night?[/b]

[quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr][quote=Jacob24][quote=2ofclubs][quote=Madagascarter]Am I right in assuming that no-one has died yet?[/quote] Amazingly yes. There was 1 action last night that pretty much fubar all the strategies in a domino effect. I may have to do a Mod kill. Once you get the scent of blood you will run or thirst for more. Wait this isn't vampire mafia.[/quote] Can someone help by analyzing this? I’m logging off. [b]I want answers from Ryo.[/b] Something concrete this time, no bs[/quote] [b]Okay, can everyone reference the post that I gave Jacob ALL of the answers he wanted? Literally. I am done trying to work with Jacob, townies.[/b] I need a new town rep to try to build a relationship with. We don't even need a large voting block at this point. I am not stuck on Mr. Talon, but I would be willing to stake my life on the fact that Thicktalon is most likely mafia. I am not a dummy. I[b] can't give town my whole list. [/b] I need to roll it out slowly. [u][b]Spoiler alert!! ThickTalon is on the list.[/b][/u] [/quote] Yes, please do. I'll even attach it below so that all townies can see: [spoiler][quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr]Ely, can please send me a concise list of your questions? I will answer honestly in about 4 hours from now. (Unless I die.)[/quote] Time to make good Ryo [quote=Jacob24][quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr]Jacob: [quote]I do want to Ryo. Partly because as strange as it seems, it seems like you want to help town and build cohesion more than most "confirmed" town members. The thing is, I can't think of any actual information you've given town. We've gotten a lot of ideas and potentials, but nothing solid. You're also ignoring questions posed to you. I'll ask directly here, if you ignore then I'm probably done working with you: 1. Do you have a faction working with you? [b](I am part of a neutral faction. As in past games, not all neutrals share the same WC.)[/b] 2. How are you getting the information and lists you claim to have? [b] (I had the ability to form the PM chat that many of you participated in. The moderator provided additional info to me as part of my ability.)[/b] 3. What cards do you have? [b](As per earlier post, I have no cards.)[/b][/quote] Now, if anything seems fishy there, let me know. I will tell you that I omitted certain information while I was under the gun from Anax at the very beginning of the game. I have been on the hot seat the whole time. [u][b]I was most definitely trying to save myself.[/b][/u][/quote] [/quote] 1. You dodged that question quite nicely. I understand how neutrals work, but your WC says that your faction can win without you. 2. You claim to have multiple lists, can you share 1 list with the number of mafia attached. I understand holding some data to keep yourself useful to town, but I need something more than vague assurances 3. You claim no cards but were in a Red Card PM night 2 - any idea how?[/quote][/quote] [/spoiler] Your answers lead to more questions. You live on confusion. You play to win and you've done well so far, but it ends today. Evidence against Ryo: 1. He is (at best) a neutral whose win condition requires him to kill all townies 2. In post 541, in his comments on my list of townies I trust, he claimed there was only a 25% chance that Thick is town, based on some ability that he never shared with the town. Since then, Thick has been confirmed town by Anax in posts 640 and 642. 3. He has been holding a "list of names" over our heads but won't give us any concrete evidence. In fact, the main name on his list just got proven as town. 4. When asked if he has a faction with him, he said: "I am part of a neutral faction. As in past games, not all neutrals share the same WC." I know I'm not the only one who sees that this is a deflection, leading me to believe that Ryo does have a faction actively supporting him (whether neutral or mafia) and is thus far more dangerous to the town. 5. Claims no cards but was in a PM group specifically for people with Red Cards - KC and Mada can confirm: [spoiler]Message: RED card PM for day 2 From: 2ofclubs To: Madagascarter, Ryomyr, KC321, Jacob24 2ofclubs said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:00 pm Open now and until end of Day 2. You can refer to and share contents but not use PM for communication when closed. Thread was created from a used ability - order of recipients is not reflective of requester or even if he/she is in this PM. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:25 pm Who knows what?! 2ofclubs said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:29 pm I know all - but pay no attn to the babbler behind the curtain scene :P :D Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:59 pm Oh boy, here we go again. Mada - 9/10 he is town KC - No clue honestly Ryo - Just admitted he is neutral and wants to kill us all Jacob - Town ofc Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 06:02 pm Mada and I were in the last PM, which was also a Red Card PM if you didn’t figure that out yet. Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 06:05 pm I don’t think we can use this for much since Ryo can read it all unless we lynch him today KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 07:52 pm Lynch ryo? Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 07:55 pm The way I see it, was have three options: 1. Agree to work with Ryo somewhat and use this chat 2. Agree to lynch Ryo and use this chat 3. Don’t use this chat Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 08:07 pm Mada, what are your thoughts? I see you're online atm Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 08:58 pm Nobody said anything so I put my reasoning for lynching ryo in the main chat. KC can you share your WC? If you do and it looks good I'll share some more with you about our last board meeting. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:15 pm Nah, I’m good. I don’t trust the board Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:25 pm Fair enough, can't argue with that Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:26 pm Wish you'd give it a shot though. We're on limited time and you've contributed nothing really. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:48 pm There are so many moving parts that the board is no more trustworthy than I am. 2ofclubs said: 27 Nov 2023, 12:01 am PM NOW CLOSED - DO NOT USE[/spoiler] Mafia will want to keep him alive to keep the spotlight off of them. If you're town, it's time to rid our town of this nuisance once and for all. I trust Rock, Anax, Crywolf, Anuorre, and I need your votes here. Ely, Blue, Mada, and Mac, you're on the fence right now. Prove your loyalty to town today. TLM and KC, if you're town you better have some good explanations coming. I've done more for town than anyone else this game. I asked for a leader and found none. This is what I have for you. [b]#Lynch Ryomyr[/b][/quote] Well, I already voted for Ryo...

[quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr][quote=Jacob24][quote=2ofclubs][quote=Madagascarter]Am I right in assuming that no-one has died yet?[/quote] Amazingly yes. There was 1 action last night that pretty much fubar all the strategies in a domino effect. I may have to do a Mod kill. Once you get the scent of blood you will run or thirst for more. Wait this isn't vampire mafia.[/quote] Can someone help by analyzing this? I’m logging off. [b]I want answers from Ryo.[/b] Something concrete this time, no bs[/quote] [b]Okay, can everyone reference the post that I gave Jacob ALL of the answers he wanted? Literally. I am done trying to work with Jacob, townies.[/b] I need a new town rep to try to build a relationship with. We don't even need a large voting block at this point. I am not stuck on Mr. Talon, but I would be willing to stake my life on the fact that Thicktalon is most likely mafia. I am not a dummy. I[b] can't give town my whole list. [/b] I need to roll it out slowly. [u][b]Spoiler alert!! ThickTalon is on the list.[/b][/u] [/quote] Yes, please do. I'll even attach it below so that all townies can see: [spoiler][quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr]Ely, can please send me a concise list of your questions? I will answer honestly in about 4 hours from now. (Unless I die.)[/quote] Time to make good Ryo [quote=Jacob24][quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr]Jacob: [quote]I do want to Ryo. Partly because as strange as it seems, it seems like you want to help town and build cohesion more than most "confirmed" town members. The thing is, I can't think of any actual information you've given town. We've gotten a lot of ideas and potentials, but nothing solid. You're also ignoring questions posed to you. I'll ask directly here, if you ignore then I'm probably done working with you: 1. Do you have a faction working with you? [b](I am part of a neutral faction. As in past games, not all neutrals share the same WC.)[/b] 2. How are you getting the information and lists you claim to have? [b] (I had the ability to form the PM chat that many of you participated in. The moderator provided additional info to me as part of my ability.)[/b] 3. What cards do you have? [b](As per earlier post, I have no cards.)[/b][/quote] Now, if anything seems fishy there, let me know. I will tell you that I omitted certain information while I was under the gun from Anax at the very beginning of the game. I have been on the hot seat the whole time. [u][b]I was most definitely trying to save myself.[/b][/u][/quote] [/quote] 1. You dodged that question quite nicely. I understand how neutrals work, but your WC says that your faction can win without you. 2. You claim to have multiple lists, can you share 1 list with the number of mafia attached. I understand holding some data to keep yourself useful to town, but I need something more than vague assurances 3. You claim no cards but were in a Red Card PM night 2 - any idea how?[/quote][/quote] [/spoiler] Your answers lead to more questions. You live on confusion. You play to win and you've done well so far, but it ends today. Evidence against Ryo: 1. He is (at best) a neutral whose win condition requires him to kill all townies 2. In post 541, in his comments on my list of townies I trust, he claimed there was only a 25% chance that Thick is town, based on some ability that he never shared with the town. Since then, Thick has been confirmed town by Anax in posts 640 and 642. 3. He has been holding a "list of names" over our heads but won't give us any concrete evidence. In fact, the main name on his list just got proven as town. 4. When asked if he has a faction with him, he said: "I am part of a neutral faction. As in past games, not all neutrals share the same WC." I know I'm not the only one who sees that this is a deflection, leading me to believe that Ryo does have a faction actively supporting him (whether neutral or mafia) and is thus far more dangerous to the town. 5. Claims no cards but was in a PM group specifically for people with Red Cards - KC and Mada can confirm: [spoiler]Message: RED card PM for day 2 From: 2ofclubs To: Madagascarter, Ryomyr, KC321, Jacob24 2ofclubs said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:00 pm Open now and until end of Day 2. You can refer to and share contents but not use PM for communication when closed. Thread was created from a used ability - order of recipients is not reflective of requester or even if he/she is in this PM. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:25 pm Who knows what?! 2ofclubs said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:29 pm I know all - but pay no attn to the babbler behind the curtain scene :P :D Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:59 pm Oh boy, here we go again. Mada - 9/10 he is town KC - No clue honestly Ryo - Just admitted he is neutral and wants to kill us all Jacob - Town ofc Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 06:02 pm Mada and I were in the last PM, which was also a Red Card PM if you didn’t figure that out yet. Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 06:05 pm I don’t think we can use this for much since Ryo can read it all unless we lynch him today KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 07:52 pm Lynch ryo? Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 07:55 pm The way I see it, was have three options: 1. Agree to work with Ryo somewhat and use this chat 2. Agree to lynch Ryo and use this chat 3. Don’t use this chat Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 08:07 pm Mada, what are your thoughts? I see you're online atm Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 08:58 pm Nobody said anything so I put my reasoning for lynching ryo in the main chat. KC can you share your WC? If you do and it looks good I'll share some more with you about our last board meeting. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:15 pm Nah, I’m good. I don’t trust the board Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:25 pm Fair enough, can't argue with that Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:26 pm Wish you'd give it a shot though. We're on limited time and you've contributed nothing really. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:48 pm There are so many moving parts that the board is no more trustworthy than I am. 2ofclubs said: 27 Nov 2023, 12:01 am PM NOW CLOSED - DO NOT USE[/spoiler] Mafia will want to keep him alive to keep the spotlight off of them. If you're town, it's time to rid our town of this nuisance once and for all. I trust Rock, Anax, Crywolf, Anuorre, and I need your votes here. Ely, Blue, Mada, and Mac, you're on the fence right now. Prove your loyalty to town today. TLM and KC, if you're town you better have some good explanations coming. I've done more for town than anyone else this game. I asked for a leader and found none. This is what I have for you. [b]#Lynch Ryomyr[/b][/quote] Well, I already voted for Ryo...[quote=Ryomyr]Okay, I am going public with all of my information. [b] I will give you my UNEDITED AND NOTHING OMITTED ROLE PM FIRST[/b] [quote]Message: Ryomyr Role PM MD12S From: 2ofclubs To: Ryomyr 2ofclubs said: 21 Nov 2023, 16:22 2. Ryomyr ROLE: Gray Neutral Unranked aka Dice with no card. ABILITIES: Not used at the same time: 1. During the Day (2x) Select a card color for a PM consisting of up to moderator selected 4 random players with that card for that phase (you can not duplicate colors). You will also be given what factions are in the group but not the player linked to it. 2. A 1x Day to #RESTRICT a card color causing there action to have nill response for the next night phase (it will consist of up to 2 random players). 3. Night 1x ability, Select Fog option to cancel night activity of Mafia Dominator. 4. Night 1x ability, Select Fog option to cancel day vote or ability of Town Dominator. Randomly slected if applicable. WC: You win when Town and Mafi Dominators are eliminated - you must be alive. [size=16px]NOTE: You need to identify your faction members.[/size] PM me with the correct answer to receive a Faction PM (only 3 chances). A shot only wounds you inactive for the next phase. A double shot in a phase will kill you.[/quote] As you can see, I am on my own for a win. I HAVE TO BE ALIVE. ... [b]IF THICK IS NOT MAFIA THEN MY LIST OF MAFIA IS DOWN TO 3/4 KNOWN MAFIA. IF JACOB AND THICK ARE NOT MAFIA THEN I CAN NAME 3 MAFIA WITHOUT QUESTION.[/b] Based on Anax's press release above, Thick in not mafia so ... [b]#UNLUNCH Thicktalon [/b] [/quote] Heads up, this implies at least 2 other neutrals...no wonder he's trying to say alive so bad. That's too many to risk keeping a known one around.

[quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr][quote=Jacob24][quote=2ofclubs][quote=Madagascarter]Am I right in assuming that no-one has died yet?[/quote] Amazingly yes. There was 1 action last night that pretty much fubar all the strategies in a domino effect. I may have to do a Mod kill. Once you get the scent of blood you will run or thirst for more. Wait this isn't vampire mafia.[/quote] Can someone help by analyzing this? I’m logging off. [b]I want answers from Ryo.[/b] Something concrete this time, no bs[/quote] [b]Okay, can everyone reference the post that I gave Jacob ALL of the answers he wanted? Literally. I am done trying to work with Jacob, townies.[/b] I need a new town rep to try to build a relationship with. We don't even need a large voting block at this point. I am not stuck on Mr. Talon, but I would be willing to stake my life on the fact that Thicktalon is most likely mafia. I am not a dummy. I[b] can't give town my whole list. [/b] I need to roll it out slowly. [u][b]Spoiler alert!! ThickTalon is on the list.[/b][/u] [/quote] Yes, please do. I'll even attach it below so that all townies can see: [spoiler][quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr]Ely, can please send me a concise list of your questions? I will answer honestly in about 4 hours from now. (Unless I die.)[/quote] Time to make good Ryo [quote=Jacob24][quote=Jacob24][quote=Ryomyr]Jacob: [quote]I do want to Ryo. Partly because as strange as it seems, it seems like you want to help town and build cohesion more than most "confirmed" town members. The thing is, I can't think of any actual information you've given town. We've gotten a lot of ideas and potentials, but nothing solid. You're also ignoring questions posed to you. I'll ask directly here, if you ignore then I'm probably done working with you: 1. Do you have a faction working with you? [b](I am part of a neutral faction. As in past games, not all neutrals share the same WC.)[/b] 2. How are you getting the information and lists you claim to have? [b] (I had the ability to form the PM chat that many of you participated in. The moderator provided additional info to me as part of my ability.)[/b] 3. What cards do you have? [b](As per earlier post, I have no cards.)[/b][/quote] Now, if anything seems fishy there, let me know. I will tell you that I omitted certain information while I was under the gun from Anax at the very beginning of the game. I have been on the hot seat the whole time. [u][b]I was most definitely trying to save myself.[/b][/u][/quote] [/quote] 1. You dodged that question quite nicely. I understand how neutrals work, but your WC says that your faction can win without you. 2. You claim to have multiple lists, can you share 1 list with the number of mafia attached. I understand holding some data to keep yourself useful to town, but I need something more than vague assurances 3. You claim no cards but were in a Red Card PM night 2 - any idea how?[/quote][/quote] [/spoiler] Your answers lead to more questions. You live on confusion. You play to win and you've done well so far, but it ends today. Evidence against Ryo: 1. He is (at best) a neutral whose win condition requires him to kill all townies 2. In post 541, in his comments on my list of townies I trust, he claimed there was only a 25% chance that Thick is town, based on some ability that he never shared with the town. Since then, Thick has been confirmed town by Anax in posts 640 and 642. 3. He has been holding a "list of names" over our heads but won't give us any concrete evidence. In fact, the main name on his list just got proven as town. 4. When asked if he has a faction with him, he said: "I am part of a neutral faction. As in past games, not all neutrals share the same WC." I know I'm not the only one who sees that this is a deflection, leading me to believe that Ryo does have a faction actively supporting him (whether neutral or mafia) and is thus far more dangerous to the town. 5. Claims no cards but was in a PM group specifically for people with Red Cards - KC and Mada can confirm: [spoiler]Message: RED card PM for day 2 From: 2ofclubs To: Madagascarter, Ryomyr, KC321, Jacob24 2ofclubs said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:00 pm Open now and until end of Day 2. You can refer to and share contents but not use PM for communication when closed. Thread was created from a used ability - order of recipients is not reflective of requester or even if he/she is in this PM. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:25 pm Who knows what?! 2ofclubs said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:29 pm I know all - but pay no attn to the babbler behind the curtain scene :P :D Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 05:59 pm Oh boy, here we go again. Mada - 9/10 he is town KC - No clue honestly Ryo - Just admitted he is neutral and wants to kill us all Jacob - Town ofc Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 06:02 pm Mada and I were in the last PM, which was also a Red Card PM if you didn’t figure that out yet. Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 06:05 pm I don’t think we can use this for much since Ryo can read it all unless we lynch him today KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 07:52 pm Lynch ryo? Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 07:55 pm The way I see it, was have three options: 1. Agree to work with Ryo somewhat and use this chat 2. Agree to lynch Ryo and use this chat 3. Don’t use this chat Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 08:07 pm Mada, what are your thoughts? I see you're online atm Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 08:58 pm Nobody said anything so I put my reasoning for lynching ryo in the main chat. KC can you share your WC? If you do and it looks good I'll share some more with you about our last board meeting. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:15 pm Nah, I’m good. I don’t trust the board Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:25 pm Fair enough, can't argue with that Jacob24 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:26 pm Wish you'd give it a shot though. We're on limited time and you've contributed nothing really. KC321 said: 26 Nov 2023, 09:48 pm There are so many moving parts that the board is no more trustworthy than I am. 2ofclubs said: 27 Nov 2023, 12:01 am PM NOW CLOSED - DO NOT USE[/spoiler] Mafia will want to keep him alive to keep the spotlight off of them. If you're town, it's time to rid our town of this nuisance once and for all. I trust Rock, Anax, Crywolf, Anuorre, and I need your votes here. Ely, Blue, Mada, and Mac, you're on the fence right now. Prove your loyalty to town today. TLM and KC, if you're town you better have some good explanations coming. I've done more for town than anyone else this game. I asked for a leader and found none. This is what I have for you. [b]#Lynch Ryomyr[/b][/quote] Well, I already voted for Ryo...[quote=Ryomyr]Okay, I am going public with all of my information. [b] I will give you my UNEDITED AND NOTHING OMITTED ROLE PM FIRST[/b] [quote]Message: Ryomyr Role PM MD12S From: 2ofclubs To: Ryomyr 2ofclubs said: 21 Nov 2023, 16:22 2. Ryomyr ROLE: Gray Neutral Unranked aka Dice with no card. ABILITIES: Not used at the same time: 1. During the Day (2x) Select a card color for a PM consisting of up to moderator selected 4 random players with that card for that phase (you can not duplicate colors). You will also be given what factions are in the group but not the player linked to it. 2. A 1x Day to #RESTRICT a card color causing there action to have nill response for the next night phase (it will consist of up to 2 random players). 3. Night 1x ability, Select Fog option to cancel night activity of Mafia Dominator. 4. Night 1x ability, Select Fog option to cancel day vote or ability of Town Dominator. Randomly slected if applicable. WC: You win when Town and Mafi Dominators are eliminated - you must be alive. [size=16px]NOTE: You need to identify your faction members.[/size] PM me with the correct answer to receive a Faction PM (only 3 chances). A shot only wounds you inactive for the next phase. A double shot in a phase will kill you.[/quote] As you can see, I am on my own for a win. I HAVE TO BE ALIVE. ... [b]IF THICK IS NOT MAFIA THEN MY LIST OF MAFIA IS DOWN TO 3/4 KNOWN MAFIA. IF JACOB AND THICK ARE NOT MAFIA THEN I CAN NAME 3 MAFIA WITHOUT QUESTION.[/b] Based on Anax's press release above, Thick in not mafia so ... [b]#UNLUNCH Thicktalon [/b] [/quote] Heads up, this implies at least 2 other neutrals...no wonder he's trying to say alive so bad. That's too many to risk keeping a known one around.[quote=Ryomyr]If town is 100% sure that Jacob and Thick are not mafia, then I can 100% assure you that Ely is mafia. [b][size=16px]#LUNCH ELYSIUM5[/size][/b][/quote] Clearly I'm coming for you but you aren't sure unless some others are sure and then you are 100 percent sure? Are these the same type of 100 percent sure's you are using to try and clear others? Come on now.

Not sure why my responses are grouping...

[quote=ThickTalon][quote=Jacob24]I'm counting 3 PMs that have occurred: 1. Red Card D1 (Mada, TLM, Jacob) 2. Red Card D2 (Mada, Ryo, KC, Jacob) 3. IDK Card N2 maybe? (TLM, Ely, Thick, Mac) I might have missed one[/quote] I need to read better.... Ok so Ryo had the day chat and Tenn had the night chat. [b]Was anyone in a chat last night?[/b][/quote] I was not put in a chat last night. I have only been put in the one earlier.

There was a chat day 3- me, rock, Ryo, anax

[quote=Bluegoetz]There was a chat day 3- me, rock, Ryo, anax[/quote] Can you share what went on? This could be important on the Ryo/Anax/TLM idea that Rock floated

I think that might have been mentioned actually, I remember this coming up earlier

[spoiler] From: 2ofclubs To: Anaxagore, Bluegoetz, Ryomyr, Rockbert Bluegoetz said: 28 Nov 2023, 19:47 I don’t have a read on tn this game. He has posted a little less, but not so much less. And without pm it’s harder to get read Ryomyr said: 28 Nov 2023, 20:05 The three of you should take the lead on a vote today. I will follow. I should be able to get back to a computer to change my vote, if need be. I have very useful intelligence that can help town and prolong my life for a day or two. Ryomyr said: 28 Nov 2023, 20:06 I can provide you intel in the forum when this chat is closed. Rockbert said: 28 Nov 2023, 20:53 okay, I am going to review the forum again and make a decision. Rockbert said: 28 Nov 2023, 20:57 Tennessee has been very silent for a long time. That is not like him. Anax, any thoughts on this and on who you intend to vote for? Bluegoetz said: 28 Nov 2023, 22:01 I feel like it’s fair to say(not insider information) but tn has been working this week. So not his usual armchair playing all day. But that doesn’t mean he’s good, or still not being too quiet. But there you have it. Ryomyr said: 28 Nov 2023, 22:18 Again, I am not certain on Crywolf as mafia. This is just based off on no night action and his continued lack of defense. Again, now Ely and Thick are backing off of Crywolf, very interesting. I suspect that they might be mafia. If the three of you can commit to voting with me two days in a row, I will promise to deliver usable information in the forum. (Usable for town) I will also promise to use my FOG ability when the three of you tell me to via the forum. I ask for two days of voting because of my lack of certainty about Crywolf. If Anax could share the PM (here in this chat) that Clubs delivered when he tried to use his ability last night, maybe we could get Crywolf to share a portion of his interaction with Clubs? IDK I am sticking Crywolf for now, with one more likely check in before the deadline. Rockbert said: 28 Nov 2023, 22:30 I think that's pretty sensible Ryo, about Anax sharing that info. Thanks Blue. Appreciate that. Rockbert said: 28 Nov 2023, 23:24 Alright, I am guessing that Anax may have been sidelined or something. Ryomyr said: 28 Nov 2023, 23:29 Rockbert, why not vote for Crywolf? Just curious. Since I have two votes one me, I need to be careful and make sure I can keep the count up on another player. Rockbert said: 28 Nov 2023, 23:38 because I believe he is town. Why don't you vote for Elysium? Ryomyr said: 28 Nov 2023, 23:40 I did!! Did it not post? Rockbert said: 28 Nov 2023, 23:40 I would do it again. it shows Crywolf still I think 2ofclubs said: 29 Nov 2023, 00:11 CLOSED[/spoiler] Not too much