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boomoo82 wrote:
Rockbert
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Boomoo, the town wins when the researchers AND CIA are dead. As I understand it, the CIA and Researchers have their own win clauses that involve taking out the other. We already have 3 dead researchers and one dead CIA. If we kill Abs, then we hand CIA the win. If we kill Clubs, he may be CIA and we can even things out a little, but if he's town, we are still relatively strong (Sorry Clubs). We cannot kill another researcher without giving the game to the CIA.

I hear you.
My question is what does Abs have to gain from persuading people to make a particular decision if he ISN'T CIA?
You're saying he might be part of the CIA, but if he isn't... does he in fact belong to any faction now, given his circumstances?
Why is he so intent on getting votes to swing one or another?
Abs?
2ofclubs wrote:
boomoo82
2ofclubs
Abs
boomoo82
jkl3699
Also everyone: If I end up being lynched or killed for some reason and you all see that I am truly town, here is my list of CIA suspects: Peri, Ely, Boom?, Clubs

I am 100% NOT CIA.
Ask me anything and I will answer.
Town all the way.

If you are not CIA, you should Lynch Clubs
No you wont!!!! I asked you what the whisperers said about me and several other things and you don't answer.

Blue sees through you too or should i say you TWO zombies!!
Peri is lost or CIA  somebody give here some good ol' town java. ;)

What have I not answered? There are so many freaking conversations going here that I probably missed your direct questions.
I have heard no whispers...
What else do you want to know?
You said the dark is whispering to you about me several times I asked what the whispers were. Maybe you cant fabricate fast enough or having a rough time following all you deceit.
1411 ABS "I can’t be a bigger threat than clubs if CIA"  - You have nothing its about element and you owned that.
1398 ABS "Yes I would suggest 2ofClubs who is Earth and can neutralise the Fire of Hood"
1242 ABS " I also didn’t claim I heard any new whispers last night"
1325 I asked you again about whispers
1237 I’m not 100% on JKL or Ely but I can’t work out why Clubs would need protection and i have had messages from The Dark about Clubs 

you also said whispers elsewhere pertaining to me/clubs. But this should be enought o back that you did claim to have whispers about me.

also 1217 ABS "I also used my influence to bring back another Light Soul, TenLogMan…if I was a Researcher and had these powers, would I not have saved Antrison?"  Really how you also said the dark choose who to send back (Exhalt).  Hmmm

I need set back and enjoy this cup of coffee.

But will say I enjoy this dialog. I may become a matyr and join the dark battle. I just invested so much in my worldly life at the morgue LOL
WRKD4IT
2ofclubs is online.
boomoo82 wrote:
boomoo82
Rockbert
Spoiler (click to show)

Boomoo, the town wins when the researchers AND CIA are dead. As I understand it, the CIA and Researchers have their own win clauses that involve taking out the other. We already have 3 dead researchers and one dead CIA. If we kill Abs, then we hand CIA the win. If we kill Clubs, he may be CIA and we can even things out a little, but if he's town, we are still relatively strong (Sorry Clubs). We cannot kill another researcher without giving the game to the CIA.

I hear you.
My question is what does Abs have to gain from persuading people to make a particular decision if he ISN'T CIA?
You're saying he might be part of the CIA, but if he isn't... does he in fact belong to any faction now, given his circumstances?
Why is he so intent on getting votes to swing one or another?
Abs?

Rock I am rereading your response. You are saying that we need to keep ABS alive and sacrifice 2ofClubs.
But the rest of my questions remain... Why is Abs pushing one way or another if it isn't in service to some other faction?
What if this is all a rouse to keep the CIA in tact?
periwinkle wrote:
Abs was/is a researcher.....he needs to stay alive....clubs is a suspected CIA.  We need to kill more CIA otherwise game over
boomoo82 wrote:
2ofclubs
boomoo82
2ofclubs
Abs
boomoo82
jkl3699
Also everyone: If I end up being lynched or killed for some reason and you all see that I am truly town, here is my list of CIA suspects: Peri, Ely, Boom?, Clubs

I am 100% NOT CIA.
Ask me anything and I will answer.
Town all the way.

If you are not CIA, you should Lynch Clubs
No you wont!!!! I asked you what the whisperers said about me and several other things and you don't answer.

Blue sees through you too or should i say you TWO zombies!!
Peri is lost or CIA  somebody give here some good ol' town java. ;)

What have I not answered? There are so many freaking conversations going here that I probably missed your direct questions.
I have heard no whispers...
What else do you want to know?
You said the dark is whispering to you about me several times I asked what the whispers were. Maybe you cant fabricate fast enough or having a rough time following all you deceit.
1411 ABS "I can’t be a bigger threat than clubs if CIA"  - You have nothing its about element and you owned that.
1398 ABS "Yes I would suggest 2ofClubs who is Earth and can neutralise the Fire of Hood"
1242 ABS " I also didn’t claim I heard any new whispers last night"
1325 I asked you again about whispers
1237 I’m not 100% on JKL or Ely but I can’t work out why Clubs would need protection and i have had messages from The Dark about Clubs 

you also said whispers elsewhere pertaining to me/clubs. But this should be enought o back that you did claim to have whispers about me.

also 1217 ABS "I also used my influence to bring back another Light Soul, TenLogMan…if I was a Researcher and had these powers, would I not have saved Antrison?"  Really how you also said the dark choose who to send back (Exhalt).  Hmmm

I need set back and enjoy this cup of coffee.

But will say I enjoy this dialog. I may become a matyr and join the dark battle. I just invested so much in my worldly life at the morgue LOL

Are you saying that I heard whispers about you several times?
I am totally confused by this. I truly do not remember saying that at any point in the game?
Can you find the post where I said that?
Abs wrote:
What I have to gain is I am not CIA so each day that goes by where they don’t get closer to winning is a good day for Town and Researchers

I have no idea if I am 100% not a researcher but I can only go off what V98 sent to me on my return which makes it appear like my old Researcher role is redundant but who knows! I just know that if all Researchers die then CIA win and we All lose

Abs
Some of my chats with V98....

1. When you say win clause is have 2 or more earth occupants in The Dark. does this mean the game is over both on Earth in The Light and also In The Dark?
2. Can we send PMs and have Open comms with the players in The Dark?
3. Are we still in the same faction in The dark as we were in Earth? Example, are Mada and myself still on the same team? Both researchers? Or will mada now perhaps have a star sign that isn’t Earth and we are now against each other?
4. When whispering to a player in the Light, I assume we should be trying to send messages to researchers to allow our old faction to win?
5. If we are Exalted, will we go back as our old character or as something else? Will the other light players know we are back?

V98 responses:

1. Earth as in Earth Element - the Zodiacs are grouped into four elements: Fire, Earth, Air, Water. So you need to make it so only Earth Zodiac signs occupy the Dark, and get rid of the Fire, Air and Water zodiac signs. Make sense? Beware though, if Fire take over The Dark the game will be over
2. No, same rules apply, I will create all PMs between players who are allowed to talk.
3. New faction groups are entirely independent of previous faction groups. It is random chance whether you are still on the same team or not.
4. Focus on achieving your own current win clause as your old win clause may no longer exist. But do whatever you'd like, it's up to you! Bear in mind that by #Whispering, you use up one of your actions so you will have less influence in the #Exalt/Abase voting.
5. You do not currently know the answer to this, but think of it from my perspective - would I create a mechanic whereby you can resurrect if it was just a guaranteed death in the same role?

boomoo82 wrote:
periwinkle
Abs was/is a researcher.....he needs to stay alive....clubs is a suspected CIA.  We need to kill more CIA otherwise game over


But Abs said he is no longer a researcher...
periwinkle wrote:
Suspected CIA
Jkl, ely, 2of clubs....but we know clubs is an earth element....we need to lynch people with different elements to keep the game in play. Currently there are 2 water and fire...and I'm not sure what ant is....

This is why clubs is the ideal candidate
jkl3699 wrote:
periwinkle
Suspected CIA
Jkl, ely, 2of clubs....but we know clubs is an earth element....we need to lynch people with different elements to keep the game in play. Currently there are 2 water and fire...and I'm not sure what ant is....

This is why clubs is the ideal candidate
If you are so sure that I am CIA then why not just lynch me?
boomoo82 wrote:
Either I am having a hard time following the forum responses, or 2ofClubs is implying things about my that are untrue.
boomoo82 wrote:
periwinkle
That is correct...3 researchers are dead....there is 1 left

How do you know there is only 1 researcher left?
Did I miss that somewhere in the forum?
Tennesseelogman wrote:
lynch vote as i have it now
2oc - 5 - anax, tenn, abs, rock, peri
abs - 4 - jkl, thick, blue, ryo
ely - 1 - ely
abstain - 1 - 2oc
not voted - 2 - boo, lando
can not vote - 7 - pyg, jobu, orz, hood, ant, mada, chip
total = 20

if this is wrong please just revote now to make it easier on v98
Live long and prosper