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Ryomyr wrote:
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Virtuosity should get a writing award for this:  Who the farts is Valentine???  
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AlexCheckMate wrote:
rheisel
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Virtuosity should get a writing award for this:  Who the farts is Valentine???  

Thanks for bringing this to our attention rheisel!

@elysium5 - I suppose this proves that non-hostile neutrals exist.
Next to that, I guess it means there is only 1 hostile neutral (I'm not hostile). V98 must've written "all hostile neutrals" in win clauses to not already give away it's only 1.
“Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. How on earth can you explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”

― Albert Einstein
Mdhaglund wrote:
elysium5
I was going to wait but I want some info.

#Lynch AlexCheckMate

This will be my vote, Alex, unless you can tell me who I should be choosing to lynch instead and why.

Don't give me any wishy washy blahbideeblahblahblah either. Be clear and specific or die.

I do not have a win clause that includes winning with Neutrals and I have not seen anything in what Virt has said that indicates there are any non-hostile Neutrals. Are there really any non-hostile Neutrals? I am not sure there are in this game. Virt has made this one different, that's for sure.

Technically I dont have a win clause including fellow Capulets. My win clause just says outnumber Montagues, which I would do by myself if I am the only town left. That doesnt mean I am going to start gunning for Caps.

Does your win clause say eliminate all neutrals or all hostile neutrals? Like I said, how do we know Alex is hostile? You know for a fact that Mada isn't part of your win clause.
elysium5 wrote:
Mdhaglund
elysium5
I was going to wait but I want some info.

#Lynch AlexCheckMate

This will be my vote, Alex, unless you can tell me who I should be choosing to lynch instead and why.

Don't give me any wishy washy blahbideeblahblahblah either. Be clear and specific or die.

I do not have a win clause that includes winning with Neutrals and I have not seen anything in what Virt has said that indicates there are any non-hostile Neutrals. Are there really any non-hostile Neutrals? I am not sure there are in this game. Virt has made this one different, that's for sure.

Technically I dont have a win clause including fellow Capulets. My win clause just says outnumber Montagues, which I would do by myself if I am the only town left. That doesnt mean I am going to start gunning for Caps.

Does your win clause say eliminate all neutrals or all hostile neutrals? Like I said, how do we know Alex is hostile? You know for a fact that Mada isn't part of your win clause.
I already answered this question for you...https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3558/romeo-juliet-mafia-game-thread/post/66330#post-66330
"Bad Deadpool... Good Deadpool!"
AlexCheckMate wrote:
I just had a talk with V98:

Spoiler (click to show)

My conclusion:

There is probably some player/role who has a win clause to eliminate all/certain specific neutrals.
I therefore strongly encourage town to not just lynch a neutral...

Hope this helps.
“Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. How on earth can you explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”

― Albert Einstein
Virtuosity98 wrote:
Lynchcount:
Madagascarter - Mdhaglund, AlexCheckMate
AlexCheckMate - Hoodlum, elysium5, rheisel
It is now Day 8. Please submit your Lynch vote, as well as any Role-specific Day actions you wish to perform (countdown).
Day Actions:
• #LYNCH [player], #NO LYNCH, #ABSTAIN in forum thread.
• Role-specific actions (via PM with V98).





Mdhaglund wrote:
elysium5
Mdhaglund
elysium5
I was going to wait but I want some info.

#Lynch AlexCheckMate

This will be my vote, Alex, unless you can tell me who I should be choosing to lynch instead and why.

Don't give me any wishy washy blahbideeblahblahblah either. Be clear and specific or die.

I do not have a win clause that includes winning with Neutrals and I have not seen anything in what Virt has said that indicates there are any non-hostile Neutrals. Are there really any non-hostile Neutrals? I am not sure there are in this game. Virt has made this one different, that's for sure.

Technically I dont have a win clause including fellow Capulets. My win clause just says outnumber Montagues, which I would do by myself if I am the only town left. That doesnt mean I am going to start gunning for Caps.

Does your win clause say eliminate all neutrals or all hostile neutrals? Like I said, how do we know Alex is hostile? You know for a fact that Mada isn't part of your win clause.
I already answered this question for you...https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3558/romeo-juliet-mafia-game-thread/post/66330#post-66330
Yes but I still dont know what evidence you have that Alex is hostile. He may or may not be part of your win clause. I feel that the evidence against Mada is more clear.
elysium5 wrote:
Mdhaglund
elysium5
Mdhaglund
elysium5
I was going to wait but I want some info.

#Lynch AlexCheckMate

This will be my vote, Alex, unless you can tell me who I should be choosing to lynch instead and why.

Don't give me any wishy washy blahbideeblahblahblah either. Be clear and specific or die.

I do not have a win clause that includes winning with Neutrals and I have not seen anything in what Virt has said that indicates there are any non-hostile Neutrals. Are there really any non-hostile Neutrals? I am not sure there are in this game. Virt has made this one different, that's for sure.

Technically I dont have a win clause including fellow Capulets. My win clause just says outnumber Montagues, which I would do by myself if I am the only town left. That doesnt mean I am going to start gunning for Caps.

Does your win clause say eliminate all neutrals or all hostile neutrals? Like I said, how do we know Alex is hostile? You know for a fact that Mada isn't part of your win clause.
I already answered this question for you...https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3558/romeo-juliet-mafia-game-thread/post/66330#post-66330
Yes but I still dont know what evidence you have that Alex is hostile. He may or may not be part of your win clause. I feel that the evidence against Mada is more clear.
Again, as I've already said, hostile or not, he is neutral and has control of the shop. That is enough reason. Too dangerous to let him remain. Mada could be non hostile as well but doesn't own the shop so is less dangerous at the moment. I went after Mad first last time because as the Lord he would have inherited the shop. Now he isn't and won't.

Get rid of the biggest danger first.
"Bad Deadpool... Good Deadpool!"
Mdhaglund wrote:
elysium5
Mdhaglund
elysium5
Mdhaglund
elysium5
I was going to wait but I want some info.

#Lynch AlexCheckMate

This will be my vote, Alex, unless you can tell me who I should be choosing to lynch instead and why.

Don't give me any wishy washy blahbideeblahblahblah either. Be clear and specific or die.

I do not have a win clause that includes winning with Neutrals and I have not seen anything in what Virt has said that indicates there are any non-hostile Neutrals. Are there really any non-hostile Neutrals? I am not sure there are in this game. Virt has made this one different, that's for sure.

Technically I dont have a win clause including fellow Capulets. My win clause just says outnumber Montagues, which I would do by myself if I am the only town left. That doesnt mean I am going to start gunning for Caps.

Does your win clause say eliminate all neutrals or all hostile neutrals? Like I said, how do we know Alex is hostile? You know for a fact that Mada isn't part of your win clause.
I already answered this question for you...https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3558/romeo-juliet-mafia-game-thread/post/66330#post-66330
Yes but I still dont know what evidence you have that Alex is hostile. He may or may not be part of your win clause. I feel that the evidence against Mada is more clear.
Again, as I've already said, hostile or not, he is neutral and has control of the shop. That is enough reason. Too dangerous to let him remain. Mada could be non hostile as well but doesn't own the shop so is less dangerous at the moment. I went after Mad first last time because as the Lord he would have inherited the shop. Now he isn't and won't.

Get rid of the biggest danger first.

Which is why I think we should go for Mada first. We know Alex is neutral, but not if he is hostile or non-hostile. With Mada, there is a chance he can be mafia or hostile neutral, potentially non-hostile neutral as well. But since their is a chance he can be mafia and Alex isnt mafia, then I see going for Mada first is potentially high reward.
elysium5 wrote:
Madagascarter
Ok, I was going to place a Watchman and check Mdhaglund’s finances to see if it added up to what he claimed
Is this post why you are so eager to get rid of Mada first> Something to do with your finances?
"Bad Deadpool... Good Deadpool!"
Mdhaglund wrote:
elysium5
Madagascarter
Ok, I was going to place a Watchman and check Mdhaglund’s finances to see if it added up to what he claimed
Is this post why you are so eager to get rid of Mada first> Something to do with your finances?
Ive been eager to get rid of him since I attacked him the previous night. I know he is not part of Cap. With your info, I know he is not town. Plus getting rid of him will prove that I am Cap and no more suspicion of me being mafia, which is what he is using to cling onto his life.

Why would he check my finances again? He keeps claiming I am rich, even tho I only started with 3 coins and havent been able to save since we have implemented a socialist regimin multiple times...

Did you not think he was lying about what he was doing after he was caught in a lie about being outside? He also said he was done checking finances since its only real use was to find the shop keeper. He keeps putting more suspicion on me just so he has a narrative
Anaxagore wrote:
I enjoy playing mafia with you Alex.. but hostile or not hostile, my policy is to lynch all the neutrals.

#Lynch AlexCheckMate

2ofclubs wrote:
Thanks for the lobbying.

Consensus via actual vote and chat
Alex  =  neutral, hostile neutral or town  Most believe this is a sure lynch as they did with Rem and were WRONG.  " I believe he's town "
Mada =  Mafia or neutral, hostile neutral 

Alex  = Hood+1, Ely, Mada, Rheisel, Anax, Rock+1 = 8 total   excluding illegals
Mada = MDH, Alex, Clubs,                = 3 total  excluding illegals

It appears this lynch is more about jockeying house position vs eliminating mafia and neutrals. This tactic can be used/from all factions. where as the later mafia approach by town and neutral only. So I say lynching mafia mada by 8 town and 2 neutrals would be safer.

Hood+1, Ely, Rheisel, Anax, and Rock+1 who wants to flip to Mada?




WRKD4IT
AlexCheckMate wrote:
AlexCheckMate
I just had a talk with V98:

Spoiler (click to show)

My conclusion:

There is probably some player/role who has a win clause to eliminate all/certain specific neutrals.
I therefore strongly encourage town to not just lynch a neutral...

Hope this helps.

This post^ is being overlooked (on purpose?).
Check the spoiler.
“Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. How on earth can you explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”

― Albert Einstein