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PsymonStark wrote:
Ok, done everything except changing the water (the only thing I got well on this map, I'm not gonna change it so easily, probably I'll change the rest of the map instead), and adding that southern part of Greece (remaking the whole map is not something I want to do).

I think I might have found a good font for this.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3163/balkan4.jpg
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Cireon wrote:
I don't really have problems with cutting of Greece. I also like the colours, except for them being a bit too bright. The colours are a bit "neon" to me right now, so I would turn that down a bit.

I won't comment on the gameplay, I don't think I am experienced enough to do so and I don't see a problem right.
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Pntbttr wrote:
the font and size is good but it is still a little hard to read try making it bold...

Cireon is right it is too neon...try adjusting the hue and saturation...I also think the map is too blue, try making the dead zone more grey by lowering the saturation...

I think you need to add to your texture...try adding a jittered cloud layer...but I think once you change the colors a bit it will change how you see the texture

the sea on the left is brighter than the sea on the right...not sure if that's a problem though...I think you should add a little texture to the oceans, it look incomplete without it...

Vexer wrote:
The font is better but I don't like the style. I always prefer white text with black outline instead of black text with a white outline.

The land is better with the texture you added. the dead zone looks better.

Are you still planning on improving the title? I'm ok with the font but i really don't like the color or style.

What do people think about the border on the mini map?
Thorpe wrote:
I did not say anything about the mini border cause there is bigger problems ...but since you said something...

The mini border looks like it needs to be in Vegas or Reno...too flashy.

Just change the color of the title and see if that will work and tone it down.
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PsymonStark wrote:
Vexer - Jul 4, 12:36 AM
I always prefer white text with black outline instead of black text with a white outline.
May I ask why? Remember this is my second map, so I don't know all of your likes and dislikes, guys.

And with the title... any suggestion? I'm going to change it, but I'm not gonna do it randomly until most of you tell me it's ok. Same applies to minimap borders. Remember I've done none, so I don't even have a map style.
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Thorpe wrote:
Easy for likes...just look at the other maps.

And we know this is your second map and you may feel the comments are harsh...I know I did and almost quit making maps! But then thought That was what Vexer wanted so I said No...just to bug him! Not really...LOL

Plus you need not to do everything that people comment on. This is your map! Make sure if you don't like to change something then you had better back it up ...why.

It is the over-all look that is the problem with the map...each map needs to flow with a style of that era or its genera. Can not have neon and dark mixed...plus neon does not work on this site well...other sites use it though...but I do not like them...I like map with more real looks and feel to them.

Here is a site you may want to look at for styles and looks:

http://www.cartographersguild.com/

They make maps and stuff for the movies.

When you get what Vexer likes...most of the time he is right...it will be easier for you not to make mistakes...at least those ones...lol...you will do a lot of other ones though...try bridges!

Hang in there...
Trust me it will get worst! lol

Welcome to the hair-pulling!

For the title ask NoXon he is great at them! But I like the style of it not the color.
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-NoXoN- wrote:
i just wish you to write all names on english.

 Skopje is in west part of FYROM.

 Well done with regions.
PsymonStark wrote:
@Noxon I chose to write the names in each country language by the same reason that I try to make the borders as realist as I can. You can't imagine my face when I saw the division of Spain in both Mediterranean and Europe 1814 maps. So I searched how to write everything in the native language. Nonetheless, I had planned to put the translations of some regions (specially Northern or Southern ones) in the input phase.

And about Skopje, the region is the city is near the western side of the region. I found a 4 corner problem there, so I corrected it but with that correction, I put Skopje out of his region. Also, Vardar had to be inside the pink region, not a frontier, so I made Pelagonia bigger, and that also made Skopje to be moved to the east.

I'll make a change in the next update related to this.
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-NoXoN- wrote:
one of us have to be wrong, maybe me =)

 Monetenegro = Crna gora
 Kosovo   = Kosova
 Macedonia  = Makedonija
 
 Beograd   = Belgrade

 Dalmacia is an old illyrian tribe, maybe you can rename that region with any citys name like u did for another regions.
PsymonStark wrote:
Ok, you got me there with Montenegro and Macedonia. More changes to do!

With Kosovo, I don't really know what to do. Kosovo is Serbian, and Kosova, Kosovë is Albanian. Probably with this partition for regions, I shall take the Albanian form.

Still, Beograd is Serbian for Belgrade. And Dalmatia is being fully used now, mainly for tourism purposes, so it's understandable. Also some people divides Croatia in Slavonia, Istria, Kvarner, Central Croatia and Dalmatia.

Many thanks Nox! By the way, the dot on the i in Kirklareli has to dissappear. Remember me so I can do it when we're done with the text.
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Matty wrote:
Thorpe is right.
The only reason why I react is because im suggesting some things that I think might be better.

I'll say to you what I say to Thorpe as well: Your map is really good, but by suggesting things I think it can be even better :)

Keep up the good work, and dont just please Vexer, Thorpe or me, please yourself the most!
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Thorpe wrote:
No Please us all!...LOL

Matty is right but you still have to get map posted,
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-NoXoN- wrote:
Kosovo is Serbian? NO is not and never have been.
 96% are abanians and only 1.5% are serbs.
 Republic of Kosova declares independence February 17th 2008
 Recognized by 91 UN countries, mostly of them democratic countries.

 You cant write Kosovë on map cause of grammar, you have to write Kosova.

 I say again i preffer regions name on english but you must do as you like.

 Yugoslavia = hated since created
Vexer wrote:
I think white text with a black outline because it is easier to read on most maps. It stands out better and I think it looks better.