Prisoners

[quote=2ofclubs]before the song and dance starts. well played Ely. 2ofclubs said: 16 Aug 2021, 19:25 [b]#I choose to pray for Elysium allegiance[/b] Madagascarter said: 17 Aug 2021, 20:50 Last night, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx blah blah xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [b]A feeling of anger overwhelmed you and you discovered he/she is a mafia and an enemy The Prisoners[/b][/quote] I am reading fast and need to reread, but THIS HAS TO BE TRUE! I love this character and I can't wait to #LUNCH ELYSIUM5

[quote=Kyla]so it looks like you 2 are not going to listen to me anymore but I was just wondering, what's OSOP ?[/quote] I am listening. I am not committing to anything besides [b]#LYNCH ELYSIUM[/b] I have disclosed enough and what I haven't isn't relevant. Most of prisoners power is dead. My only regret is Gaffing early in saying Prisoner for the prisoner. Also not being able to save V98. Lets call it collateral damage in not giving up another good to the gallows pole.

Here is my PM with Kyla from day 1. I took some calculated risk and didn't get much back on her at all. Then again it was the same with GOOD Mdhaglund. As you can see Ely was sus from the start and I tried over an over to get Kyla to share. [b]D1[/b] From: 2ofclubs To: Madagascarter, Kyla 2ofclubs said: 06 Aug 2021, 02:41 Hello laundry occupant. I have responded to TennessseLogMan with I am a prisoner with no special powers. I have played mafia with all the others in the room. Ely is good, TLM is hard to believe/trust but can be a good ali, Mdhag is usually on the up an up. But we are all liars. Dont give up to much info. Kyla said: 06 Aug 2021, 07:24 hey 2ofclubs, sorry what do you mean "Mdhag is usually on the up an up"? like a trusted person? I can't remember the last game I was in but it feels like years, I only really remember ely from the group we're in and I found him hard to read back then so he's probably harder to read now lol 2ofclubs said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:47 MDHag Trustable. Ely is hard to read and so is virtuosity. [b]D2[/b] 2ofclubs said: 09 Aug 2021, 04:11 I am trusting you! Something weird happened to me last night - it had good results that I will share later when we have a proven prisoner outside our group. What was your night like? Do you have a name? If there is a mafia in our group its Ely or mada, Mada has responded to me. I believe TLM was targeted because he is good at making sub groups and the amount of talking he did shows that. I don't think they see me as a threat and easy to read (even though I won last mafia game with Rhiesel). With that said Rhiesel knows my style too. Anax and Ely know my tells. Kyla said: 09 Aug 2021, 08:07 Hey clubs, I think Vicious said she was a guard in the forums but not sure what her ability is. I thought it would be best to tell you in PM over the group chat. I do feel like I trust you the most out of the group but I just don't have much to go on with the other 2. I don't think anyone targeted me but not sure how to know for sure? I was also leaning towards trusting TLM as well but I just didn't know if he's always talkative or something. do you really not have a name /role or know what crime you done? what do you think of Anax this game? I feel like I need to reread everything lol, I was suspicious of him when he was suspicious of V98 because I thought he was town at the time (for sharing the info about abs) but it's really hard to think anything of people I haven't talked to Abs also said: Shjenke also mentioned that they think Elysium is the murderer, care to expand why SHJENKE? but I have no idea what that means or if he was saying that to save his skin, I'll ask in the thread when I can, I'm not sure if that means either Shjenke or Elysium is mafia? I'm really curious to talk to other people in the game but can't, if someone does have the ability to assign people to rooms they must be mafia, right? do you know rheisel in real life? Do you have any idea if they're mafia or prisoner? 2ofclubs said: 09 Aug 2021, 15:58 A lot Q's. I will underline the main stuff. I don't know any players in real life. [b]I am a prisoner with a # not a name. [/b] Don't know my crime but I have repented. I have been trying the angle of to see if someone lies/gives me a name vs a # claiming prisoner. No luck. Room assigner is Mafia or neutral? abs said the rooms were assigned by a mafia or neutral and there is at least 1 neutral or Mafia in each room. ????? We know V98 has the ability to move players and I am pretty sure he wasn't in his cell last night (probably out killing TLM) . Anax probably prisoner. Ely is on my watch list as mafia. SHJENKE is 100% prisoner. Anax, Ely and V98 will mis lead, feed false info! i.e Anax will vote to kill aka fellow mafia V98 "misleading" when they really wont be killed for numerous reasons. Don't have much to go with anyone else. There are common game abilities such as police, Investigator, doctor, ...... I have heard nothing from Mdhag. elysium5 said: 09 Aug 2021, 00:59 Yes, I see same groups, different rooms. A little odd. Note that he had 4 with TLM Elysium5 TLM. 4 Elysium5 Kyla. 1 Elysium5 2ofclubs 0 Elysium5 Mdhaglund. 0 Kyla TLM. 3 Kyla 2ofclubs 3 Kyla Mdhaglund. 1 TLM 2ofclubs 4 TLM Mdhaglund. 2 2ofclubs Mdhaglund. 0 Given this Scenerio, If he targets me he will have reduced your communication to a Mafia, Mdhag and open forum by keeping the same players in rooms. [b]D3[/b] To: Madagascarter, Kyla 2ofclubs said: 11 Aug 2021, 22:23 Hello I am still trusting you. So I will risk this; 98.555% sure Lando is mafia and 99.9% Viciuos and Shjenke are good prisoners. 75% Anax is good Can you get anything out of Mdhag or Ely who would be our group mafia if we truly have mafia in each group. Strange that Bluegoetz is the only one that voted rouge. And voted SHJENKE when I said 100% was good. Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 02:04 I suspect Lando as well but why do you? I suspect you the lest in the group but I feel bit nervous since everyone in our group voted V98 when I don't understand why he was lynched at all I will send pm to both the other 2 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 02:21 Lando voted SHjenke when I said he was 100% good prisoner. Vague posts. Based on if each group has a mafia theory. Laundry Landocalriskan ???? Vicious 100% Good prisoner SHJENKE 100% Good prisoner I am good, ref google my # LOL no lie At the end I new V98 was good but the votes were already stacked against him. To avoid his ability possibly going to a mafia given some games the mafia killer inherits the victims ability, lynch was best. my message in group chat hints to how I know about good prisoners. I am surly a target tonight. I highly suspect Ely as mafia and Mdhag as the other neutral. I have several PMs with them and get no response or response of off the wall irrelevant stuff or deflection. I hope if we have a protector beside V98, I am protected. Now there is some shared info trusting you are good too. Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 02:47 Sorry I'm at work at the moment but will analyse and reply to you soon 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 03:03 I will be off work in 2.5 hrs (10pm here). Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:09 so I sent a PM to both of the others but no word yet. Ely hasn't been online again but Mdhaglund has I suspect Landocalriskan about 40%. you were giving very strong hints, I think you should hint in the group to for someone to protect you, I'm not sure how tho. what do you think we should do? I would like to lynch someone ASAP tomorrow so that they can defend themselves, and if their argument is good I will withdraw Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:10 by group I mean forum, I think if mafia are even concerned about you being protected, they won't target you Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:12 what I'm wondering is, did the doctor save someone from being killed or did someone role block the kill 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:14 I will hint that I am protected. I may just come strait out and accuse Lando as bad. What ability do you have? you can be Vague. 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:17 I think it was blocked. the doc usually has to pick in advance who to heal. Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:22 it's really hard to be vague, anything I say and you would know what it is, is that clue enough lol sorry 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:22 I am in a game so I am not totally focused. 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:26 Well are you convinced that I am good? This is hard with limited chat. Dang ran out of time on turn LOL 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:32 Your not the doctor, probably not the inspector, IDK They will she a lot chat between us. Thats ok. Its disturbing that Ely and Mdhag are not chatting. Do we have Lando mafia and Ely & Mdhag as mafia and neut??? Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:39 it's algood, I'm distracted as well. yeah I think Lando mafia and Ely & Mdhag are suss, it's hard with Ely & Mdhag because they're just not really communicating 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 06:39 Janitors Elysium5 Mafia Mdhaglund Neutral Kyla Good 2ofClubs Good Gardening Anaxagore possibly good Rockbert ? Rheisel ? Bluegoetz Mafia ? Laundry Landocalriskan mafia Vicious Good prisoner SHJENKE Good prisoner 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 07:17 I've pretty much disclosed all to you. A question I have is does this mean anything to you. "on a castle on a cloud where there are no floors to sweep" 2 am bedtime i will check in 8 hrs and monitor up to the dead line. then monitor the votes and lack a votes. Phase change is 1/2 Hour after I start work. Luckily I have Friday off so I can battle up to the vote deadline Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 07:39 sorry I don't know what you mean by "on a castle on a cloud where there are no floors to sweep"? I think you know what my ability is too, if I don't die in the night I can probably trust you. mafia would probably want to kill me first. PROBABLY. all I know is that if I listen to probability, Landocalriskan is likely mafia 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 15:00 Both mdhag and Ely have been on line and all I got was speculation and more info request from Ely. No sharing and his tight lip probably means he is scum and certainly not helping prisoners. 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 15:14 This is my last share to Ely. Lets see if he shares facts. Or if this info is leaked. 2ofclubs said: 12 Aug 2021, 15:11 My info is coming from whats called a shared homing pigeon but I don't know if the other party is for prisoners or scum mafia. I ruled out that its NOT the last neutral. Can/will you share facts? Prisoner 24601. Note that's 3 more facts shared. [b]Isolated D4[/b] [b]D5[/b] 2ofclubs said: 17 Aug 2021, 21:31 Hello we survived the night. We need to completely trust to survive. I was isolated by Vicious and that was why I was absent the other day. I hope you figured that out. Her role also explains why some were quiet/ in active. Kyla said: 18 Aug 2021, 01:52 I thought that's why you were absent, I thought you were lynching me and the end of the day? 2ofclubs said: 18 Aug 2021, 01:58 No, just trying to get more info on your ability. Did you steal ELy's vote or can you knock people out? Seriously I am good with no abilities now. Kyla said: 18 Aug 2021, 05:18 sorry I don't have any abilities and only 1 vote so who do you think is the teams 8. Rheisel - I think they're good, chance they're neutral but I don't think so 6. Anaxagore - Neutral? 1. Elysium5 Mafia? 9. Bluegoetz Mafia? how reliable is your bird, is there a chance SHJENKE is bad? 2ofclubs said: 18 Aug 2021, 05:53 Like I said in group chat ...... just expanded /added 2ofclubs said: 17 Aug 2021, 22:53 1. Elysium5 Guard OSOP ....... everything in print says its true - maybe neutral 3. Kyla P?G OSOP 4. 2ofClubs Prisoner OSOP .......100% TRUE 6. Anaxagore Mafia ....... maybe neutral 8. Rheisel Neutral ....... maybe Mafia - has a lot of info and in the last minute switched to good Lando 9. Bluegoetz Mafia 14 SHJENKE P?G on side of prisoners ....... 100% 100% reliable just ndon't know if Prisoner or Guard Kyla said: 18 Aug 2021, 07:07 can I see the message from mada where it says SHJENKE is good? sorry you probably posted it but I'm not sure where it is Kyla said: 18 Aug 2021, 07:10 never mind I found it Kyla said: 18 Aug 2021, 07:12 why did you add all these XXXXXXX Madagascarter said: 08 Aug 2021, 22:53 Last night, youXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX to SHJENKE’s cell and XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. A feeling of peace overwhelmed you that he/she is a friend and is on the side of The Prisoners Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:02 Last night, youXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX to Vicious’ cell and xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. A feeling of peace overwhelmed you that he/she is a friend and is on the side of The Prisoners 2ofclubs said: 18 Aug 2021, 07:22 Because that's info I don't want to share. There were claims with out proof that I visited Y98 cells and this would give a player back peddling info to cover their lie and at the time info to possibly block my bird. I think it was sort of an ability to balance the mafia night cell phones. Will you tell me if your a guard or prisoner? Oh is my bird in your cell? I think it was with Vicious and was killed. I haven't seen it since I went to isolation. Kyla said: 18 Aug 2021, 07:32 no I haven't seen your bird sorry, do you get to choose where it goes? where did you try make it go? I'm just a prisoner, I shared my role PM in the fourm 2ofclubs said: 18 Aug 2021, 07:53 I didn't get to choose. "you’ve been receiving'' It was like mail delivered to the wrong address or right address but for former occupants. I don't want to disclose more in case its still active. Kyla said: 18 Aug 2021, 08:23 oooooooohhhh ok, who do you think would be the best to lynch? we should probably question Bluegoetz more since he hasn't been very active. I don't think he even talked yesterday, hopefully they can get something out of him today, I wonder if he forgot to play 2ofclubs said: 18 Aug 2021, 16:26 Strange Interesting Ely missed voting too. Could be simple mistake. I say lynch Blue.

Call me Rheisel LOL

[quote=2ofclubs]before the song and dance starts. well played Ely. 2ofclubs said: 16 Aug 2021, 19:25 [b]#I choose to pray for Elysium allegiance[/b] Madagascarter said: 17 Aug 2021, 20:50 Last night, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx blah blah xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [b]A feeling of anger overwhelmed you and you discovered he/she is a mafia and an enemy The Prisoners[/b][/quote] Funny you left this convo out, Clubs: [quote][b][user]2ofclubs[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]17 Aug 2021, 21:38[/size] Hey, I also don't fully trust Kyla but didn't want to give that out. She has suggested some crazy stuff and continues to question my PM even though its been put out there 1/2 dozen times. I would say she may be neutral. Just in case you think I said the same to her about you, here. Message: D5 Janitors Clubs to Kyla From: 2ofclubs To: Madagascarter, Kyla 2ofclubs said: 17 Aug 2021, 21:31 Hello we survived the night. We need to completely trust to survive. I was isolated by Vicious and that was why I was absent the other day. I hope you figured that out. Her role also explains why some were quiet/ in active. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]17 Aug 2021, 21:45[/size] I am curious as to why she has pointed her finger at me a few times now as suspect mafia but hasn't given out her role... Also, I just buggered up and posted in the main thread when I wasn't supposed to. No one else was online and it was only up for a few minutes before I deleted it except for you> I'm sure I pissed Mada off but I don't think I did any harm. All I posted was what I first posted in our group chat. Just a copy and paste. The second thing I posted was a comparison of part of the roles given to both Vicious, a guard and me, a guard. Did you see it? [hr] [b][user]2ofclubs[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]17 Aug 2021, 22:10[/size] No. I didn't. speaking of mis-post, I was sure everyone would take my absence as I saw mada's mafia team post. And would be dead. LOL Well now I am just using up air and no threat with my ability gone (I think Vicious was the owner of the pigeon). Kyla has pointed at me several times too. [hr] [b][user]elysium5[/user] said:[/b] [size=12px]17 Aug 2021, 22:37[/size] I pointed out that part of Vicious role PM(including the bold and larger letters): [b]Despite your security guard status, [size=18px]no-one likes you [u][i]so your vote counts as 1[/i][/u].[/b][/size] and my role: [b]You have no special abilities but even though you are known to be tough [size=18px]you are also known to be fair so because the prisoners respect you [u][i]your vote during the voting phase counts as 2[/b][/size][/i][/u] So I got no special abilities and an and extra vote whereas she got one of each. There is no way I could have faked the phrasing similarity as to why she got 1 vote and I got 2 with the like vs dis-like phrasing in the role PM. [hr] [/quote] If someone didn't steal my 2 votes last night I would definitely vote to #[b]Lynch 2ofclubs[/b]

2ofclubs, you've been in the same room as Ely and Kyla since the beginning, can you post how much they talked to each other every day please?

I want town to win, obviously, as that means I will win but like Mada said, be careful. One mis-lynch and we will probably lose.

Bluegoetz Rockbert 8 Day 3 these two talked a bit. is it enough to believe they are not in the same team?

@elysium, if 2ofclubs is mafia, who would be with him according to you?

Elysium5 Kyla. 1 is that it between these 2?

Elysium5 Kyla. 1 Elysium5 2ofclubs 1 Elysium5 Mdhaglund. 1 Kyla 2ofclubs 3 Kyla Mdhaglund 0 2ofclubs Mdhaglund. 0 Elysium5 Kyla. 3 Elysium5 2ofclubs 6 Elysium5 Mdhaglund. 0 Kyla 2ofclubs 20 Kyla Mdhaglund 2 2ofclubs Mdhaglund. 0 2ofclubs Elysium5 - 4 2ofclubs Kyla - 13 Elysium5 Kyla - 2

Elysium5 TLM. 4 Elysium5 Kyla. 1 Elysium5 2ofclubs 0 Elysium5 Mdhaglund. 0 Kyla TLM. 3 Kyla 2ofclubs 3 Kyla Mdhaglund. 1 TLM 2ofclubs 4 TLM Mdhaglund. 2 2ofclubs Mdhaglund. 0 missed one

[spoiler] Kyla said: 06 Aug 2021, 07:27 am hey :) what crime did you do to get in here? [/spoiler] [spoiler] Kyla said: 09 Aug 2021, 06:33 pm hey ely, haven't heard from you yet, do you suspect anyone? [/spoiler] [spoiler] Kyla said: 12 Aug 2021, 02:08 am 2ofclubs is saying Lando is mafia and 99.9% Viciuos and Shjenke are good prisoners. 75% Anax is good I'm thinking either you or Mdhag are mafia but I'm not sure who yet. Did you find out in the night? elysium5 said: 12 Aug 2021, 12:40 pm Clubs is also claiming to know things and that he has revealed things but really he hasn't said anything that isn't just speculation and theory and it is based on absolutely nothing. I don't know why Md has been so silent or why Clubs thinks what he thinks about Lando, Vicious and Shjenke. elysium5 said: 12 Aug 2021, 04:19 pm I'm not tr4usting Clubs at all right now. He keeps saying he is providing facts but all he is providing is speculation and accusing me of being suspect for not giving him my role. I also asked how he has had outside communication. He said something about homing pigeon but that it could be misleading? Did he say anything to you about that? I don't think either you or I have spent as much time as we normally like to do collaborating during a game but I need to figure out a starting point for trust. Md has been silent in our group and Clubs seems a little too aggressive in trying to force info without actually giving up anything tangible. I am not mafia. Why would you suspect that I am? Did somebody say something or are you just going with Clubs? I would like to trust you but I don't know how to do that at this point. [/spoiler] [spoiler] sorry ely from my view you just seem like the likely mafia, now that 2ofClubs is acting odd about his pigeon I don't know about him anymore too. Would be interesting if he was mafia with SHJENKE 4. 2ofClubs - not sure why he's being so secretive about his ability Spoiler (click to hide) Madagascarter said: 08 Aug 2021, 22:53 Last night, youXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX to SHJENKE’s cell and XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. A feeling of peace overwhelmed you that he/she is a friend and is on the side of The Prisoners Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:02 Last night, youXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX to Vicious’ cell and xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. A feeling of peace overwhelmed you that he/she is a friend and is on the side of The Prisoners 6. Anaxagore - seems he was truthful about his ability since he took votes from you, it doesn't seem like a neutral ability right? but why would he hold out on telling everyone, he was the last to say 8. Rheisel - probably OK 9. Bluegoetz - mafia? no word 14. SHJENKE - no word elysium5 said: 18 Aug 2021, 02:38 pm Clubs is doing some funny things and is messaging me behind your back telling me he does not trust you that much. You haven't shared anything with me. Care to share your role PM? I put mine out in the forums already. [/spoiler]

[quote=elysium5]I want town to win, obviously, as that means I will win but like Mada said, be careful. One mis-lynch and we will probably lose.[/quote] Like I said [b]I WONT MIS LYNCH[/b]

Kyla 's messages with elysium looks real Looking to see messages between Rock and Bluegotz