Prisoners

Also curious if SHJENKE is playing. Did he/she say anything last day phase? I will go through the forum again.

More then circumstantial evidence. So now I am a target.

[quote=2ofclubs]@ V98 what did you do last night? Whats your name and if prisoner the crime?[/quote] I don't feel like there's any evidence against me right now. The others will see that there is no evidence against me. So I don't need to bow to this pressure to reveal my role or my night/day actions yet. It is in the prisoners' best interest that I don't reveal them yet. How do I know you and Anax aren't mafia just fishing for info? Present your evidence against me. If I feel threatened, I'll defend myself with the truth. But that would hurt Town so I'd rather we didn't get to that stage.

[quote=2ofclubs]@ V98 what did you do last night? Whats your name and if prisoner the crime?[/quote] well? be-careful with your answer, you look tired from no sleep.

[quote=Virtuosity98][quote=2ofclubs]@ V98 what did you do last night? Whats your name and if prisoner the crime?[/quote] I don't feel like there's any evidence against me right now. The others will see that there is no evidence against me. So I don't need to bow to this pressure to reveal my role or my night/day actions yet. It is in the prisoners' best interest that I don't reveal them yet. How do I know you and Anax aren't mafia just fishing for info? Present your evidence against me. If I feel threatened, I'll defend myself with the truth. But that would hurt Town so I'd rather we didn't get to that stage.[/quote] [b]I am not mafia [/b] This is isn't phishing pressure. Correct, if I give my evidence it will hurt the town/prisoners. I am not asking you to reveal role, just your name and what you want to claim you were doing last night.

Ok, I think I understand. Yes I have a night action. It's very tenuous evidence you have, I was doing good, not mischief last night.

[quote=Rockbert]Also curious if SHJENKE is playing. Did he/she say anything last day phase? I will go through the forum again. [/quote] Yes he has been and guess who with. V98 SHJENKE. 3

[quote=Virtuosity98][quote=Anaxagore]Virt is suspect for not pushing Abs since the start yesterday [b]#Lynch Virtuosity[/b] Let's see where this goes [/quote] Anax, you seem to push me every single game, for no real reason :) I already responded to your 'concern' about me 'not hard pushing Abs'. You failed to respond to my completely reasonable reply. Perhaps you'd like to read it this time? [quote=Virtuosity98]Nice to see so much activity in the thread :) as per usual, I'd like to hear from everyone, ideally :) [quote=Anaxagore]Virtuosity is probably mafia for not hard pushing Abs since the beginning of the day phase. You guys can fight. [/quote] Anax, you are telling me I am suss for not hard pushing Abs instantly. There's a few reasons I didn't: 1. I was playing a 5 hour board game (called Xia, it's really good!) with my family which didn't finish until much later, so I didn't have time to write my long evidence post straight away. 2. I wanted to see if anyone else had any good information for the group, since I knew that once I shared my discovery, the whole thread would be about Abs. So by waiting I increased the chances of good flow of information. 3. I actually did hard push Abs pretty early, only 4 hours after the deadline passed. That's pretty quick. I would have like to have waited a few more hours for some healthy discussion of other points/information before letting the sledgehammer drop, but it was past midnight here and I didn't want to leave it another 7 hours. I think that's reasonably clear now. The only downside to all this is that now the mafia can all just free-ride on this argument, and none of them will be rooted out during this phase... Maybe I should have waited until later to hard push Abs, eh Anax? :P[/quote] I've sent more PMs than anyone, asked most times in the thread for communication, and rooted out an enemy of the prisoners. All you've done is repeatedly accuse the most townie-looking player :thumbs:[/quote] I just wanna point out that sending a lot of messages doesn’t really prove anything towards your status. It could easily be a facade as to keep eyes off of you. What matters is what people deduce from those messages, not the quantity.

[quote=Virtuosity98]Ok, I think I understand. Yes I have a night action. It's very tenuous evidence you have, I was doing good, not mischief last night. [/quote] Good for whom mafia, neut or prisoner. :P

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Rockbert]Also curious if SHJENKE is playing. Did he/she say anything last day phase? I will go through the forum again. [/quote] Yes he has been and guess who with. V98 SHJENKE. 3[/quote] Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 19:16 Hey SHJENKE, it's nice to be playing with you for the first time :) Is it ok if I ask you how many mafia games you have played in the past? We've not been given much information to work with so far, do you see any clear way to start working things out yet? SHJENKE said: 06 Aug 2021, 00:53 I have no idea sir, Never played mafia before Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 07:04 Ok ok. So do you know the basic idea? Basically, through deduction we have to find the bad guys and vote them off during the voting phase. They will try to stay hidden, and will kill someone each night. So we are looking for clues to help us find them. The more information we share, the more we can piece the puzzle together, but also we risk giving the bad guys more information to work with.

Virtuosity98 said: 09 Aug 2021, 11:22 Hey, setting up communication for this phase. It's interesting that we have been put into the same groups as last time. The mafia are clearly trying to stop the flow of information. I think it's honestly quite likely that me, you and Vicious are all innocents. I have one question for you: did Madagascarter send you a message at the end of the last phase?

That was to SHJENKE, he didn't reply this time

[quote=LandoCalriskian]I just wanna point out that sending a lot of messages doesn’t really prove anything towards your status. It could easily be a facade as to keep eyes off of you. What matters is what people deduce from those messages, not the quantity.[/quote] True. I've posted my entire chat with Abs from last phase. I think it's fair to say I was doing good work and not just idly chatting.

[quote=LandoCalriskian][quote=Virtuosity98][quote=Anaxagore]Virt is suspect for not pushing Abs since the start yesterday [b]#Lynch Virtuosity[/b] Let's see where this goes [/quote] Anax, you seem to push me every single game, for no real reason :) I already responded to your 'concern' about me 'not hard pushing Abs'. You failed to respond to my completely reasonable reply. Perhaps you'd like to read it this time? [quote=Virtuosity98]Nice to see so much activity in the thread :) as per usual, I'd like to hear from everyone, ideally :) [quote=Anaxagore]Virtuosity is probably mafia for not hard pushing Abs since the beginning of the day phase. You guys can fight. [/quote] Anax, you are telling me I am suss for not hard pushing Abs instantly. There's a few reasons I didn't: 1. I was playing a 5 hour board game (called Xia, it's really good!) with my family which didn't finish until much later, so I didn't have time to write my long evidence post straight away. 2. I wanted to see if anyone else had any good information for the group, since I knew that once I shared my discovery, the whole thread would be about Abs. So by waiting I increased the chances of good flow of information. 3. I actually did hard push Abs pretty early, only 4 hours after the deadline passed. That's pretty quick. I would have like to have waited a few more hours for some healthy discussion of other points/information before letting the sledgehammer drop, but it was past midnight here and I didn't want to leave it another 7 hours. I think that's reasonably clear now. The only downside to all this is that now the mafia can all just free-ride on this argument, and none of them will be rooted out during this phase... Maybe I should have waited until later to hard push Abs, eh Anax? :P[/quote] I've sent more PMs than anyone, asked most times in the thread for communication, and rooted out an enemy of the prisoners. All you've done is repeatedly accuse the most townie-looking player :thumbs:[/quote] I just wanna point out that sending a lot of messages doesn’t really prove anything towards your status. It could easily be a facade as to keep eyes off of you. What matters is what people deduce from those messages, not the quantity. [/quote] Exactly I repeatedly ask V98 the simple '?' whats your name. I tell him I have evidence and all we do is dance. I am concerned with the lack of involvement from others.

Knowing I was not in my cell =/= evidence.