superhero vs villain mafia game thread

[quote=Hoodlum]for those not in the know. Ryomyr + 2ofclubs = romeo & juliet from the romeo/juliet theme where they played a bold vocal calculated game to out last everyone (cept me, but that's another story :) ) it was romeo & juliets story after all. not this game[/quote] iT WAS A GREAT GAME. And I am glad we are all playing together again. TBH you played a GREAT game and it was work for us just like this game. That great excludes your D12 map playing but you do create great maps LOL just kidding --- seriously you are an honorable and worth player.

catching up on some reading, and thought i'd comment on this: [quote]jkl3699 wrote: Posted: Yesterday, 22:55 Modified: Yesterday, 22:56 Post #256 Ok, I just got through reading the forum and there is quite a bit of misdirection here. Why is 2ofclubs accusing me of being a villain? I don't even have abilities that could be considered those that a villain would use. I've also seen that he has misdirected many by fabricating false PMs and ability usages (which is legal, just didn't think that someone would be so blatant as to do it this early). For that I accuse 2ofclubs as a villain. #Lynch 2ofclubs[/quote] Saying you don't have any villain abilities is weak sauce arguement. we chose our abilities before we knew who's side we were on? I chose mine based on what I thought would help my team win. just an observation....till next time (Y)

[quote=Bluegoetz]catching up on some reading, and thought i'd comment on this: [quote]jkl3699 wrote: Posted: Yesterday, 22:55 Modified: Yesterday, 22:56 Post #256 Ok, I just got through reading the forum and there is quite a bit of misdirection here. Why is 2ofclubs accusing me of being a villain? I don't even have abilities that could be considered those that a villain would use. I've also seen that he has misdirected many by fabricating false PMs and ability usages (which is legal, just didn't think that someone would be so blatant as to do it this early). For that I accuse 2ofclubs as a villain. #Lynch 2ofclubs[/quote] Saying you don't have any villain abilities is weak sauce arguement. we chose our abilities before we knew who's side we were on? I chose mine based on what I thought would help my team win. just an observation....till next time (Y)[/quote] Clarification we chose are abilities after we knew our roles! [spoiler]Tennesseelogman said: 08 Dec 2021, 21:17 you are a superhero. [u]now that you know your role[/u] [b]you can send me your ability preferences[/b]/ranking. Still no chat in the forum until the game starts.[/spoiler]

hmm.... well that makes me look a little foolish. but i'd still say that there are not villain abilities, and they didn't know the team and who picked what abilities, so the point remains-what abilities you have don't determine if you are good or bad.

[quote=Bluegoetz]hmm.... well that makes me look a little foolish. but i'd still say that there are not villain abilities, and they didn't know the team and who picked what abilities, so the point remains-what abilities you have don't determine if you are good or bad.[/quote] Correct i.e. #2 xray ; mafia could use to determin ability threat since they already know you're a Hero. Hero would use to determine role, seeking out mafia and even ability to determine who to target given they had 2 or even 3 villains discovered. The kicker/fun is you can steal or bring back or counter (+ or - votes), inherit the abilities that there are a min of 4 of of each. etc

[quote=Bluegoetz]hmm.... well that makes me look a little foolish. but i'd still say that there are not villain abilities, and they didn't know the team and who picked what abilities, so the point remains-what abilities you have don't determine if you are good or bad.[/quote] Good point but don't forget, the original argument about Anax being mafia because he chose mafia-like abilities was used right from the beginning. It wasn't until later that it was 'added' that an additional 'alleged inspection' confirmed the original accusation. Now I am not saying these alleged inspections are false, just keeping the context in the forefront in case there is an unexpected reveal once the kills start happening. I am in no circle so EVERYTHING I have been told in private is not 100% for me as all my information is second hand at best. As I said to someone in a private chat, Baby it's cold outside...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7RMy7Vg0LU

Thanks for keeping it clear and not slinging mud and blowing smoke. Yes, the slow leak of inspections was to protect ability secret. But note the suspicion that inspired my inspection was from his presentation or lack of and content. Along with wanting to play a day 1 game with facts not speculations. In fact here is the PM that went down; Note: [i]we already new his ability but as I said, I wanted to play with facts 100% (no killing friendlies like in the past). And I did the inspection w/o Ryo knowing to also facilitate confirming his role 100%)[/i] 2ofclubs said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:49 Ok I am jumping: 2ofclubs said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:49 Use my...... ability on Anax. Tennesseelogman said: 11 Dec 2021, 20:14 anax is a villain Ryomyr said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:52 Dang, well I felt like we already knew that!!! I guess we know know for sure now! lol Alright, how do we get this guy when he has invincibility? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxx PS pretty much the same bases was used with Hood.*

[quote=2ofclubs]Thanks for keeping it clear and not slinging mud and blowing smoke. Yes, the slow leak of inspections was to protect ability secret. But note the suspicion that inspired my inspection was from his presentation or lack of and content. Along with wanting to play a day 1 game with facts not speculations. In fact here is the PM that went down; Note: [i]we already new his ability but as I said, I wanted to play with facts 100% (no killing friendlies like in the past). And I did the inspection w/o Ryo knowing to also facilitate confirming his role 100%)[/i] 2ofclubs said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:49 Ok I am jumping: 2ofclubs said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:49 Use my...... ability on Anax. Tennesseelogman said: 11 Dec 2021, 20:14 anax is a villain Ryomyr said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:52 Dang, well I felt like we already knew that!!! I guess we know know for sure now! lol Alright, how do we get this guy when he has invincibility? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxx PS pretty much the same bases was used with Hood.*[/quote] I am not here to throw unfounded shade. I'm here to win and I want to keep what I know straight. The fact is that I don't really know much and I suspect there are others who are not part of a group or privy to inside info that might feel the same way so I'm just trying to keep the conversation in check. Just like the 'slow down' comment I made about lynching. We must be smart about it.

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Bluegoetz]catching up on some reading, and thought i'd comment on this: [quote]jkl3699 wrote: Posted: Yesterday, 22:55 Modified: Yesterday, 22:56 Post #256 Ok, I just got through reading the forum and there is quite a bit of misdirection here. Why is 2ofclubs accusing me of being a villain? I don't even have abilities that could be considered those that a villain would use. I've also seen that he has misdirected many by fabricating false PMs and ability usages (which is legal, just didn't think that someone would be so blatant as to do it this early). For that I accuse 2ofclubs as a villain. #Lynch 2ofclubs[/quote] Saying you don't have any villain abilities is weak sauce arguement. we chose our abilities before we knew who's side we were on? I chose mine based on what I thought would help my team win. just an observation....till next time (Y)[/quote] [b][u]Clarification we chose are abilities after we knew our roles![/u][/b] [spoiler]Tennesseelogman said: 08 Dec 2021, 21:17 you are a superhero. [u]now that you know your role[/u] [b]you can send me your ability preferences[/b]/ranking. Still no chat in the forum until the game starts.[/spoiler] [/quote] Boom shakalaka!

[quote=Bluegoetz]hmm.... well that makes me look a little foolish. but i'd still say that there are not villain abilities, and they didn't know the team and who picked what abilities, so the point remains-what abilities you have don't determine if you are good or bad.[/quote] Just for clarification, not trying to start anything with you Blue, but as I understand it, the mafia knew each other when they were assigned their roles. They would have been informed of every other mafia member and they would have the mafia chat set up right away if I am correct.

[quote]Tennesseelogman said: 05 Dec 2021, 13:47 We are now hoping to start the game Dec 13 +/-. Each player will begin with 2 special abilities and 1 lynch vote. Study the abilities and be ready to rank them in order of preference when the game starts. Do not send me your ranking until your randomly assigned roles are sent out since your choices may change depending on whether you are a superhero or villain. [u]Villains will choose abilities before they know who else is on the villain team[/u]. There are a total of only 4 of each abilities initially available to the entire group. Nobody can start off with 2 of the same abilities. Do Not comment on the abilities in the sign-up thread as that might seen as trying to influence others before the game starts. If you have questions or comments, please direct them to me in PM.[/quote] the underline portion is what i was referring to, but i did miss the line before about the choosing after your role is revealed. I made my decision on abilities based on being on either side.

all good. I missed a lot to even after rereading. like the OR in ability 2.

[quote=2ofclubs]Thanks for keeping it clear and not slinging mud and blowing smoke. Yes, the slow leak of inspections was to protect ability secret. But note the suspicion that inspired my inspection was from his presentation or lack of and content. Along with wanting to play a day 1 game with facts not speculations. In fact here is the PM that went down; Note: [i][b]we[/b] already new his ability but as I said, I wanted to play with facts 100% (no killing friendlies like in the past). And I did the inspection w/o Ryo knowing to also facilitate confirming his role 100%)[/i] 2ofclubs said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:49 Ok I am jumping: 2ofclubs said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:49 Use my...... ability on Anax. Tennesseelogman said: 11 Dec 2021, 20:14 anax is a villain Ryomyr said: 11 Dec 2021, 23:52 Dang, well I felt like [b]we[/b] already knew that!!! I guess [b]we[/b] know know for sure now! lol Alright, how do [b]we[/b] get this guy when he has invincibility? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxx PS pretty much the same bases was used with Hood.*[/quote] [b]we we we we we[/b]

2ofclubs said: [b]11 Dec 2021, 23:49[/b] Use my...... ability on Anax. Ryomyr said: [b]11 Dec 2021, 23:52[/b] Dang, well I felt like we already knew that!!! I guess we know know for sure now! lol Alright, how do we get this guy when he has invincibility? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxx so it looks like you are in [b]the same chat together[/b] with tennesseelogman, putting your night action in. did you just make a mistake posting that?

i like the misfits