Map Dabble

i will continue to experiment with this map, i am having some fun with it.

no rivers. france [b]department[/b] regional edit [spoiler][img]https://i.imgur.com/kdKLb8z.jpg[/img][/spoiler] [url=https://i.imgur.com/kdKLb8z.jpg] 100% view[/url]

I like it!

not sure why it posted twice.

I like it too and I'm okay also with the smaller regions, but I just forgot one request I had in mind... Can you avoid the cheat on "Corse du Sud" please. I mean actually the name means Southern Corsica but in this way the southernmost part of Corsica doesn't belong to that department/territory anymore. Also, a region having 2 territories only is already a very easy region by itself, it doesn't need to be more defensible (and all the other regions in the map aren't much so). With my bonus system a region like that would be entitled to have a +0 bonus.

i didn't realize it was a cheat, musta been a copied cheat from another reference :) [spoiler][img]https://i.imgur.com/Rn2NspC.jpg[/img][/spoiler] [url=https://i.imgur.com/Rn2NspC.jpg]100% view[/url] a few little changes. red/white/blue bar impassable image

a thematic map with the roman empire, something i don't know much about. but now know a little something.. AD 396 is the 2nd and last time the roman empire divided between the east and west empires and was the start of the decline of the roman empire. there's a big extra special gameplay bonus for the east/west theme. the name places were too lengthy for the small territories, so opted for roman numerals..using a timeline of the expansion from Rome.. 1 to 93 [spoiler][img]https://i.imgur.com/NpX0g6w.jpg[/img][/spoiler] [url=https://i.imgur.com/NpX0g6w.jpg]100% view[/url]

Interesting, i like the idea of the super region bonus

So nice! So historical also. Does the circles fit in the small territories? "[size=12px]MARE INTERNUM[/size]" maybe should stay all in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea, or be enlarged as "[size=12px] M A R E I N T E R N U M [/size]" (common cartographic technique). It's nice to have the two parts of the empire being game-play-represented, I see and appreciate the proportion on the extra bonuses, though they seems huge, couldn't 9 and 8 be enough? I don't know what is the purpose though, so maybe they have to stay as high as they are, i'm just asking.

the circles are squeezed in there, that was the painful part of making it, and trying to keep it as accurate to the reference. good suggestion with the Sea name.. i didn't realise it was part of the same thing..it wasn't on the reference lol. the west/east bonus idea, was a last thought to fill in a blank spot on the map. i thought it might work with the theme, therefore i had also added the extra bit of title. i was thinking the bonus to be a large one, to pretty much mean game over if someone managed to claim one. however, +9 +8 sounds sensible tho :)

Yes, it's like a game over, but probably it would be a game over either way. So I don't know, maybe keep it for now and see what the criticism will say. Anyway I'm happy for the theme choosen, definitely a "must have" map for D-twelve! Fyi: MARE INTERNUM ="internal sea" (i.e. the Mediterranean Sea), other possible names are/were MARE NOSTRUM ="our sea", or MARE MAGNUM ="the great sea". MARE MEDITERRANEUM ="sea in the middle of the territories" is also correct in Latin but quite uncommon, I think it came later, not during Romans' Age. Some similar consideration about OCEANUS ATLANTICUS, I'm not sure that name was used at that age (or at least not as we intend it now), more likely Romans called it just OCEANUS. But I see many references showing OCEANUS ATLANTICUS, so I can be wrong on that.

Most likely the supper regions only come into play when only 2-4 players remain, i think it would be especially interesting in 3 player games The small areas are tight but WW2 map has small areas as well and it plays very well

Seems great.

For the Super Regions, they will be classed as two extra regions in the map input area and therefore, anyone who has a super region will also have all the actual regions inside it and so I think the smaller bonuses are more suitable and could possibly go even smaller. We now have a legally accepted table of Roman Numerals as used on this map, but Roman Numerals during the time of the Roman Empire were not as they are now, they have been unified in recent history, but were once varied in their combinations and meanings. [spoiler=Variations of Roman Numerals] 4 could be IIII or IV and 9 could be VIIII or IX for example and both are still used today on clock faces for example. (Mixed Subtractive and Additive notation) On Gate 44 of the Colosseum it is written as XLIIII Notice that I didn't put a "full stop" after the last sentence? That is because beside using the decimal system for integers the Romans also used the duodecimal system for fractions. Duodecimal is the division or multiples of 12 and were represented by "." dots and "s" the letter. "s" was "half or 6/12" and dots & s were used additionally only .....s..... after the Roman Numerals. Like so [size=16px]. .. ... .... ..... s s. s.. s... s.... s.....[/size] So 9 and a half could be IXs or VIIIIs and four and a quarter could be IIII.... or IV.... or IIII:: or IV:: The Colon as we use it today, was believed to be from the duodecimal 2/12 or 1/6, as they often stacked the dots as well as writing them horizontally, like so [size=16px] .. [/size] or [size=16px] : [/size] and so 4/12 or 1/3 was [size=16px] .... [/size] or [size=16px] : : [/size] There was also a usage for Military Legions who would represent the Legion Count of, e.g. the 22nd Legion as IIXX = 2 and 20th. A stonecutter mistook this as 18 and corrected it to XVIII, perhaps because it is thought that Roman Numerals came from the ancient Etruscan language who were the most advanced population in the early formation of the Roman Empire and wrote 17, 18, and 19 as IIIXX, IIXX & IXX, but then the Etruscan language was written from right to left and so would have been written as XXIII (17), XXII (18) & XXI (19), which could be later interpreted as 23, 22 & 21. The earlier notations of 500 & 1000 were IↃ and CIↃ, which are believed to have influenced the later D and M. I believe Ↄ was known as Apostrophus. The number zero did not originally have its own Roman numeral, but from 525 AD, scholars were known to use the word "nulla" (Latin for "none" ) and from 725 AD the scholar Bede used the notation "N" for "nulla" or for "nihil" (Latin for "nothing" ). [spoiler=My experience with Decimal & Duodecimal] Just by reading these few paragraphs about Roman Numerals, we can see how the invented trading language of Latin has influenced and remained part of modern languages, especially English. The duodecimal system also remained in the British monetary, weights & measures systems until I was in school. It makes no difference to my generation when dealing with weights & measures whether decimal or duodecimal, because British people of my age group had to learn both systems, but my parents generation struggle with decimal (metric) weights & measures and likewise, my generation struggle with the duodecimal monetary system, because we were young when it changed to decimal. The imperial systems were the sole use for all Monetary, Weights & Measures in the British Isles for well over 1000 years and Latin & Frank notation was used in the Monetary system "L S D" until 1971. This is not Roman Numerals, nor is it solely from the Romans, but adapted from the Roman systems and it's notation was spread across Western Europe by Charlemagne (King of the Franks). L meant [i]Pounds (English)[/i] and was from [i]Librae[/i] , S was [i]Shillings (English)[/i] from Latin [i]Solidi[/i] (1/20 of a pound) and D was [i]Pence (English)[/i] from [i]Denarii[/i] which was from the Roman Silver coins called [i]Denarius[/i] (1/12 of a Shilling). Many monetary denominations were formed from the Librae system, hence the Lira which preceded the Euro in a few European & Mediterranean countries. The system was easy for those using it all the time, but for me as a child, I had to learn that there were 240 Pennies in a Pound, because there were 20 Shillings in a Pound and 12 Pennies in a Shilling. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason for the fractions of 20 and 12, so understanding the decimal & duodecimal system mixed, didn't really come easy. It would have made a whole lot of sense if it had been 144 Pennies to the Pound, but to decimalise Shillings and Double it and then Duodecimalise the Pennies, bent the brain of a young boy just starting school. We also had a lot of coins for various reasons. Farthing (1/4 Penny) Halfpenny / Hapenny (1/2 Penny) Penny (1 Penny) Threepence / Thruppence / Thrupenny Bit (3 Pennies) Sixpence (6 Pennies) Shilling / Bob (12 Pennies / 1/20th Pound) Florin / Two Bob (24 Pennies / 1/10th Pound) Half Crown / 2 Sillings & 6 Pence (30 Pennies / 1/8th Pound) Crown / 5 Shillings (60 Pennies / 1/4 Pound) 10 Shilling Note / 10 Bob (120 Pennies / 1/2 Pound) Pound (240 Pennies / 20 Shillings) Guinea (252 Pennies / 1 Pound & 1 Shilling), known as the Gentleman's Pound, mainly used in the purchase of prestigious items. You should try to get your head around that lot up to the age of 5 and for a few transitional years after. [/spoiler] [/spoiler]

There was a lot more information on Roman Numerals in the spoiler above, but for some reason, it keeps getting deleted. (Edit) I have been able to post the information today, so the above post has been edited.