The Realm of Spades mafia game thread

Can you share those PMs? Sorry, but I find it hard to believe that all of our roles were written via phone. I've only seen one other role with a time stamp (including mine) and they were written within 2 minutes of each other (12:33 & 12:35). While it's plausible, it just makes a lot more sense for Syg to type out the roles on something easier than a phone.

I vote #UltrasPlot

I vote #ultraspot

Mayba I've sent them to you. Ultra revealed his role pm in the forum though. It is right to be suspicious of syg using a phone but he copy pasted most repitive roles and he is not very good at typing on computers. Most who know him on D12 know he uses his phone to play. I told him to use the computer but he spent hours instead on his phone setting it all up.

Okay first off. The only role PMs I have received are vanilla ones. Second off. I've been indecisive on the lynch as I've been trying to solve the game, and certain people are not being forthcoming with information I need in order to do so (looking at you alphax, elysium) Third off. If I'm mafia why have I not been counterclaimed? Fourth off. The last thing I want is a random lynch, you know as well as I do that a major portion of my delay is due to wanting to not accidentally hit a power role that can't defend themselves: [spoiler]UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:53 I'm TRYING TO SEE if i can get mafia to attempt to wagon on you if I give them a clear alternative to madagascarter. I do NOT actually think you're mafia nor do I want you lynched. Are we clear? CheekyTeeky said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:54 Yes we are but others aren't. I spent 24 hours building relationships you've just halted. I am not a pawn on your chessboard ! UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:55 look i know you have plenty of relationships with other villagers and can avoid a bandwagon lynch for inactivity that makes you the best person to try to get mafia to wagon CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:16 I know dough or mada are mafia because they are trying to frame you UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:18 i know dough and mada are mafia i'm stringing dough along for more info. expect a new convo with you/skarni/dwcalvert/myself and possibly ely soon. CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:18 Or maybe both. Lets not let them know. Lets vote dough to be safe if he is kyla next? CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:18 Agree UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:19 I suspect kyla is the inspector. consider it gut feeling, but if you reread her posts that's the vibe it gives off. CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:20 But why is dough trying to defend her? I found her posts to be purposely ignorant UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:20 dough voted to lynch her lol CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:20 CheekyTeeky said: 07 Aug 2017, 04:05 am Hi dough, I find Kyla's statments strange. I think she is smart and enjoys mafia so I assume she has already read both our statements about no killing on N0. It almost appears as of she is talking for the sake of not being silent and looking guilty. Any thoughts would be appreciated? dough_boy said: 07 Aug 2017, 12:33 pm Sometimes people have a hard time putting 2 things together. She is right though...unless we know for sure who the inspector is the Dr should save themselves the first night as I doubt the mafia would want to target a "known" vanillager. We have yet to hear if there was an inspection, and if there was no one has come out and said they were inspected. Could be that if there was an inspection either those two are keeping low OR they inspected a mafia and have no way to reveal this. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:21 Anyways here is what my sheet stands at currently: CLAIMING VANILLA (7/6) --- dwcalvert - 7 - wildcard, did claim quickly doughboy - 5 - likely scum, weird thing with the early fake number he took back after skarni claim, confirming a doc claim to everyone??? cheekyteeky - 4 - essentially clear if madag is scum huskers01 - 2 - wildcard skarni - 3 - essentially clear if madag is scum elysium5 - wildcard alphax211 - possible scum? CLAIMING POWER ROLE (2/3) --- ultrasplot - 10 (vig) madagascarter - (doc) - almost certainly scum CLAIMING MAFIA (0/3) --- CLAIMING NOTHING --- jimi - not inspector - doc??? kyla - possible insp? mayba - very quiet - possible scum - also possibly doc PAIRS HIGHLY IMPROBABLE TO BOTH BE MAFIA --- elysium5 - jimi cheeky - madag cheeky - kyla madag - skarni UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:22 Do you have direct contact with kyla? CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:23 Also now that I trust you the runour was from Jimi that he was inspected and alphax is inspector. Not confirmed and keep it quiet. They haven't talked to me since you said I might be mafia. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:23 oh wow in that case i ought to clear it up with them, did not expect that result. makes sense why you were pissed at my suspicion then CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:24 I don't know how You've linked me and madag? UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:26 read the title of the section PAIRS HIGHLY IMPROBABLE TO BOTH BE MAFIA CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:26 CheekyTeeky said: 07 Aug 2017, 02:31 pm Hi madagascarter, the post from skarni has blown everything up and I think you have the target on your back now. I would like to know what your intent was? Were you trying to help him out or manipulate a newbie and why did you react the way you did to him asking for the same thing you asked for? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 02:40 pm I generally forgot I put that in my introductory message. I originally put in my number but backed out of it before sending. I forgot to take out the part asking for his number, but then I changed my stance a bit to put him on the back foot and try to force out his number. I've got a few others like Elysium's and Dough_boys and I hope they trusted me when I sent them my role. I didn't make it up, honest. Anyway Skarni is a good player and turned my pressure right back. CheekyTeeky said: 07 Aug 2017, 02:43 pm What number did you get? I have a few numbers too. I don't want to vote off village so if you're innocent we need to save you. That is our whole convo CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:27 I see now from other post why. Because you think i gave him your role PM UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:31 erm im saying that if hes mafia then ur clear that group is people that are almost certainly not both mafia at the same time. sorry for the confusion.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]dough_boy said: 07 Aug 2017, 23:56 I already told you I am pretty sure it is Kyla, Alpha and Mayba as the Mafia. We are all guessing Alpha now, so maybe we go with them...but no one (including them) has given me anything that would indicate they are not Mafia. UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 23:57 What makes you think it's not madag? also I would really rather not have kyla lynched today he's on my shortlist for possible power role dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:07 Kyla = she... And because I have numbers (non-conflicting) from everyone but 4 people. 3 of which are mafia. I have unofficial confirmation on one being a power role and that leaves these three. Also, Mad provided his role to me before you posted in the forums and they are both very similar. So either you are both Mafia and concocted similar role descriptions, or you are both not and are legit. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:12 "similar." a well written fake is almost impossible to tell apart from a real role pm, and madag has talked to every newbie separately. what's to say he couldn't have convinced a power role to stupidly give him their role PM? CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:15 He won't talk to me.[/spoiler]

Madag is sheriff? [spoiler]dough_boy said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:30 If you come across another 5 then we know they are lying...why I am sharing out a fake one ;). So what number are you? I have identified 6 of the 9. UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:31 6 out of the 9? I assume 2,3,4,5,6,7? dough_boy said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:32 Nope. I see you are claiming to be 10 in the forums. UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:33 okay good, if it were 2,3,4,5,6,7 i would've been suspicious bc someone else said they had that exact same list. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:14 And you are basically confirming to me that Madag is claiming the doctor? Since if he's vig like his other claim would suggest, there is no way we could possibly both be town. dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:17 You have your answer. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:18 And you would tell this to me, a person your 'doctor' is convinced is mafia, why? dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:20 Because I believe you are #10 as you stated. Really all we need to do is identify the true 9 people. Even if the Mafia take out one or two we will still win. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:22 And you have told madag to protect himself tonight, and he knows I intend to shoot him? dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:26 Yes. So if you shoot him the next night and he doesn't die he is doctor. I wish you wouldn't waste your shot this early, but if you want go ahead. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:31 wasted either way im an obvious nightkill target currently dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:36 Not necessarily. The mafia would rather kill the doc or the inspector. You with a shot doesn't matter unless you 100% know you are targeting mafia. I would expect they would try to roll the dice and target someone they aren't sure of or think might be one of them. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:37 Wouldn't it also matter that i am 100% privately clearing the doc to the few he's claimed to? Hardly a waste. dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:40 Not really...any villager could be the doc and decide to save him if they wanted. Logic would say yes. The only proof would be inspector. But what if he is the Doc and he knows who the inspector is and saves them and then you kill him...doesn't help. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:41 Logic says that every other villager would not save the person the vig intends to shoot. If he knew who the inspector was he would not have talked to me in the fashion that he did, since he would know of one *clear* user to talk to instead. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:42 **especially** when said villager is claiming their role. dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:44 Could be. Remember...trust no one. I initially suspected he was Mafia due to the lie, but I believe not. You haven't said why you don't suspect Kyla. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:45 It's not that I don't suspect Kyla. It's that I suspect she might be the inspector and I fear she might be too inactive to defend herself in the event that she is. dough_boy said: 08 Aug 2017, 00:46 One of the people I have "vetted" stated that they were inspected by a "he". Again, could all be fake, but I believe they are truthful which given that slip ruled them out of Mafia for me.[/spoiler] [spoiler]UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:32 look man i've given you absolutely no reason to distrust me, this stonewalling is starting to tip me off. why do you support everything i say in forums then proceed to give me no good intel in PM? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:52 I've got Skarni's role PM and is literally identical to doughs UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:53 As for your own? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:54 no I'm power role UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:56 So would you care to tell me your card number now? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:57 that would give it away. You already know 10=sheriff 9=inspector 8=doctor Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:57 What is obvious is that dough_boy gave Skarni 5 and us 3 UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:58 Well, if you know that there's no point in catching you that way... how did you come across this information? did i miss it? UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:00 i find it interesting that you mention dough_boy as the person that would ask me for claims. that means you're not insp, bc if you were you'd probably have a different cleared villy by now. You're not doc, because doc never claims shit unless they're like one vote to lynch That leaves vig? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:00 I gave my role to Skarni. He gave me his and it didn't match up. UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:02 why would you trade a PR claim for a vanilla claim? anyways answer my question are you vig or not >.> Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:04 So the mafia wants to know which power role I am to see if there is point killing me UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:04 And yet you claimed PR willingly to said "mafia" Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:06 I trust him more than you. UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:07 i mean you kinda told me you're power role under no real pressure to do so i asked for a card number you told me 'power role' Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:08 Please Ultras we've been down this road I'm NOT giving you a number UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:09 but yet you told me you're PR which is infinitely more valuable either you really think i'm maf and you're bluffing me or you're just trying to save your own skin at this point by saying you're pr Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:12 I think your mafia and is trying to work out which PR is taken as you don't want to try a village spot UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:13 In that case why are you talking to me at all? You'll have to tell someone today because I know for a fact there is another user currently assembling a lynch coalition against you. Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:15 In your nice mafia chat perhaps and also you get pretty grumpy when you don't answer. UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:16 Are there enough other users currently online for a three-person mafia chat? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:17 Yes because I feel like I'm spamming in about 17 right now. (Slight exaggeration) UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:18 I essentially said in forums that i'm only in two currently so i wouldn't really know but still if you're so convinced i'm maf why are you even talking to me Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 16:19 OK BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Madagascarter said: 05 Aug 2017, 18:33 Hey Ultras, Are you mafia cause you seemed to always be mafia in series 1? UltrasPlot said: 06 Aug 2017, 01:52 would syg trust me to enough to not flake to be mafia? doubt it Madagascarter said: 06 Aug 2017, 12:59 Syg said all roles are random so nothing about trust. UltrasPlot said: 06 Aug 2017, 17:28 in that case since its n0 i have little more to say than "im not mafia" am quite suspicious of elysium though, highly distrust any "i'm new to mafia" posts after seeing how well certain newbies managed in my previous games. Madagascarter said: 06 Aug 2017, 20:15 Yes, I agree with Elysium being suspicious. Skarni is also very suspisious, he's definatly not a newbie to this game as he is asking all the right questions. This is my chat with Skarni Skarni/Mada (click to show) UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 00:24 agree skarni is a tad fishy UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 00:58 So you are claiming vanilla. Did not notice this earlier. Are you willing to tell me what card you are specifically? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 06:25 Just as willing as you are. Again it's the same logic, I can't give anyone a "get out of jail free card". If we could do it at the same time... Skarni made a good point that I asked him the same question and yeah, well I kind of forgot about that. UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 08:22 If I wanted a get out of jail free card would you be the person I would ask? You know as well as I that if I wanted a fake role I would have one by now, and without giving you any reason for suspicion. There are plenty of new players I could manipulate if I wanted to. I'm asking because I think I have an idea of how to clear people, which I intend to keep quiet, at least for now. Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 09:01 Yes I would because we have a chat going and you'd have to use a different number depending on the person if you were mafia and creating a fake role PM before you've seen any role PM's, would be a very risky stratigy. At the moment I don't really trust anyone except for dwcalvert. With him being a newbie and instantly, after my opening message asked why he should trust me. Mada + dwcalvert (click to show) UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 09:08 I understand I'm not exactly the easiest person to trust in this game. However, I'm not asking you for a full role PM, I'm only asking you for a number. That said PLEASE TELL THE NEWBIES TO STOP PUBLICLY CLAMING VANILLA IT'S MAKING IT WAY TOO EASY FOR MAFIA TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE POWER ROLES ARE UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 09:18 by the way just so you know we have seven vanilla claims at least one is scum Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 09:19 Well, who in their right mind won't claim villager. It's not great odds UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 09:21 well they could at least stay quiet so the PRs have some form of protection... UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:24 Is this role pm real Sygmassacre said: 05 Aug 2017, 12:24 The 3 of Spades. dough_boy, You are a villager in the Spade Realm. You will endeavour to keep the Mafia from taking control by lynching them during the day phase. Be wary of lynching villagers though. You win when all mafia are eliminated. Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:24 That is what he sent to me UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:25 But you are claiming vanilla, you should be able to confirm if it is real. Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:26 Now that sounds fishy Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:26 PR or Mafia? UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:27 oh my god if you still haven't figured out that i'm soft claiming PR UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:28 "Seven vanillager claims" "one must be scum" Don't you realize I didn't include myself? UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:30 So I expect you will be a little more forthcoming with information now? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:31 Why so you can tell your mafia friends what to write when asked by dough? UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:32 i have dough's role pm do you want it? lmfao UltrasPlot said: 07 Aug 2017, 15:32 look man i've given you absolutely no reason to distrust me, this stonewalling is starting to tip me off. why do you support everything i say in forums then proceed to give me no good intel in PM?[/spoiler]

Can you explain why an old typo syg used to have in past mafia forum posts appeared in your role PM?

Nope. You think I would have remembered an old typo to use in a fake role? I'm flattered, but I haven't played mafia here in ages.

" purposely ignorant" - Cheeky Rude! ^^ Ok yes I was confused about the killing, it's because I have played before in life a couple times and they killed on the first night. I thought maybe Syg would have different rules to mad. And I was only giving ideas for the doctor, I don't think that's enough for dough_boy to lynch me. I would like to point out that me and dough_boy havent spoken through PM much yet. dough_boy voted to lynch me before I could even reply to his PM(people sleep). In his PM he was asking me about my role PM from syg. It feels like he's threating me to try see if I'm a power role or not. Please if you have a power role say you're a villager!! You're impotent and we need you alive.

I mean no offense personally Kyla. Apologies.

CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 04:58 True I suppose it is 80% certain then. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:00 Have a look at all those PM conversations I just publicized. Any way I faked them all just now? CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:03 Im not claiming you faked convos. I'm claiming you faked your role PM. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:04 read through those convos and it's rather clear i'm not the one lying lol CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:05 To you perhaps but I have nothing to hide. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:05 This is the only role PM i have ever received from sygma prior to this game. Sygmassacre said: 07 Nov 2014, 16:03 Dear UltrasPlot, You are Agent Brown, an agent of the matrix programmed to stop the human rebels. Each night you can foil a role pm inspection on any player connected to the Matrix by sending BETA and Sygmassacre a pm titled NX - Blur <user>. You win once all aligned with the humans are deleted. How would I have known? CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:06 Ive sent all our PM and group PM to others. CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:07 Why is the typo there? Don't care how or not, why is it there? UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:08 And you are going to disregard everything else because my role pm has an unexplainable typo? I am really good at writing fakes, but how could I have possibly known about that typo when my one role pm from syg previously doesn't have it? UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:11 Also I just realized there is one glaring flaw in your logic. All day I've said I'm shooting Madagascarter to prove who I am tonight. Why does madag want me lynched instead of doing the same? Only the one with the gun could possibly survive the night anyways, and the other gets shot. Even if you want to throw about the fact that I've been infinitely more transparent than madag that alone should be tell enough. CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:11 Yes because that typo has appeared in sygs old forum posts. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:12 *throw out the fact CheekyTeeky said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:13 But the mafia could also shoot him we wouldn't know who. I was speculating he is the real sheriff that part I admit I could have wrong. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:13 Also if it was fake why did I lay out all my cards when I did on early day one with only one vote? If we're gonna talk about old history I've generally been conservative with who I trust, if anyone at all. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:14 ONE OF US HAS TO BE SHERIFF. NEITHER OF US HAS ANY INCENTIVE TO NOT SHOOT THE OTHER TONIGHT. Plain as day. UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:15 I don't know whether I should be flattered or pissed off that my reputation remains such that a single unexplained typo on a role pm = ultra scum but seriously I want to know how the hell madag duped you into thinking he was vig UltrasPlot said: 08 Aug 2017, 05:15 I don't know whether I should be flattered or pissed off that my reputation remains such that a single unexplained typo on a role pm = ultra scum but seriously I want to know how the hell madag duped you into thinking he was vig

It's ok Cheeky ;)

I have nothing to hide I will PM full convos to anyone else that wants them. Stop flooding the forum we're not going to forget we think you're guilty.