Romeo & Juliet Mafia - Game Thread

[quote=2ofclubs]@ Hood+1 I follow you with that. What about the just transferring power part though?[/quote] im curious to know. never happened. not gonna have a chance to know if we don't take advantage of the votes. it's the old players vs new players on this vote.

Curiosity killed the cat. :P

shopkeeper killed us all :)

[b] #UN-lynch Mada[/b]

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=elysium5][quote=Mdhaglund][quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs]So to be clear? Hood+1, Ely, Mada and Anax want to lynch [s]hostile[/s] [s]neutral[/s] [s]Capulate[/s] [s]unafilliated[/s] shop-keep who has to much "power". That's lynching Plain Shop keep not caring on any alignment and give said power to the 3+ Richist Lord. [b]So Alex richness just transfers.[/b] Sorry I don't follow that logic. Excuse me Mada is voting on Alex to stay alive. I do agree somebody need to swing. Alex how many illegal votes were purchased today by color if possible.?[/quote] 2ofC, Alex is an admitted Neutral and [b]is not in our win clause[/b] and has had a chance to build his repository far too long. This should be more than enough reason. Then Mada is next as he is not of our House and in doing so, we will be able to determine whether or not we need to get rid of Md next.[/quote] I dont know what your win clause says, but mine says "all [b]hostile[/b] neutrals." Do we have proof that Alex is hostile? I do agree he has to go, but if you and I can trust each other, then we know for a fact Mada isn't part of either our win clauses while also not being town. Thats why its Mada for me.[/quote] Yup, [b]all hostile neutrals. And I agree[/b] that Mada needs to go before you but the shopkeeper should be first.[/quote] What are you in a private chat with them? Like the mafia has theirs. So its 1) Alex 2) Mada 3) MDH " the flaw is all hostile neutrals. And I agree" Alex agrees Alex needs go 1st. REALLY! [/quote] Not in a private chat with anyone, except Virt. I don't know what you mean by this: [quote] " the flaw is all hostile neutrals. And I agree" Alex agrees Alex needs go 1st. REALLY! [/quote]

I mis read: Yup, all hostile neutr[u]als. An[/u]d I agree that Mada needs to go before you but the shopkeeper should be first. As: you and all the hostile neutrals agree that :P I dont know what your win clause says, but mine says "all hostile neutrals." Do we have proof that Alex is hostile? I do agree he has to go, but if you and I can trust each other, then we know for a fact Mada isn't part of either our win clauses while also not being town. Thats why its Mada for me. Yup, all hostile neutrals. And I agree that Mada needs to go before you but the shopkeeper should be first. What are you in a private chat with them? Like the mafia has theirs. So its 1) Alex 2) Mada 3) MDH " the flaw is all hostile neutrals. And I agree" Alex agrees Alex needs go 1st. REALLY! Not in a private chat with anyone, except Virt.

[quote=Anaxagore][quote=Virtuosity98][b]Note that Disguises have now sold out.[/b][/quote] Does this means everyone has one? [/quote] Yes; I bought all of the last disguises in the last phase. I did come across 1 role which is immune to poison.

[quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs]So to be clear? Hood+1, Ely, Mada and Anax want to lynch [s]hostile[/s] [s]neutral[/s] [s]Capulate[/s] [s]unafilliated[/s] shop-keep who has to much "power". That's lynching Plain Shop keep not caring on any alignment and give said power to the 3+ Richist Lord. [b]So Alex richness just transfers.[/b] Sorry I don't follow that logic. Excuse me Mada is voting on Alex to stay alive. I do agree somebody need to swing. Alex how many illegal votes were purchased today by color if possible.?[/quote] 2ofC, Alex is an admitted Neutral and is not in our win clause and has had a chance to build his repository far too long. This should be more than enough reason. Then Mada is next as he is not of our House and in doing so, we will be able to determine whether or not we need to get rid of Md next.[/quote] [b]#Lynch Madagascarter[/b] What can one "usefully" stock up on? I've bought several masks and all disguises except for those which others bought. Obviously also a sword (but not several); so what else could I want to get? I am not 'in' your win clause - sure I am however also not a 'problem' for your win clause; we can win together. There's no risk involved there. There will be with facing of against mafia and hostile neutral (while going into your feud). Even when thinking from mon/cap perspective... I see more sense in going after the mafia You do not know how many more mistakes can be allowed? And what if a hostile role gets shop and starts dousing houses at large? Time will go much quicker

[quote=Hoodlum]anax knows all about the shopkeeper role. we, hood, anax, ely, madagascarter know how it went down. 1 player vs everyone. 1 winner. alex is siding with whoever? nah bro nah. :) [/quote] Anax knows zilch more about the shopkeeper than anyone else. You can all go back to the other game and read the mechanics/role there. It's not the same role. It's not 1vs everyone. I am siding with whoever.

[quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs][quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs]So to be clear? Hood+1, Ely, Mada and Anax want to lynch[b] [s]hostile[/s] [s]neutral[/s] [s]Capulate[/s] [s]unafilliated[/s] shop-keep[/b] who has to much "power". That's lynching Plain Shop keep not caring on any alignment and give said power to the 3+ Richist Lord. [b]So Alex richness just transfers.[/b] Sorry I don't follow that logic. Excuse me Mada is voting on Alex to stay alive. I do agree somebody need to swing. Alex how many illegal votes were purchased today by color if possible.?[/quote] 2ofC, Alex[b] is an admitted Neutral [/b]and is not in our win clause and has had a chance to build his repository far too long. This should be more than enough reason. Then Mada is next as he is not of our House and in doing so, we will be able to determine whether or not we need to get rid of Md next.[/quote] He hasn't admitted it. He was labeled. He has played with it and or the like i.e "well since I am neutral." Like I said their are 3 neutrals. One is dead. [b]Who would be the others?[/b] Shop keep + accountant, Shop keep + Romeo, Shop keep +Juliet, Shop keep + Nurse, Romeo+Juliet, Romeo and mistress nurse, Juliet + accountant, etc Hell, Rock has a fancy for Juliet in that case. Maybe its the 2 red avatars Ely and Hood [/quote] Yes, he has admitted it. He was labelled and then caved to the pressure and admitted it but claims to not be a threat to anyone. He says he can win with anyone and admittedly he hasn't done anything that we know of to hurt town but he really hasn't helped much either. That in itself says he has his own interests at heart and not anyone else's really. If he really wants to align himself with Town, he could have offered up some info that he must know would out potential Mafia targets so I don't trust him at all. I don't know if he is Hostile or not but a neutral is a neutral and getting rid of them means we don't have to worry any more about hiding hostiles, plus he is neutral and has had the shop WAY too long as such.[/quote] I wouldn't want to say I've caved to the pressure. Lol. I am constantly helping; however not too much, to not lose all possible value I might have to you. If I spill all my beans now, none will care to see me live - you'll have what you came for. Surely some people have put 1+1 together and distilled the purple poison buying mask

[quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs][quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs]So to be clear? Hood+1, Ely, Mada and Anax want to lynch[b] [s]hostile[/s] [s]neutral[/s] [s]Capulate[/s] [s]unafilliated[/s] shop-keep[/b] who has to much "power". That's lynching Plain Shop keep not caring on any alignment and give said power to the 3+ Richist Lord. [b]So Alex richness just transfers.[/b] Sorry I don't follow that logic. Excuse me Mada is voting on Alex to stay alive. I do agree somebody need to swing. Alex how many illegal votes were purchased today by color if possible.?[/quote] 2ofC, Alex[b] is an admitted Neutral [/b]and is not in our win clause and has had a chance to build his repository far too long. This should be more than enough reason. Then Mada is next as he is not of our House and in doing so, we will be able to determine whether or not we need to get rid of Md next.[/quote] He hasn't admitted it. He was labeled. He has played with it and or the like i.e "well since I am neutral." Like I said their are 3 neutrals. One is dead. [b]Who would be the others?[/b] Shop keep + accountant, Shop keep + Romeo, Shop keep +Juliet, Shop keep + Nurse, Romeo+Juliet, Romeo and mistress nurse, Juliet + accountant, etc Hell, Rock has a fancy for Juliet in that case. Maybe its the 2 red avatars Ely and Hood [/quote] Yes, he has admitted it. He was labelled and then caved to the pressure and admitted it but claims to not be a threat to anyone. He says he can win with anyone and admittedly he hasn't done anything that we know of to hurt town but he really hasn't helped much either. That in itself says he has his own interests at heart and not anyone else's really. If he really wants to align himself with Town, he could have offered up some info that he must know would out potential Mafia targets so I don't trust him at all. I don't know if he is Hostile or not but a neutral is a neutral and getting rid of them means we don't have to worry any more about hiding hostiles, plus he is neutral and has had the shop WAY too long as such.[/quote] I wouldn't want to say I've caved to the pressure. Lol. I am constantly helping; however not too much, to not lose all possible value I might have to you. If I spill all my beans now, none will care to see me live - you'll have what you came for. Surely some people have put 1+1 together and distilled the purple poison buying mask[/quote] Then help town. The only 2 players who could be purple are Hood and milnejw24. While I don't want to do the Mafia's work for them, how can you be sure who is which? Who are the likely Mafia? You should know. You have collected a lot of info.

I was going to wait but I want some info. [b]#Lynch AlexCheckMate[/b] This will be my vote, Alex, unless you can tell me who I should be choosing to lynch instead and why. Don't give me any wishy washy blahbideeblahblahblah either. Be clear and specific or die. I do not have a win clause that includes winning with Neutrals and I have not seen anything in what Virt has said that indicates there are any non-hostile Neutrals. Are there really any non-hostile Neutrals? I am not sure there are in this game. Virt has made this one different, that's for sure.

[quote=elysium5][quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs][quote=elysium5][quote=2ofclubs]So to be clear? Hood+1, Ely, Mada and Anax want to lynch[b] [s]hostile[/s] [s]neutral[/s] [s]Capulate[/s] [s]unafilliated[/s] shop-keep[/b] who has to much "power". That's lynching Plain Shop keep not caring on any alignment and give said power to the 3+ Richist Lord. [b]So Alex richness just transfers.[/b] Sorry I don't follow that logic. Excuse me Mada is voting on Alex to stay alive. I do agree somebody need to swing. Alex how many illegal votes were purchased today by color if possible.?[/quote] 2ofC, Alex[b] is an admitted Neutral [/b]and is not in our win clause and has had a chance to build his repository far too long. This should be more than enough reason. Then Mada is next as he is not of our House and in doing so, we will be able to determine whether or not we need to get rid of Md next.[/quote] He hasn't admitted it. He was labeled. He has played with it and or the like i.e "well since I am neutral." Like I said their are 3 neutrals. One is dead. [b]Who would be the others?[/b] Shop keep + accountant, Shop keep + Romeo, Shop keep +Juliet, Shop keep + Nurse, Romeo+Juliet, Romeo and mistress nurse, Juliet + accountant, etc Hell, Rock has a fancy for Juliet in that case. Maybe its the 2 red avatars Ely and Hood [/quote] Yes, he has admitted it. He was labelled and then caved to the pressure and admitted it but claims to not be a threat to anyone. He says he can win with anyone and admittedly he hasn't done anything that we know of to hurt town but he really hasn't helped much either. That in itself says he has his own interests at heart and not anyone else's really. If he really wants to align himself with Town, he could have offered up some info that he must know would out potential Mafia targets so I don't trust him at all. I don't know if he is Hostile or not but a neutral is a neutral and getting rid of them means we don't have to worry any more about hiding hostiles, plus he is neutral and has had the shop WAY too long as such.[/quote] I wouldn't want to say I've caved to the pressure. Lol. I am constantly helping; however not too much, to not lose all possible value I might have to you. If I spill all my beans now, none will care to see me live - you'll have what you came for. Surely some people have put 1+1 together and distilled the purple poison buying mask[/quote] Then help town. The only 2 players who could be purple are Hood and milnejw24. While I don't want to do the Mafia's work for them, how can you be sure who is which? Who are the likely Mafia? You should know. You have collected a lot of info.[/quote] Purple bought poison This was done while minj was already inactive I guess you've now solved your puzzle Is there any added value for dishing out all information now? We can only lynch one person at a time. I believe there's at least 1 person outed right now, and we'll likely be able to cascade on the second from that lynch. So let's start there

[quote=elysium5]I was going to wait but I want some info. This will be my vote, Alex, unless you can tell me who I should be choosing to lynch instead and why. Don't give me any wishy washy blahbideeblahblahblah either. Be clear and specific or die. I do not have a win clause that includes winning with Neutrals and I have not seen anything in what Virt has said that indicates there are any non-hostile Neutrals. Are there really any non-hostile Neutrals? I am not sure there are in this game. Virt has made this one different, that's for sure.[/quote] V98 gives town:mafia:neutral ratio He specifically mentions hostile neutrals in some things That alone should indicate for you there are neutral(s) and hostile neutral(s). V98 doesn't give redundant information like that. There's a reason for him specifying the way he does. Starting with 3 total, it makes sense that there would be 2 hostile neutrals as a team and 1 neutral neutral (who wins with whoever). As said in my post above this one; we currently have enough information to move forward. Also, now that I've purchased all the disguises that were still out there, I've disabled people from getting more outs (can't know whether they still would need one...) and I've now got no more use of the money... so I was thinking of purchasing 1 poison myself and then putting it up for sale directly. That way it can't be bought anonymously either :)

#un-lynch Madagascarter [b]#Lynch AlexCheckMate[/b] I can live with Rockbert owning the shop. If that makes enough townies happy, great. We can go after Mada tomorrow.