Prisoners

That was quite the info dump there Rheisel. Or should I call you Crazy Ivan from now on? Not sure what it proves though, other than you seem to be going kamikaze on everyone. Not sure why. Lot of info, lot of fluff and to me no real answers yet. You could easily forge that by the way, I maintain that I did not leave my cell. How do we know you have a camera? are you the detective? If so, why not post your role for all to see? I will say this, I think there is some validity to questioning Mdhaglund and Lando, but I can't say for sure that they're mafia. I also don't know about Anaxagore, I think he is probably prisoner or maybe neutral. But I don't know for sure, I think the last mafia game he pulled a fast one on us and fooled me but I might be remembering it wrong. After reading all that's come out today I don't know where I stand on voting just yet, but I know that I wish we would hear something, ANYTHING from SHJENKE and Vicious. I mean come on man, either play or don't play.

////////////////= my inserts=////////////////////////// [quote=rheisel]And to show that I am not in the forgery business, here's a bit more from my PM with Mada: [spoiler]rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 02:35 [quote]I know 100% SHJENKE IS good prisoner. I can't say how, I am already a target. Read V98 role there is more there. He can use his ability to protect himself and as a mafia that is dangerous. He wasn't protecting SHJenk he was protecting himself. See my posts on ?ing how he knows mafia or neut has the room assignment ability. (2ofClubs)[/quote] Clubs visits Virt98 cell, but find SHJENKE as Virt switched his prisoner self with a guard self. So, SHJENKE comes up as town; even though he is a guard, he is a good guard and for the prisoners. (Per the game intro, "Most guards disagree with the government order and make a pact to protect the prisoners. All the guards who didn’t make the pact was kicked out and then they locked down the prison.";) 2ofClubs sees Virt98's switch of cells as evidence of self-protection (which it was), except he is just a prisoner trying to protect himself. (My guess at this point would be that Virt98 also switched Vicious with another prisoner/guard as he and Vicious had an extended dialogue and maybe some trust built up.) Clubs mistakes(?) the switch of cells as obvious mafia behavior(?), and rallies in the forum at the end of Day1 voting phase to kill Virt. [b]What does Clubs have to say for himself? Was this an innocent mistake? Or, is clubs Mafia [/b]... went to Virt's cell to kill Virtuosity, and found his target was no longer there? rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 02:36 OH SHOOOOOOT .... That was an accident!!! These are my notes to myself!!! Delete, delete!! Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 08:34 This is a good place to write notes to self. I like reading them rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 14:24 lol ... i don't want to miss more clues like i did earlier rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 14:29 During the night chose 2 prisoners/ guards and have them switch cells. If these prisoners/ guards are targeted then the other prisoner/ guard will be effected. I misread this earlier. Virt could only swap 1 pair of prisoners/guards, correct? He could swap prisoners for prisoners or guards for guards and whatnot, but only one such swap. Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 15:17 Sry? Confused. Choose 2 players and have them swap cells. That is what his ability does rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 17:08 thx Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 18:39 Your actions have been noted [b]Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:07 Mdhaglund entered the cell Anaxagore left the cell Anaxagore reentered the cell Rockbert entered the cell Rockbert left the cell Mdhaglund left the cell [/b] Madagascarter said: 12 Aug 2021, 12:26 Janitors 14 messages //////////////// [b]This count is wrong[/b][u] there are 13 more after 11 Aug 2021, 22:06 not including the 1 on 1s[/u] [b]Madagascarter said: 12 Aug 2021, 20:50 Elysium5 Kyla. 3 Elysium5 2ofclubs 6 Elysium5 Mdhaglund. 0 Kyla 2ofclubs 20 Kyla Mdhaglund 2 2ofclubs Mdhaglund. 0[/b] ///////////////////////// [b]Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:12 No messages in forums please. Just here & PM thx elysium5 said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:52 No kill! Kyla said: 11 Aug 2021, 20:43 Hey guys so I'm feeling a bit nervous since everyone here lynched V98, there must be at least 1 mafia here.. At least no one died. Were you all just bang wagoning with killing V98? elysium5 said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:03 I was definitely a bandwagoner, I'm afraid. I pretty much just went along with Anax early because I wasn't going to make it back in time to vote at all. 2ofclubs said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:47 I wasn't band wagoning. but regret losing him. Pretty sure he would have been killed in the night if he wasn't mafia and there was a chance they could get his ability. The only thing I saw was that his PM had the right format for prisoner but he could of got that from someone in his group. 2ofclubs said: 11 Aug 2021, 22:06 So i would like to have some communication (PM) with Ely and Mdhag. Heck I moved from 7 bed 4 car to 3 bed 2 car while fixing a truck and was able to be active. By now you probably have speculated on how I know SHJENKE is good prisoner. Its just not time to reveal.[/spoiler][/quote] [/ /////////////////////////////// Interesting did you bug the janitor closet too? :P And edited the transcript!!! Obviously you cant see 1on1 PM. So you are saying Mdhaglund, Anaxagor and Rockbert are 3 mafia of 4 bad since they had movement at night. yet you question me as mafia. [b]We still need 4 lynching to win[/b] or [u]at least I do[/u]. Madagascarter said: 04 Aug 2021, 20:31 Repentant Prisoner You are a prisoner on the side of The Prisoners. You have repented of your sins and xxxxxxxxxxx. You spend your spare time reading the Bible and in prayer. Recently xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx! During the night phase you receive xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. The Prisoners win when all mafia and neutrals are eliminated.

[quote=2ofclubs]////////////////= my inserts=////////////////////////// [quote=rheisel]And to show that I am not in the forgery business, here's a bit more from my PM with Mada: [spoiler]rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 02:35 [quote]I know 100% SHJENKE IS good prisoner. I can't say how, I am already a target. Read V98 role there is more there. He can use his ability to protect himself and as a mafia that is dangerous. He wasn't protecting SHJenk he was protecting himself. See my posts on ?ing how he knows mafia or neut has the room assignment ability. (2ofClubs)[/quote] Oh wow! No, I don't question you as Mafia. You actually just read me thinking out loud. I send messages to myself, but accidentally put that message into the PM with Mada. Sorry, Clubs! Clubs visits Virt98 cell, but find SHJENKE as Virt switched his prisoner self with a guard self. So, SHJENKE comes up as town; even though he is a guard, he is a good guard and for the prisoners. (Per the game intro, "Most guards disagree with the government order and make a pact to protect the prisoners. All the guards who didn’t make the pact was kicked out and then they locked down the prison.";) 2ofClubs sees Virt98's switch of cells as evidence of self-protection (which it was), except he is just a prisoner trying to protect himself. (My guess at this point would be that Virt98 also switched Vicious with another prisoner/guard as he and Vicious had an extended dialogue and maybe some trust built up.) Clubs mistakes(?) the switch of cells as obvious mafia behavior(?), and rallies in the forum at the end of Day1 voting phase to kill Virt. [b]What does Clubs have to say for himself? Was this an innocent mistake? Or, is clubs Mafia [/b]... went to Virt's cell to kill Virtuosity, and found his target was no longer there? rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 02:36 OH SHOOOOOOT .... That was an accident!!! These are my notes to myself!!! Delete, delete!! Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 08:34 This is a good place to write notes to self. I like reading them rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 14:24 lol ... i don't want to miss more clues like i did earlier rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 14:29 During the night chose 2 prisoners/ guards and have them switch cells. If these prisoners/ guards are targeted then the other prisoner/ guard will be effected. I misread this earlier. Virt could only swap 1 pair of prisoners/guards, correct? He could swap prisoners for prisoners or guards for guards and whatnot, but only one such swap. Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 15:17 Sry? Confused. Choose 2 players and have them swap cells. That is what his ability does rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 17:08 thx Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 18:39 Your actions have been noted [b]Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:07 Mdhaglund entered the cell Anaxagore left the cell Anaxagore reentered the cell Rockbert entered the cell Rockbert left the cell Mdhaglund left the cell [/b] Madagascarter said: 12 Aug 2021, 12:26 Janitors 14 messages //////////////// [b]This count is wrong[/b][u] there are 13 more after 11 Aug 2021, 22:06 not including the 1 on 1s[/u] [b]Madagascarter said: 12 Aug 2021, 20:50 Elysium5 Kyla. 3 Elysium5 2ofclubs 6 Elysium5 Mdhaglund. 0 Kyla 2ofclubs 20 Kyla Mdhaglund 2 2ofclubs Mdhaglund. 0[/b] ///////////////////////// [b]Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:12 No messages in forums please. Just here & PM thx elysium5 said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:52 No kill! Kyla said: 11 Aug 2021, 20:43 Hey guys so I'm feeling a bit nervous since everyone here lynched V98, there must be at least 1 mafia here.. At least no one died. Were you all just bang wagoning with killing V98? elysium5 said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:03 I was definitely a bandwagoner, I'm afraid. I pretty much just went along with Anax early because I wasn't going to make it back in time to vote at all. 2ofclubs said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:47 I wasn't band wagoning. but regret losing him. Pretty sure he would have been killed in the night if he wasn't mafia and there was a chance they could get his ability. The only thing I saw was that his PM had the right format for prisoner but he could of got that from someone in his group. 2ofclubs said: 11 Aug 2021, 22:06 So i would like to have some communication (PM) with Ely and Mdhag. Heck I moved from 7 bed 4 car to 3 bed 2 car while fixing a truck and was able to be active. By now you probably have speculated on how I know SHJENKE is good prisoner. Its just not time to reveal.[/spoiler][/quote] [/ /////////////////////////////// Interesting did you bug the janitor closet too? :P And edited the transcript!!! Obviously you cant see 1on1 PM. So you are saying Mdhaglund, Anaxagor and Rockbert are 3 mafia of 4 bad since they had movement at night. yet you question me as mafia. [b]We still need 4 lynching to win[/b] or [u]at least I do[/u]. Madagascarter said: 04 Aug 2021, 20:31 Repentant Prisoner You are a prisoner on the side of The Prisoners. You have repented of your sins and xxxxxxxxxxx. You spend your spare time reading the Bible and in prayer. Recently xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx! During the night phase you receive xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. The Prisoners win when all mafia and neutrals are eliminated. [/quote]

Clubs broke the forum! I just type a message to go with that quote!! LOL NO, I think 2ofClubs is not mafia! I can provide more rationale to that claim, but I think that SHJENKE, 2ofClubs, and myself are the most sure bet for town that I can currently see. I need to catch up on the forum real quick though.

I placed a camera outside of Anax's cell. It returned this information: [quote]Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:07 Mdhaglund entered the cell Anaxagore left the cell Anaxagore reentered the cell Rockbert entered the cell Rockbert left the cell Mdhaglund left the cell[/quote] I think we should pick one of these players to pressure. Why would they all be in Anax's cell at the same time?

My role: [spoiler][quote]Madagascarter said: 04 Aug 2021, 20:39 Hacker You are a prisoner. Arrested for breaking into the websites of some big companies and stealing millions of dollars. But are on the side of the Prisoners. Just before the Night Phase (like during it but it will not count as leaving your cell) you may place a camera outside a cell to see who enters and who leaves that cell. Also during the night phase choose a room to place a camera in (Laundry, Janitors, Construction or Gardening) and you will receive updates during the day of the main conversation in that room and at the end of the day you’ll see the lengths of the private conversations in that room. The Prisoners win when all mafia and neutrals are eliminated. rheisel said: 04 Aug 2021, 22:00 Sweet! Thx! rheisel said: 07 Aug 2021, 16:26 Just to confirm, the "Construction" room will not be an option going forward, correct? Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2021, 16:35 No, the construction room has been discontinued. rheisel said: 07 Aug 2021, 16:40 Thanks! And, when I install a camera in a room, I have to do it during the Night phase. So, this means that there is a 1 and 3 chance that I will install the camera in the place where I will be for the day? If that happened (camera in same room for example), would that be a total waste of my ability, or do I still have the potential to gain extra info? rheisel said: 07 Aug 2021, 16:42 ^^^I know I get info possibilities outside of this aspect of my ability when I install a camera outside of someone's cell. Madagascarter said: 07 Aug 2021, 16:47 You could be in the room which you install the camera in. As you install that camera at the same time you install your cell cameras rheisel said: 07 Aug 2021, 19:33 I would like my night actions to be: 1. Place camera outside of Virt98's cell 2. Place camera in Janitor's closet (I am hoping for a daily rotation of chores) :) Madagascarter said: 08 Aug 2021, 16:06 Noted[/quote][/spoiler]

On a side note: it is really challenging to play with the different time zones. I wish there was something we could do to make this easier. I reiterate [b]#Lynch Anaxagore. [/b] I will check back in about an hour to see if anyone else has a question.

[b]#Lynch Rockbert[/b]

lol Mdhag lynch Rock Rheisel lynch Anax Clubs lynch Mdhag Well they went to Anaxagor cell I was going to lynch Mdhag before phase started. Since Mdhag is busy moving and wont be very active, probably should change vote. Then again maybe he can concentrate on move. LOL Start combing through data and find that neutral !!!!!! 4 vs 7 We "prisoners and for the prisoners" should have this. Again I am[b] 100%[/b] sure SHJENKE and Viciuos are for the prisoners. 90% Kyla is good. Ely is my neutral sus !

#Unlynch Mdhaglund [b]#Lynch Anaxagor[/b]

2oc I do want to trust you. and think that you are probably telling the truth. if you are not I think the lies will catch up with you fast. I'd like to hear from anax before I vote on him (even though he may hoodwink me). I also think mdhag is very suspicious. keeps jumping on and seems to be ignoring the evidence and chats and just voting. could be busy in real life or could be something else but I don't like it. I had some decent pms with rock last phase and he seems to be keeping a clear head in the chat. so why did you vote to lynch?

Sorry, I have been busy. I wish rhesiel kept that information to themselves a little longer. I saved Anax. Mafia should know this already since their kill was unsuccessful but I was hoping that they wouldnt have known it was me. But since I was the only other one in the cell, Mafia knows that I saved Anax. Rockbert is mafia. Whoever can switch peoples place at night, please switch me so I can live another night.

07 Aug 2021, 19:33 I would like my night actions to be: 1. Place camera outside of Virt98's cell 2. Place camera in Janitor's closet (I am hoping for a daily rotation of chores) Madagascarter said: 08 Aug 2021, 16:06 Noted Quote from rheisel above. (I am on my phone so it's hard to work the cut and paste) I thought you said you put a camera outside Anax' cell? Also, I agree with Blue by and large, especially questioning Mdhag. So, with that, and in the spirit of reciprocity, #LYNCH MDHaglund

[quote=Mdhaglund]Sorry, I have been busy. I wish rhesiel kept that information to themselves a little longer. I saved Anax. Mafia should know this already since their kill was unsuccessful but I was hoping that they wouldnt have known it was me. But since I was the only other one in the cell, Mafia knows that I saved Anax. Rockbert is mafia. Whoever can switch peoples place at night, please switch me so I can live another night.[/quote] For some reason I did not see MD's post above til now. I am a Prisoner. I find it curious that you have been so shadowy and silent except when it comes to throw out a vote.

Hmm there may be a way mdhag can be saved. Why else would the sus want us to lynch him. Oh and I am trust worthy. Of course I am holding back some info. That does not make me untrustworthy nor mafia/neut I have been up front with being a prisoner 24601 from the start and outed good players just like I would bad players. If the the 3 of you were in an out of anax cell at night you were all up to no good. Nobody was out and I never said I went to V98 or Vicious cell. See my Role PM and other private and group PM I said how I[b] received [/b]my info. Rheisel could be the Neut. We just don't know. ;) For now friends and foes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T3mnDP_isM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZca1Q9IWA