Prisoners

[quote=Rockbert]07 Aug 2021, 19:33 I would like my night actions to be: 1. Place camera outside of Virt98's cell 2. Place camera in Janitor's closet (I am hoping for a daily rotation of chores) Madagascarter said: 08 Aug 2021, 16:06 Noted Quote from rheisel above. (I am on my phone so it's hard to work the cut and paste) I thought you said you put a camera outside Anax' cell? Also, I agree with Blue by and large, especially questioning Mdhag. So, with that, and in the spirit of reciprocity, #LYNCH MDHaglund[/quote] The message you just quoted is from August 7th. That’s like night one because v98 was still in the game. I’m pretty sure Rhiesel put a camera on Anax’s cell the most recent night.

Having that much power to derive info would be a scary ability for a neutral, Clubs. Not suggesting rheiselnis, but if he wis that's powerful.

[quote=LandoCalriskian][quote=Rockbert]07 Aug 2021, 19:33 I would like my night actions to be: 1. Place camera outside of Virt98's cell 2. Place camera in Janitor's closet (I am hoping for a daily rotation of chores) Madagascarter said: 08 Aug 2021, 16:06 Noted Quote from rheisel above. (I am on my phone so it's hard to work the cut and paste) I thought you said you put a camera outside Anax' cell? Also, I agree with Blue by and large, especially questioning Mdhag. So, with that, and in the spirit of reciprocity, #LYNCH MDHaglund[/quote] The message you just quoted is from August 7th. That’s like night one because v98 was still in the game. I’m pretty sure Rhiesel put a camera on Anax’s cell the most recent night. [/quote] Lando, I see what you're saying, I missed that initially. My bad.

[b]D3 Gardening Group Chat[/b] [spoiler][quote]Message: D3 Gardening From: Madagascarter To: Anaxagore, Bluegoetz, rheisel, Rockbert Madagascarter said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:14 No messages in forums please. Just here & PM thx Anaxagore said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:15 oh sorry i forgot we couldn't forum post this phase... Rockbert said: 11 Aug 2021, 19:53 Hey guys, looks like we are all together again, minus Lando. He must have moved or been moved. Bluegoetz said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:35 virt was not mafia. I really don't know who to trust, need to go back and look at how voting went down. I will say I didn't like how mdhag jumped on just in time to save himself and imo start a bandwagon on virt. I know what he said about him or me makes sense, but I'd like to know if he has been keeping up more than he let on. Rockbert said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:39 That's a good point. It did seem a little odd that he jumped on like that and I believe he's been quiet since? Still have questions about SHJENKE who has been totally absent this whole time from what I can tell. 2ofClubs seems adamant that SHJENKE is legit but I don't know. Bluegoetz said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:43 2oc posts seem to heavily imply (so I've got no problem saying it) that he's the detective? Bluegoetz said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:44 so I'm interested to see what he says in tomorrow forum Bluegoetz said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:44 so I'm interested to see what he says in tomorrow forum Bluegoetz said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:45 also alot of too quiet people. Bluegoetz said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:48 vicious and Rheisel didn't vote but I believe both got on and said something before Rockbert said: 11 Aug 2021, 21:49 yeah, vicious has been pretty quiet too though. rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 22:10 I didn't want to vote for Virt because I didn't understand the evidence against him. His role didn't imply anything bad, and he was right to flush out a neutral (abs). Did Anaxagore share his name with both of you Rockbert and Blue? Did you reciprocate as he suggested in the forum? (I didn't reciprocate due to time constraints.) Anaxagore said: 11 Aug 2021, 22:50 My name is Influencer You all know it now. Do you guys have any info? We may have different part of the puzzle Anaxagore said: 11 Aug 2021, 22:51 i'm starting to think 2ofclubs was shot and healed last night Anaxagore said: 11 Aug 2021, 23:04 my gut feeling right now is that none of you are mafia. Maybe one neutral. which would mean, if there is no mafia here, all mafia must be in the same group. Why would they do that? They are happy with the fact no one talks so they don't have to share info, or they are brainwashing the last person of the group. Anaxagore said: 11 Aug 2021, 23:08 TLM was in the first group with Elysium, 2oflclubs, Kyla and Mdhaglund. Does the killer needs to be in the same room? otherwise Lando is the only player who changed room. But somehow i doubt he would want to put hilself into the light this way as a mafia Anaxagore said: 11 Aug 2021, 23:08 i'll probably push Elysium, Kyla or Mdhaglund tomorrow rheisel said: 11 Aug 2021, 23:35 Anaxagore said: 11 Aug 2021, 22:51 i'm starting to think 2ofclubs was shot and healed last night What?!!? This is pretty interesting! How did you get to that? Rockbert said: 11 Aug 2021, 23:59 I do find that interesting too. Does anyone else think it's weird that Lando was the only one who changed work groups? Or did someone else change and I'm wrong? rheisel said: 12 Aug 2021, 00:01 I only noticed Lando changed. Personally, I feel I missed something when people keep mentioning that a player controls the groupings. I just thought that Mada controls the groupings. Where did people get the idea that it is a power that a player has? Rockbert said: 12 Aug 2021, 00:10 Personally, I feel I missed something when people keep mentioning that a player controls the groupings. I just thought that Mada controls the groupings. Where did people get the idea that it is a power that a player has? your quote Rheisel above, I have wondered that same thing actually. If it is a power for a player it would seem that it's maybe overpowered. There was some discussion about that yesterday I believe and there was the thought that it was curious the janitors were the smallest group and had the smallest amount of work to do, but then, I am not sure how we would know how much work the janitors do or don't do. Rockbert said: 12 Aug 2021, 00:31 Hey guys, I am logging out for a few hours. Will get caught up when I get back on. Bluegoetz said: 12 Aug 2021, 02:25 sorry been out tonight. I don't know or see anything about work assignments, but am intrested to see what other people say about it in the next phase. rheisel said: 12 Aug 2021, 02:33 IMO, Mada just rebalanced the teams. Never read anything about an assigner of work groups. Maybe we can ask in the forum tomorrow, Rockbert said: 12 Aug 2021, 17:21 Hey guys, just an FYI, we have 1 hour and 40 minutes to talk before the day voting forum begins.[/quote][/spoiler]

[b]Last two post from D3 Garden Group Chat[/b] [spoiler][quote]Bluegoetz said: 12 Aug 2021, 17:46 I don’t know exactly how to proceed next round. I am still suspicious of pretty much everyone at this point (some way more than others) but don’t know if it better to push my highly suspicious people or the way too quiet inactives. Don’t know that im looking for advice here just don’t want this group to think im flip flopping in what I say and do. hopefully that makes sense Madagascarter said: 12 Aug 2021, 20:50 Anaxagore Bluegoetz 1 Anaxagore Rheisel 0 Anaxagore Rockbert 2 Bluegoetz Rheisel. 23 Bluegoetz Rockbert 8 Rheisel Rockbert 16[/quote][/spoiler]

Why do 2 players visit Anax's cell? IMO, he's the ring leader. Mdhaglund at least tried to offer a reason for his visit. (Why would Anax need protection?) Rockbert keeps insisting he was not there. (How does a prisoner move in and out of a specific cell in the night without knowing?) I will check back in the morning.

[quote=rheisel]Why do 2 players visit Anax's cell? IMO, he's the ring leader. Mdhaglund at least tried to offer a reason for his visit. (Why would Anax need protection?) Rockbert keeps insisting he was not there. (How does a prisoner move in and out of a specific cell in the night without knowing?) I will check back in the morning. [/quote] I don't think two mafia would use their night action (or at least a part of it) to go visit the 'mob boss' so to speak. With what you posted, I honestly think that one of them was there to kill anax and one of them was there to protect anax. Here's this from the last voting phase: [b][quote]Anaxagore wrote: I have no idea when the day ends exactly, but if Virtuosity flips mafia or neutral, the doc (i hope there is one) should definitely heal me[/quote][/b] Anax specifically requested a doctor visit. You can see that post on page 17 at the very bottom, btw. I'm going to wait for Anaxagore to come on before I vote. I need to hear him explain his side of the story. This is a very interesting point in our discussions.

To further my point that it doesn't really make sense for mafia to visit each other- the very first post in this thread says that the mafia are given phones at night to communicate with each other. So it's not like they need to be in the same cell to talk. Someone please correct me if I'm interpreting it wrong though.

[quote=LandoCalriskian][quote=rheisel]Why do 2 players visit Anax's cell? IMO, he's the ring leader. Mdhaglund at least tried to offer a reason for his visit. (Why would Anax need protection?) Rockbert keeps insisting he was not there. (How does a prisoner move in and out of a specific cell in the night without knowing?) I will check back in the morning. [/quote] I don't think two mafia would use their night action (or at least a part of it) to go visit the 'mob boss' so to speak. With what you posted, I honestly think that one of them was there to kill anax and one of them was there to protect anax. Here's this from the last voting phase: [b][quote]Anaxagore wrote: I have no idea when the day ends exactly, but if Virtuosity flips mafia or neutral, the doc (i hope there is one) should definitely heal me[/quote][/b] Anax specifically requested a doctor visit. You can see that post on page 17 at the very bottom, btw. I'm going to wait for Anaxagore to come on before I vote. I need to hear him explain his side of the story. This is a very interesting point in our discussions.[/quote] Correct. I saved Anax. I was the last to leave his cell. If I left before Rock, Anax would be dead.

[quote=LandoCalriskian]To further my point that it doesn't really make sense for mafia to visit each other- the very first post in this thread says that the mafia are given phones at night to communicate with each other. So it's not like they need to be in the same cell to talk. Someone please correct me if I'm interpreting it wrong though.[/quote] was wondering about that visit vs phone thing too. Elaborate story maybe but that's a lot of forgery. Plus Rheisel [i]my love[/i] doesn't play like that. As far as Anax asking for a doctor is most likely a distraction/ misdirect. I've seen that tactic in past games. but it is plausible one was the healer and one the assassin. Whats up with Lando being knocked out and not killed???? Something is missing - as far fetch as it is watch Anax claim to save him or one of the silent players.

Just saw Mdhag 's post. Processing it .

It's all a bit confusing.. to me... to clear the air I do have a life an apologize for my lack ...so clearing the air I am 100% sure that I am a guard for the prisoners (isolater) on the side of the prisoners . The 1st night I isolated v98 I got knocked out as a result I couldn't use my role action the next night and last night I isolated 2of clubs. An Mada didn't message me so I'm guessing I wasn't knocked out this time I had several messages wit Lando an I'm about 90% sure he is wit the prisoners now SHJENKE appeared once all day said 4 words an that is all I have. Not sure where he/she stands possibly the other neutral or maybe he is just quiet but more then once he/she called ely a murder.. though that was suspicious but today my lunch vote goes to: [[size=16px#LYNCH MDHaglund[/size]

Haha it didn't post the name [size=16px]LynchRockbert[/size]

I did not leave my cell. I don't know if someone here has an ability to obscure what people see or something like that, but I never left.

[quote=rheisel]On a side note: it is really challenging to play with the different time zones. I wish there was something we could do to make this easier. I reiterate [b]#Lynch Anaxagore. [/b] I will check back in about an hour to see if anyone else has a question.[/quote] Don't sleep :P