Prisoners

[quote=rheisel]I don't see Ely's vote for Vicious...where was that?[/quote] No Vicious voted for Elysium5

Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 07:10 pm You were knocked out. You may not use any day actions and your night actions last night were blocked LandoCalriskian said: 11 Aug 2021, 07:42 pm Can I still talk during the work phase? Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 07:54 pm You can talk during this phase Here’s the consequences of being knocked out. My action is only a day action, I do not have any night actions. Assuming it’s a copy paste from mada to anyone who gets knocked out regardless of their role. Basically confirms that knocking someone out takes away their actions during the workday phase and night phase.

Ely hasn't voted. = To answer your question for now, reisel, I think I will likely be joining your vote on Lando. Post #475 Its Vicious voting for Ely = Post #441 Yes I may changing my vote

2ofclubs, what result did you get night 2??

we have to organise what we do tonight

[quote=Anaxagore]2ofclubs, what result did you get night 2??[/quote] Do to my 2 isolation's, I only got SHJENKE and Vicious. If a player is switched confuses the bird.

I only have 9 min but will try and sneak a peak for new developments. I am leaning to follow Rheisel.

Ok, this is taking some time. I'll post what I have found so far. It is a lot, sorry: [spoiler]The first reference. It came from V98 in this post: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69063#post-69063 It is under the D0 Gardening, full chat spoiler. This is the actual quote: [quote]Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 11:19 Less than 8hrs until voting phase. I'd like to see more discussion here if it's alright with everyone :) [b][size=18px]Someone as their night action during N0 decided who to put in each room (gardening, janitor, laundry). Clearly, that person is not one of the innocent good guys, so the room chooser is either mafia (most likely) or neutral. So I'm looking at the list of players and wondering, why would a mafia/neutral put those certain players together? Who would the mafia NOT want to be in a room with? Would the mafia choose to be all in one room, or would they prefer to be spread out, 1 in each room? Of course, if the room organiser is neutral, these questions become a little redundant. But they're definitely worth considering, since we have basically nothing else to think about so far.[/size][/b] Unless anyone wants to go full trust and share something about their role?[/quote] From the same post in the Chat V98/Abs23 spoiler I found couple other possible references: [quote]Abs23 said: 05 Aug 2021, 19:50 I’m not familiar with perhaps this format[b][size=18px] but I have played mafia and set Tasks in working day[/size][/b] before dtcsnd understand another group work in the night and one Person is killed in each right? Virtuosity98 said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:02 Ok ok, well you should know Mada is renowned for unpredictable setups with his games, so who knows what abilities are lurking out there :( Usually the mafia group gets 1 kill per night phase. What did you mean to say when you wrote "dtcsnd"? Abs23 said: 05 Aug 2021, 20:11 Was only saying and is all. Just a typo[/quote] and [quote]Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:34 I haven't told anyone anything about me. I'm thinking about telling you, and only you. That way, I can tell if the info gets out, you betrayed me ;) So if you want me to tell you my action, I'll do it if you tell me yours. I'll keep the secret until you let me share it. Deal? Only 25mins to the deadline, so reply quick if you'd like to trade info privately :) Abs23 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:45 Hi, I missed the deadline but let’s talk tomorrow Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:46 Deadline isn't missed yet Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:46 15mins left. [b][size=18px]And tomorrow we might not be in the same room.[/size][/b][/quote] note, this last reference: [i][size=12px]Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 18:46 15mins left. And tomorrow we might not be in the same room[/size][/i].was repeated in this post: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69066#post-69066 and this post: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69072#post-69072 We know V98 was town and we know Abs was Neut but it seems this is where it originated. Perhaps via a conversation with someone else early on? It really seemed to originate with V98 so someone must have said something to him and he seemed pretty clear that he thought it was a mafia action. Now Clubs seems to be the first one to bring up the question: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69117#post-69117 [quote]2ofclubs wrote: Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 16:07 Post #97 also I don't want to risk voting and killing off a unfortunate prisoner or good guard. I need more PM to align the shivs, [b][size=18px]How do we know a player assigns rooms and not the moderator/random? The 1st room assignment was by game sign up order.[/size][/b][/quote] Then all of a sudden there is Abs with this statement that seems pretty sure about it: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69121#post-69121 [quote]Abs23 wrote: Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 16:16 Post #101 [quote]2ofclubs also I don't want to risk voting and killing off a unfortunate prisoner or good guard. I need more PM to align the shivs, How do we know a player assigns rooms and not the moderator/random? The 1st room assignment was by game sign up order.[/quote] [b][size=18px]This isn’t true, the rooms were assigned by a mafia or neutral and there is at least 1 neutral or Mafia in each room.[/size][/b][/quote] Clubs repeats the question in this post: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69125#post-69125 [quote]2ofclubs wrote: Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 16:21 Post #105 [quote]Abs23 [quote]2ofclubs also I don't want to risk voting and killing off a unfortunate prisoner or good guard. I need more PM to align the shivs, How do we know a player assigns rooms and not the moderator/random? The 1st room assignment was by game sign up order.[/quote] Can we PM again now? Happy to PM[/quote] When we can PM, we can only PM with in our rooms. [b][size=18px]How do we know a player assigns rooms and not the moderator/random? Did I miss something?[/size][/b][/quote] Clubs comments on it again here: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69128#post-69128 [quote]2ofclubs wrote: Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 16:46 Post #108 [quote]Abs23 [quote]2ofclubs also I don't want to risk voting and killing off a unfortunate prisoner or good guard. I need more PM to align the shivs, How do we know a player assigns rooms and not the moderator/random? The 1st room assignment was by game sign up order.[/quote] This isn’t true, the rooms were assigned by a mafia or neutral and there is at least 1 neutral or Mafia in each room.[/quote] [b][size=18px]Hmmm the 1st room assignment if by a player, is coincidentally same as sign up order. Bottom line: no proof you can only win mafia powers, powers go back, or room assignment method. [/size][/b] Even though you're at the gallows pole, your disclosure is spotty and and frantic.[/quote] Abs again here: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69133#post-69133 [quote]Abs23 wrote: Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 16:58 Post #113 Here is where v98 tells us all in gardening room that it’s organised by a neutral or mafia Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 11:19 Less than 8hrs until voting phase. I'd like to see more discussion here if it's alright with everyone :) [b][size=18px]Someone as their night action during N0 decided who to put in each room (gardening, janitor, laundry). Clearly, that person is not one of the innocent good guys, so the room chooser is either mafia (most likely) or neutral. So I'm looking at the list of players and wondering, why would a mafia/neutral put those certain players together? Who would the mafia NOT want to be in a room with? Would the mafia choose to be all in one room, or would they prefer to be spread out, 1 in each room? Of course, if the room organiser is neutral, these questions become a little redundant. But they're definitely worth considering, since we have basically nothing else to think about so far. Is it usually random allocation on first turn and v98 is lying?[/size][/b][/quote] And Abs again: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69135#post-69135 [quote]Abs23 wrote: Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 17:03 Modified: 07 Aug 2021, 17:03 Post #115 [quote]2ofclubs [quote]Abs23 [quote]2ofclubs also I don't want to risk voting and killing off a unfortunate prisoner or good guard. I need more PM to align the shivs, [b][size=18px]How do we know a player assigns rooms and not the moderator/random? The 1st room assignment was by game sign up order.[/quote] [b]This isn’t true, the rooms were assigned by a mafia or neutral and there is at least 1 neutral or Mafia in each room.[/b][/quote] [b][size=18px]Hmmm the 1st room assignment if by a player, is coincidentally same as sign up order. Bottom line: no proof you can only win mafia powers, powers go back, or room assignment method. [/size][/b] Even though you're at the gallows pole, your disclosure is spotty and and frantic.[/quote] Did you see v98 message to our room? [b][size=18px]Someone as their night action during N0 decided who to put in each room (gardening, janitor, laundry). Clearly, that person is not one of the innocent good guys, so the room chooser is either mafia (most likely) or neutral. So I'm looking at the list of players and wondering, why would a mafia/neutral put those certain players together? Who would the mafia NOT want to be in a room with? Would the mafia choose to be all in one room, or would they prefer to be spread out, 1 in each room? Of course, if the room organiser is neutral, these questions become a little redundant. But they're definitely worth considering, since we have basically nothing else to think about so far.[/size][/b][/quote] Clubs questions again: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69139#post-69139 [quote]2ofclubs wrote: Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 18:19 Post #119 [b][size=18px]HOW DOES V98 KNOW THIS ? I SEE NOTHING THAT BACKS THIS AND V98 ISN'T GREEN ENOUGH TO SAY THIS IF HE WAS THE NEUTRAL /MAFIA ASSIGNER OR IS HE? As a neut he wouldn't lynch a neutral :p[/size][/b] Virtuosity98 said: 06 Aug 2021, 11:19 Less than 8hrs until voting phase. I'd like to see more discussion here if it's alright with everyone :) [b][size=18px]Someone as their night action during N0 decided who to put in each room (gardening, janitor, laundry). Clearly, that person is not one of the innocent good guys, so the room chooser is either mafia (most likely) or neutral. So I'm looking at the list of players and wondering, why would a mafia/neutral put those certain players together? Who would the mafia NOT want to be in a room with? Would the mafia choose to be all in one room, or would they prefer to be spread out, 1 in each room? Of course, if the room organiser is neutral, these questions become a little redundant. But they're definitely worth considering, since we have basically nothing else to think about so far. HOW DOES V98 KNOW THIS ? I SEE NOTHING THAT BACKS THIS AND V98 ISN'T GREEN ENOUGH TO SAY THIS IF HE WAS THE ASSIGNER OR IS HE :p[/size][/b][/quote] Nothing mentioned about it in Abs role reveal death post: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69157#post-69157 Clubs brings it up again: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69191#post-69191 [quote]2ofclubs wrote: Posted: 09 Aug 2021, 20:24 Post #157 [b]Did the other groupings stay the same less the dead?[/b][/quote] Now Virt brings it up: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69211#post-69211 [quote]Virtuosity98 wrote: Posted: 09 Aug 2021, 21:10 Post #176 Virtuosity98 said: 09 Aug 2021, 11:22 Hey, setting up communication for this phase. [b][size=18px]It's interesting that we have been put into the same groups as last time. The mafia are clearly trying to stop the flow of information. I think it's honestly quite likely that me, you and Vicious are all innocents.[/size][/b] I have one question for you: did Madagascarter send you a message at the end of the last phase? https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69212#post-69212 Virtuosity98 wrote: Posted: 09 Aug 2021, 21:11 Post #177 That was to SHJENKE, he didn't reply this time[/quote] Quoted in Clubs post here: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69216#post-69216 [quote]2ofclubs wrote: Posted: 09 Aug 2021, 21:18 Post #181 [quote]Virtuosity98 Virtuosity98 said: 09 Aug 2021, 11:22 Hey, setting up communication for this phase. [b][size=18px]It's interesting that we have been put into the same groups as last time. The mafia are clearly trying to stop the flow of information. I think it's honestly quite likely that me, you and Vicious are all innocents.[/size][/b] I have one question for you: did Madagascarter send you a message at the end of the last phase?[/quote] Who are you asking? I have had several messages. do you have a time stamp to reference?[/quote] Quoted again in Virt's response to that post: https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3652/prisoners/post/69219#post-69219 [quote]Virtuosity98 wrote: Posted: 09 Aug 2021, 21:23 Post #184 [quote]2ofclubs [quote]Virtuosity98 Virtuosity98 said: 09 Aug 2021, 11:22 Hey, setting up communication for this phase. [b][size=18px]It's interesting that we have been put into the same groups as last time. The mafia are clearly trying to stop the flow of information.[/size][/b] I think it's honestly quite likely that me, you and Vicious are all innocents. I have one question for you: did Madagascarter send you a message at the end of the last phase?[/quote] Who are you asking? I have had several messages. do you have a time stamp to reference?[/quote] Sorry that was my single message to SHJENKE today, in our Janitor room. I forgot to make it clear.[/quote][/spoiler]

Look what you guys did made me what up early because I'm worriedabout being lynched ^^

NO only 1 player could use a night action. Room assignment is a lot of power and probably wouldn't have been given to V98 with his other ability. With that said and the read and missing role/ability info. Lando and Kyla stay on my list as neut or mafia. More Kyla since Lando has a gun and was knocked out. I will hold off voting for a few min. for other feed back.

Lol no I don't have a knockout ability,I justttake drugs to cope withlife

But your not worried about being killed in the night???

No one takes mu presure lynches seriously lol, but why haven't you share your role pm @clubs?sorry mada for not lynching properly

Being lynched is different, it doesn't help town, being killed over other town at night does. Like if you lynched me and it would give more info, that'd be useful but you just get 1 less town and have to go to sleep

I am going to switch to Ely, I think.