Romeo & Juliet Mafia - Game Thread

You're getting awful testy when I suggest to lynch your mafia friend there rheisel. Also, I never claimed to be new. I have been completely forthcoming in what I was doing.

[quote=rheisel]On the topic of Rockbert: the very straightforward play of setting watchmen/cameras around town. I see that Anax wants to pass this off as "trying to solve things." I don't know. This is Rockbert's third mafia game, and this is an easy excuse for a mafia to employ. (i.e., "I am new and just trying to solve things.") Who has placing watchmen all around town really benefitted? With regard to Anax: does this "I am trying to solve things and therefore I am town" really workout often as a town strategy? We don't really have any hard evidence that Anax is town, just well-constructed arguments. Ely, on the other had, has provided hard evidence. Mada, hard evidence. 2ofClubs, soft evidence Finally, Alex. ... Why assume the shopkeeper is neutral? I think the pressure campaign needs to yield some additional detailed information. Crowbars, anonymous mask purchases... come on ... we are more serious than those two nuggets![/quote] Let's assume that I've read the role description of the shopkeeper and have seen it's a neutral role. I'm not the kind of guy to just crack under pressure. I do not think that any further disclosure of certain data is in the interest of town. Don't forget the mention of fake votes (today!) and no poison/oil. So if we are to safe me, we need to convince a lot of people to change their vote away from me (and it also proves that a certain group of people is rather set on getting rid of me; they might have created a strategy already on how to reach a victorious endgame after my plausible demise).

[quote][b]AlexCheckMate wrote: [i]Let's assume that I've read the role description of the shopkeeper and have seen it's a neutral role.[/i][/b][/quote] That's one way to look at it. You could easily be lying. You could very well be a mafia shopkeeper. I am not going to assume you are neutral. No one should make that assumption.

Sounds like Alex is going out today with his chin held high. Commendable.

[quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Hoodlum]i re-read what i wrote and it didn't make much sense lol. basically, your desperate to stay alive like TLM, and will say whatever you have to, to stay alive, except you'll do it with class. logic is simple for my win clause. i don't win with a hostile neutral, and i can win without a non hostile neutral if that even exist. there is no non hostile neutral in the written ratio. [/quote] Haha, good :p was a little flustered. No, I'm not desperate. I feel I owe it to the host and all participants to not simply roll over and accept such a faith. The role I have deserves some effort to try and avoid getting eliminated. For everyone to be able to enjoy/experience the game to the fullest. I won't say whatever; I never do. I stick to my morals and do not sell out. I value someone's word, as I do my own. The shopkeeper isn't a hostile neutral. In the ratio neutrals are called just that; neutral. It doesn't specify they're (all) hostile. Seeing you mention you can win with a non hostile neutral; you (banking on the assumption of town) have got nothing to fear from the current shopkeeper. [b]As a side note; I've purchased about 10 disguises; if I had deemed it smarter, I would've concocted some kind of alternative role to hide behind. [/b] @Bluegoetz I had thus far refrained from lynching you; I suppose I should follow your lead and lynch the other lynch candidate, for the time being. [b]#Lynch Bluegoetz [/b][/quote] Question about the bolded section. How many others have bought Disguises?

Alex, you went offline immediately after I posted this. I hope it is just coincidence but I have a feeling you might know where I am going with my question...hmmm.

I have not.

I have less than 2 hours before I have to go so I won't be able to change my lynch choice after that (I haven't cast my vote yet).

I would like to #[b]lynch bluegoetz[/b] Change my mind lol

[quote=elysium5][quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Hoodlum]i re-read what i wrote and it didn't make much sense lol. basically, your desperate to stay alive like TLM, and will say whatever you have to, to stay alive, except you'll do it with class. logic is simple for my win clause. i don't win with a hostile neutral, and i can win without a non hostile neutral if that even exist. there is no non hostile neutral in the written ratio. [/quote] Haha, good :p was a little flustered. No, I'm not desperate. I feel I owe it to the host and all participants to not simply roll over and accept such a faith. The role I have deserves some effort to try and avoid getting eliminated. For everyone to be able to enjoy/experience the game to the fullest. I won't say whatever; I never do. I stick to my morals and do not sell out. I value someone's word, as I do my own. The shopkeeper isn't a hostile neutral. In the ratio neutrals are called just that; neutral. It doesn't specify they're (all) hostile. Seeing you mention you can win with a non hostile neutral; you (banking on the assumption of town) have got nothing to fear from the current shopkeeper. [b]As a side note; I've purchased about 10 disguises; if I had deemed it smarter, I would've concocted some kind of alternative role to hide behind. [/b] @Bluegoetz I had thus far refrained from lynching you; I suppose I should follow your lead and lynch the other lynch candidate, for the time being. [b]#Lynch Bluegoetz [/b][/quote] Question about the bolded section. How many others have bought Disguises?[/quote] That is my question as well. Disguise’s are the most valuable evidence we’ve got and the only thing that is going to save you. It’s if you reveal which masks bought disguises. Especially if there is a correlation that the same masks bought fancy Italian masks

I think if someone is pressured, he should first only post his role before posting his mask colour and house

Agreed, role only. Masks a bit but definitely House disclosures will start town warring.

[quote=Madagascarter][quote=elysium5][quote=AlexCheckMate][quote=Hoodlum]i re-read what i wrote and it didn't make much sense lol. basically, your desperate to stay alive like TLM, and will say whatever you have to, to stay alive, except you'll do it with class. logic is simple for my win clause. i don't win with a hostile neutral, and i can win without a non hostile neutral if that even exist. there is no non hostile neutral in the written ratio. [/quote] Haha, good :p was a little flustered. No, I'm not desperate. I feel I owe it to the host and all participants to not simply roll over and accept such a faith. The role I have deserves some effort to try and avoid getting eliminated. For everyone to be able to enjoy/experience the game to the fullest. I won't say whatever; I never do. I stick to my morals and do not sell out. I value someone's word, as I do my own. The shopkeeper isn't a hostile neutral. In the ratio neutrals are called just that; neutral. It doesn't specify they're (all) hostile. Seeing you mention you can win with a non hostile neutral; you (banking on the assumption of town) have got nothing to fear from the current shopkeeper. [b]As a side note; I've purchased about 10 disguises; if I had deemed it smarter, I would've concocted some kind of alternative role to hide behind. [/b] @Bluegoetz I had thus far refrained from lynching you; I suppose I should follow your lead and lynch the other lynch candidate, for the time being. [b]#Lynch Bluegoetz [/b][/quote] Question about the bolded section. How many others have bought Disguises?[/quote] That is my question as well. Disguise’s are the most valuable evidence we’ve got and the only thing that is going to save you. It’s if you reveal which masks bought disguises. Especially if there is a correlation that the same masks bought fancy Italian masks [/quote] I want to know how many, if any, were purchased.

In fact, how about knowing everything purchased so far and in which phase? You could start with that if no one sees any flaws with revealing it. You don't have to divulge Mask colors (yet ;) ).

[quote=rheisel][quote][b]AlexCheckMate wrote: [i]Let's assume that I've read the role description of the shopkeeper and have seen it's a neutral role.[/i][/b][/quote] That's one way to look at it. You could easily be lying. You could very well be a mafia shopkeeper. I am not going to assume you are neutral. No one should make that assumption. [/quote] No offense... but the first comment is just fluff. Of course I could be lying. I'm just saying I'm not and you should feel free to check other games: I do not lie in these. To expect a mafia shopkeeper, from the start. No. Just no. I don't think I need to address this further. Please do assume neutral. Second post of yours - feels like "a hidden campaign" - to persuade people to have your vision that I'm going out and to make it less "hurting" for everyone, by saying I did it with grace... See not much use in that either :(