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Abs wrote:
Hoodlum
this is the very reason jkl probably inspected you.
comments like,... let's lynch jkl because he's a town member with too much power.

and the next inspected person will probably be lando, with comments like.. sorry, mada for not being active, i could have saved ya.

some bad mistakes going on.

what i also read from lando's reply, is that RESEARCHERS probably don't know each other.

Hood, it’s not a mistake, how can an experienced player like you not see this. I am simply saying that JKL can not be Town with such a powerful ability. Why would V98 who has set up such a tight game just give a Town player that sort of power or ability if they were Town? This was my whole point and only reason I voted for JKL as it seemed out of keeping.

I simply am a powerless Town except for this ability to #clean or #deface graves and names Of dead players which I am trying to work out how this can be useful
Abs wrote:
Rockbert
Abs doesn't appear to be refuting the claim that he is mafia.

I am refuting it, but I am in the UK and only Just woke up which is also a disadvantage as all this BS has come up when I am asleep
Abs wrote:
Hoodlum
this sort of power is normal for town? jkl got lucky with mada. 1/19 chance.

he didn't get so lucky with you ABS, it was a decision based on you probably saying, jkl has too much power for town, lets lynch him.
this just reads that you aren't town.


It was based on a few things:

1. JKL fairytale stories in almost all previous mafia games
2. I didn’t find it enough to Lynch Mada based on his “dream”

I said before the result for Mada was announced that if it did transpire that Mada was a baddy then it shows JKL might have some truth.

What do you think my #clean or #deface graves is all about?
Abs wrote:
jkl3699
And, if Abs happens to be Researcher, it would still make sense to lynch him as there are likely 3-4 of them in this game. If Abs is CIA, then it's in obvious lynch. No reason to lynch anybody else unless you have solid proof of them not being town

Yes pleas JKL, can you elaborate my exact role as you seem to know but both are incorrect haha! At least end of this phase, Town will be able to stop this JKL CIA power play but question is, how many Town folk will die before you are caught.

FYI, I think I might be able to help revive or bring back Chip and Orz with my #clean or #deface graves of dead players night action, I am not allowed to post what v98 sent to me in my original PM but I have read it again and seems like this can be the case.
Abs wrote:
Anyway, I stand by my original post that JKL must be CIA. I have no other reason to lynch anyone else therefore #lynch JKL

2ofclubs wrote:
Abs
2ofclubs
ABS is Cia or researcher
jkl is cop


Clubs, this is such a flippant comment

Can I understand correctly everyone thinks I am CIA/Researcher because I voted for JKL? That’s the only reason?
No its not flippant. The reason for mass lynch is the info from Cop investigation not only your vote. My comment does not specify JKL's faction. And as you have said, JKL could be aggressive CIA with a win clause of eliminate all researchers BUT as I understand it, the win clauses are not that clear/defined.
I am not siding with JKL, I am going with what is presented like the rest of the town/players.
Defacing.... is not a healing or bring back to life town ability. It is more of a Hiding Researcher ability to eliminate evidence like clearing out the lab and drinking memory cool-aid.
Lastly you can share in your own words V98's PM.
WRKD4IT
2ofclubs wrote:
Hoodlum
this is the very reason jkl probably inspected you.
comments like,... let's lynch jkl because he's a town member with too much power.

and the next inspected person will probably be lando, with comments like.. sorry, mada for not being active, i could have saved ya.

some bad mistakes going on.

what i also read from lando's reply, is that RESEARCHERS probably don't know each other.

From post #1:  The final touch: memory-altering drugs to ensure no details would be leaked, and that no-one would blab. After the crisis blows over, maybe the researchers would find a way to regroup, and the pioneering research could resume with redoubled caution.
Townie: All you want is your Town back. Win clause: Eliminate all factions that do not care about the survival of the Town.
Researchers: You remember nothing of your research project, nor of your associates. The CIA are out to kill you Your objective is to survive and regroup.  Win clause: ___________________________  My Note: Researchers want to resume their underground research at any cost.
CIA: Win clause: ___________________________   My Note: CIA want the info to take back to the goverment not kill the town.

The thing is we (all players) don't know what the research was and i assume that's what the puzzle holds.
Just my share.
WRKD4IT
Abs wrote:
2ofclubs
Abs
2ofclubs
ABS is Cia or researcher
jkl is cop


Clubs, this is such a flippant comment

Can I understand correctly everyone thinks I am CIA/Researcher because I voted for JKL? That’s the only reason?
No its not flippant. The reason for mass lynch is the info from Cop investigation not only your vote. My comment does not specify JKL's faction. And as you have said, JKL could be aggressive CIA with a win clause of eliminate all researchers BUT as I understand it, the win clauses are not that clear/defined.
I am not siding with JKL, I am going with what is presented like the rest of the town/players.
Defacing.... is not a healing or bring back to life town ability. It is more of a Hiding Researcher ability to eliminate evidence like clearing out the lab and drinking memory cool-aid.
Lastly you can share in your own words V98's PM.

I cnat copy and paste it exactly but it the Clean/Deface is specific to dead players graves...

N: #CLEAN/DEFACE [dead player name]’s grave. When used, this will unlock an action to be used for each dead player
Abs wrote:
I really didnt want to have to share this ability as it seems it was my only real power in this game but all I can read it as, is something to allow us to help Town

Why dont you let me use it the next Night as an action on Chip or Orz and we see what happens? This is all I can do right now but trust me, if it does revive players or give some element of healing, we need to make sure I am protected to be able to use it. Maybe this is also why JKL is after me? Who knows, as I said right from the beginning, I am so inthe dark and not even had a chance to learn anything about what I can do in this game and seems other non town are always a step ahead with their actions/kills.
2ofclubs wrote:
Interesting. You can potential bring back Researcher Mada. One/you would think that I would shy of the double cross. 
Why would we want Zombies wondering around LOL
WRKD4IT
Hoodlum wrote:
but im saying jkl doesnt have an unusually powerful ability. it's a common power? it's a town cop? that's usually the player you don't want to lynch, if your town. you didn't even want to see if he was correct before you put a lynch vote on him. you aren't town, simple as that.
Abs wrote:
Hoodlum
but im saying jkl doesnt have an unusually powerful ability. it's a common power? it's a town cop? that's usually the player you don't want to lynch, if your town. you didn't even want to see if he was correct before you put a lynch vote on him. you aren't town, simple as that.

I have no idea that JKL claims a cop and has investigate ability, If so he was incredibly lucky to "pick Mada" at random and he lied by saying it was a "dream" and thats all I had to go on at that point.

my #clean/deface role is only able to be used when a player is dead not on protecting/changing role PMs etc? It is a Mafia role from waht I can read above when changing inforamation, but waht good is it when the player is already dead?
Hoodlum wrote:
Abs
Anyway, I stand by my original post that JKL must be CIA. I have no other reason to lynch anyone else therefore #lynch JKL

and this kind of definitely makes me think you are RESEARCHER
Hoodlum wrote:
I am not discounting that jkl isn't CIA. What i do know, is that he was right about mada. did you bother to say, good job jkl? :)