Romeo & Juliet Mafia - Game Thread

[quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Hoodlum]i re-read what i wrote and it didn't make much sense lol. basically, your desperate to stay alive like TLM, and will say whatever you have to, to stay alive, except you'll do it with class. logic is simple for my win clause. i don't win with a hostile neutral, and i can win without a non hostile neutral if that even exist. there is no non hostile neutral in the written ratio. [/quote] Haha, good :p was a little flustered. No, I'm not desperate. I feel I owe it to the host and all participants to not simply roll over and accept such a faith. The role I have deserves some effort to try and avoid getting eliminated. For everyone to be able to enjoy/experience the game to the fullest. I won't say whatever; I never do. I stick to my morals and do not sell out. I value someone's word, as I do my own. The shopkeeper isn't a hostile neutral. In the ratio neutrals are called just that; neutral. It doesn't specify they're (all) hostile. Seeing you mention you can win with a non hostile neutral; you (banking on the assumption of town) have got nothing to fear from the current shopkeeper. As a side note; I've purchased about 10 disguises; if I had deemed it smarter, I would've concocted some kind of alternative role to hide behind. @Bluegoetz I had thus far refrained from lynching you; I suppose I should follow your lead and lynch the other lynch candidate, for the time being. [b]#Lynch Bluegoetz [/b][/quote] Page 90. Disguises.

Of course I may have been out if it was N0 or N1 and didn't break camera. I wouldn't tell on myself.

hmm ok alex. i was on phone and just flicking thru at the time. i may have misread that, darn, i thought i stumbled across a mistake. but, still..what a coincidence that there are 10 new masks bought from the last time i looked.

alex, you would know which colours bought which masks? surely people didn't purchase masks at an anonymous price of 6? i hope you are going to use that info toward town ;)

Alex if you tell the mask colors they will be useless to the buyers and mafia can say i.e. kill original red and fake gold and insure the kill. Don't tell IMO

[quote=Hoodlum]hmm ok alex. i was on phone and just flicking thru at the time. i may have misread that, darn, i thought i stumbled across a mistake. but, still..what a coincidence that there are 10 new masks bought from the last time i looked.[/quote] No offense... and please take it as such... you probably didn't check every day... (or V98 updated lazily)

[quote=Hoodlum]alex, you would know which colours bought which masks? surely people didn't purchase masks at an anonymous price of 6? i hope you are going to use that info toward town ;)[/quote] I mentioned 4 bought at a price of 6

[b][size=28px]Important:[/size][/b] Hi everyone, I just woke up. Was reading back through the forums and reading [url=https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3558/romeo-juliet-mafia-game-thread/post/65309#post-65309]Post#1339[/url]...[quote]And milnejw is inactive now, but looked really towny before (but i could be wrong here).[/quote]... made me think about how best to address milnejw's inactivity (I just checked and it's nearly 5 days now!). I believe someone else mentioned his inactivity a day back or so, can't remember who. So it's been at the back of my mind. Since he could be any Role, and I don't want any faction to get a free ride (Montague/Capulet) or a disadvantage (neutral/Mafia) due to his inactivity, I have the following announcement to make: I have decided that for the proper functioning of the game, that @@milnejw24's Night and Day actions will be programmed as follows: If he is Town, he will default to leaving his house at night, but will not carry out any night actions. He will bring half of his coins and a randomised selection of items from his inventory. During the day phases, he will not buy any items. This will also be the case if he is a solo neutral. If he is part of a neutral or a mafia team, then his teammate(s) will be given full power to puppet his Role and control his activities at night, as well as to make purchases during the day phases. My reasoning for this decision: - Town will no longer be able to ignore him, regardless of his Role. - If he is Montague/Capulet, the opposite House may wish to steal from him or kill him in order to outnumber their rival House. - If he is Town or neutral, it allows mafia to kill him without needing to purchase Oil or Poison. - If he is neutral, solo, his win clause would still have to be considered if it plays a vital role in the structure of the game. - If he is neutral, team, then it is not fair on his teammate(s) that he suddenly went inactive. - If he is mafia, then it is not fair on his teammate(s) that he suddenly went inactive. - It provides strategic opportunities/problems for enterprising players of all factions who want to maximise their possibilities in this game.

[quote=Virtuosity98][b][size=28px]Important:[/size][/b] Hi everyone, I just woke up. Was reading back through the forums and reading [url=https://dominating12.com/forums/5/off-topic/3558/romeo-juliet-mafia-game-thread/post/65309#post-65309]Post#1339[/url]...[quote]And milnejw is inactive now, but looked really towny before (but i could be wrong here).[/quote]... made me think about how best to address milnejw's inactivity (I just checked and it's nearly 5 days now!). I believe someone else mentioned his inactivity a day back or so, can't remember who. So it's been at the back of my mind. Since he could be any Role, and I don't want any faction to get a free ride (Montague/Capulet) or a disadvantage (neutral/Mafia) due to his inactivity, I have the following announcement to make: I have decided that for the proper functioning of the game, that @@milnejw24's Night and Day actions will be programmed as follows: If he is Town, he will default to leaving his house at night, but will not carry out any night actions. He will bring half of his coins and a randomised selection of items from his inventory. During the day phases, he will not buy any items. This will also be the case if he is a solo neutral. If he is part of a neutral or a mafia team, then his teammate(s) will be given full power to puppet his Role and control his activities at night, as well as to make purchases during the day phases. My reasoning for this decision: - Town will no longer be able to ignore him, regardless of his Role. - If he is Montague/Capulet, the opposite House may wish to steal from him or kill him in order to outnumber their rival House. - If he is Town or neutral, it allows mafia to kill him without needing to purchase Oil or Poison. - If he is neutral, solo, his win clause would still have to be considered if it plays a vital role in the structure of the game. - If he is neutral, team, then it is not fair on his teammate(s) that he suddenly went inactive. - If he is mafia, then it is not fair on his teammate(s) that he suddenly went inactive. - It provides strategic opportunities/problems for enterprising players of all factions who want to maximise their possibilities in this game.[/quote] I'm pretty sure that if he belonged to a team; they would've "made you" take action sooner. Apart from that, sounds like you covered most angles :) With you mentioning there (could) be a neutral team... I guess this would have to be a hostile team and it would likely be Romeo/Juliette - as has been mentioned before.

Hmm I can see Romeo and Juliette as a team. 1) Virt said solo 2) Rem is dead so he would have been the solo neutral. If there was/is a solo 3) Hostile may fit if R&J were mad the families. That may make the neutral win clause:; a) Together as a team eliminate Cap and Mon houses b) Solo Juliette .eliminate Montague house c) Solo Romeo eliminate Cap house 4) Rem Neutral: Win clause: Survive [u]with Romeo and Juliet [/u]until the House of [b]Escalus (mafia)[/b] is eliminated, or survive until the House of Escalus and [u][i][b]hostile [/b][/i][/u]neutral[u]s[/u] [u]are[/u] eliminated. Well there is a team of 3 but that would make Romeo and Juliette not hostile neutrals. if they are neutral at all. 5) Tennessee / Esculas (note not mafia according to cryer): Win clause: Ensure that Romeo and Valentine survive until endgame. As a team making Romeo and Valentine neutrals or town . But then the theme that Juliette is neutral doesn't fit. Maybe Romeo is not neutral, Could a win include T. N and mafia. LOL So Tennnesse is of the House [b]Escalus (mafia)[/b] but is really town, we have solo or team, hostile vs what civil? WTF [b]#Lynch Virtuosity98 [/b] LOL

[quote=Madagascarter]I would encourage people to stop claiming neutral. You might notice that that is exactly how TLM and Remlburc died. Let’s not have anymore neutral claims please.[/quote] Does that include hostile neutral[b][i][u]s[/u][/i][/b]? LOL

[quote=2ofclubs]Hmm I can see Romeo and Juliette as a team. 1) Virt said solo 2) Rem is dead so he would have been the solo neutral. If there was/is a solo 3) Hostile may fit if R&J were mad the families. That may make the neutral win clause:; a) Together as a team eliminate Cap and Mon houses b) Solo Juliette .eliminate Montague house c) Solo Romeo eliminate Cap house 4) Rem Neutral: Win clause: Survive [u]with Romeo and Juliet [/u]until the House of [b]Escalus (mafia)[/b] is eliminated, or survive until the House of Escalus and [u][i][b]hostile [/b][/i][/u]neutral[u]s[/u] [u]are[/u] eliminated. Well there is a team of 3 but that would make Romeo and Juliette not hostile neutrals. if they are neutral at all. 5) Tennessee / Esculas (note not mafia according to cryer): Win clause: Ensure that Romeo and Valentine survive until endgame. As a team making Romeo and Valentine neutrals or town . But then the theme that Juliette is neutral doesn't fit. Maybe Romeo is not neutral, Could a win include T. N and mafia. LOL So Tennnesse is of the House [b]Escalus (mafia)[/b] but is really town, we have solo or team, hostile vs what civil? WTF [b]#Lynch Virtuosity98 [/b] LOL [/quote] REM wasn’t neutral. TLM was

So I have a plan to be discussed. From now on we go socialist candidate always. If you still haven’t got a sword claim so that maybe we could get everyone a sword. But Alex said that oil and poison have not been bought yet. Both expensive items. And I intend to keep it that way. That is why we should go socialist every day. And to hold the peace between the two house’s we should alternate between the Montague / Capulet house’s who should be leader. I think the easiest answer is if we switch between me and Elysium5 as the Lord of Verona as we have given facts about our roles and proof therefore giving people more reasons to trust us. If we stop the flow of money to the mafia they’ll remain useless. We’ll just slowly gain more and more information till we find them out

did ely's role give us proof?

are you saying that you and ely are opposite faction?