Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated

Hey guys, I am on my phone right now but will be catching up when I get home tonight and make a more informed response to the discussion.

i'm leaning towards, not the cop.

i have made the strongest claims and posted the most info that can not be verified without killing me [b]BUT[/b] killing me by lynch or at night will only verify my claims and not provide additional info. same thing for orz, hood, or anybody since we do not have conflicting claims now like we did yesterday (with 3 claims of tracker). killing me will show that i am truthing and only confirm that jkl has a vac cert. since nobody else is making claims - no other info can be verified by their death except for their role claims. it sounds like i'm saying that i am the logical choice to kill but i am not - just asking if anybody else has made claims about themselves or another player that can be verified or refuted in any way except by their death? and don't bother lynching me - elite will kill me if i'm the only one threatening them. hey - what would it hurt if you are vaccinated and were given another vac cert on night 1 to tell us? it should not make you more of a target and it would let us know that the 2 unvax do not have a vac cert and make the job of me and the other cop more effective.

[quote=Hoodlum]The unvaxxed are desperate to lynch an Elite soon. How do they go about it? The Elite are in a good position, have they found each other, did they know eachother from the start? Can one of the shoot the other accidentally? The only useful power vaxxed elysium s now dead. Time to wake up! How about we analyse elysium's game. [/quote] The Elite know each other from the start, yes. At least that's how it was in the cancelled game.

TLM elite won't kill you. how are you threatening to them? you haven't done anything. why choose to inspect jkl of all players? has he even said a word? what was the decision thinking there? i get no read from him. was it a hunch. i thought it was pretty obvious to inspect pygmy, but perhaps you knew pygmy was going to die.

[quote=LandoCalriskian][quote=Hoodlum]The unvaxxed are desperate to lynch an Elite soon. How do they go about it? The Elite are in a good position, have they found each other, did they know eachother from the start? Can one of the shoot the other accidentally? The only useful power vaxxed elysium s now dead. Time to wake up! How about we analyse elysium's game. [/quote] The Elite know each other from the start, yes. At least that's how it was in the cancelled game.[/quote] good to know. that's very useful!

i am a threat to the elite if i am the only one sharing solid info that helps vac win and promoting full disclosure from all. i did think pyg would die and did not want to waste my inspection on him. jkl - no reason except that he claimed vac but not vanilla - who would you like me to inspect and report on? claiming something at this point is useless but the only ones that have not claimed vax is blue and hood - hood has said he claimed it but has not actually claimed it. he will again say he has but will again not be able to reference the post where he claimed it. again, not due to the claim or lack of claim but another of his side stepping the question likely with another question. we have 4 people left who have claimed vanilla vax in post order of the claim - ryo - 7, rock - 16, mada - 20, r4w - 98. 5 that claim vax but did not claim vanilla - jkl -22, orz - 31, tenn -55, 2oc - 84, lando - 131 2 that have not claimed - blue, hood and good night

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Ryomyr]It's starting to feel like something went terribly wrong with the communication in the anonymous chat before/during night #1... [/quote] Maybe or the elite have complete control of it.[/quote] FYI, CLubs, when I was in the Unvaccinated camp last game, we had the Anonymous chat, and in that chat we were told by Anax that there was 1 elite in the chat posing as an anonymous. So, there can't be more than one, although you may be right, if the elite have a chat of their own then they could be coordinating that. I don't know if they do have a separate chat. Does anyone know if they do?

[quote=Hoodlum]TLM, Isn't it odd that the jailer who jailed you died? The doctor that gave you a certificate died? You must be playing a masterful game in those anonymous chats. [/quote] interesting. I am about to crash, so I can't comb through the threat to verify if what Hood says here is true, but if it is, it could be something.

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Hoodlum]And all you've said so far is that you were jailed. You inspected jkl, and jkl can't help you out there either. So, let's vote hood! just because it's hood :) [/quote] Working from phone at remote camp cite. IA leads said I was a cop last game and players do not know when they are investigated. Real cops are not speaking up be cause they are speaking. Lots of confusion and mis Direct being posted. Lynch ORZ[b] #Lynch ORZ [/b] This will tell me a lot.[/quote] Based on what I am seeing so far with the interactions here I am leaning toward [b]#Lynch Orzhovboss [/b] I reserve the right to change my mind, but for now that is where I am leaning.

[quote=Rockbert][quote=2ofclubs][quote=Hoodlum]And all you've said so far is that you were jailed. You inspected jkl, and jkl can't help you out there either. So, let's vote hood! just because it's hood :) [/quote] Working from phone at remote camp cite. IA leads said I was a cop last game and players do not know when they are investigated. Real cops are not speaking up be cause they are speaking. Lots of confusion and mis Direct being posted. Lynch ORZ[b] #Lynch ORZ [/b] This will tell me a lot.[/quote] Based on what I am seeing so far with the interactions here I am leaning toward [b]#Lynch Orzhovboss [/b] I reserve the right to change my mind, but for now that is where I am leaning. [/quote] Can you elaborate? What about the interactions, specifically, is leading you (and Clubs) to this vote?

correction - hood has now claimed vanilla post 395 and [quote]I bet ya 11000 tokens I am right at the end of the game! Any takers?[/quote] - right about what specifically? yes - i will take that bet, depending on what you say right now. oh and 2oc has said several times including this game and past games that he does not lie. post 372 on pg 25 he states that "100% he is not elite" i believe that is true and he is not elite but one of the remaining 2 unvax. [b]2ofClubs[/b] - will you clearly state 100% that you are a vaccinated player in this game - no word plays?

The question "Can you elaborate? What about the interactions, specifically, is leading you (and Clubs) to this vote?" is for Rockbert and Clubs.

[quote=Tennesseelogman]correction - hood has now claimed vanilla post 395 and [quote]I bet ya 11000 tokens I am right at the end of the game! Any takers?[/quote] - right about what specifically? yes - i will take that bet, depending on what you say right now. oh and 2oc has said several times including this game and past games that he does not lie. post 372 on pg 25 he states that "100% he is not elite" i believe that is true and he is not elite but one of the remaining 2 unvax. [b]2ofClubs[/b] - will you clearly state 100% that you are a vaccinated player in this game - no word plays?[/quote] I have limited time this morning, TN. I am interested in the direction you are heading. I also really like these questions!

[quote=Ryomyr][quote=Rockbert][quote=2ofclubs][quote=Hoodlum]And all you've said so far is that you were jailed. You inspected jkl, and jkl can't help you out there either. So, let's vote hood! just because it's hood :) [/quote] Working from phone at remote camp cite. IA leads said I was a cop last game and players do not know when they are investigated. Real cops are not speaking up be cause they are speaking. Lots of confusion and mis Direct being posted. Lynch ORZ[b] #Lynch ORZ [/b] This will tell me a lot.[/quote] Based on what I am seeing so far with the interactions here I am leaning toward [b]#Lynch Orzhovboss [/b] I reserve the right to change my mind, but for now that is where I am leaning. [/quote] Can you elaborate? What about the interactions, specifically, is leading you (and Clubs) to this vote? [/quote] tbh I don't know either It seems to be based off the fact I no lynched earlier, but I have already explained that. Here it is again: I voted no lynched before most evidence got out, and then didn't have time to update my vote. If I was trying to "lay low" I would have voted Abs, who was gonna die no matter who I voted for.