The Dark (Mafia) - Game Thread

[quote=Bluegoetz]Abs if you would have talked plainly like this I might have believed you. But you fluffed it up too much. You never answered why you shot clubs last night? You keep saying he had no suspicions on him and you are so afraid of the last researcher getting killed that was a risky move don’t you think? You told us yesterday to focus on jkl, ely and hood. Then you shoot clubs. I don’t get it and I don’t trust it. Clubs could be CIA, so don’t anyone read this and think I know otherwise. I don’t honestly trust a single person in this game right now. (Maybe Anax, but he could also be being sneaky again) My fear of you abs is I stated before the cia and research win clause is not just kill the other or there could be no way for town to win. So you know more than you are telling. You have been helpful letting us know about the dark, but leaving you alive allows the labs research to be completed [/quote] All fair points and I can see why you may land on this way of thinking… It’s a fact, I was a researcher (I may still be!? BUT v98 message alluded to me that this is not the case). I was given a night kill on night 4 only which when I came back I did retain so naturally although I didn’t have any info at the time, I used it on clubs as the info I did get from my time in The Dark was that we need balance and not to allow Fire to get a majority and only Earth could seal the portal. So when Clubs openly admitted he was Earth, at that time it made sense to use it on him as I had no better option or idea and didnt Want to waste my only shot on night 4 as it would be gone forever. Regarding the previous phase, I had a coded whisper (not knowing who from) saying that Hood, JKL and Ely were Fire which made me think they were CIA. Since we lynched Hood abd turned out to be CIA, I thought this must make sense Whilst I agree with you that Research being alive is not in the end good for Town, it is just as bad having CIA alive and at The moment the scales are well and truly tipped in CIA favour. Because my night shot oh clubs failed due to a surprise protection he had, this further made me think he could be CIA hence the Lynch Hope this is helpful

[quote=ThickTalon]And how many more kills does he have? Loose Canon gunning down Townies[/quote] I only had 1 on night 4 My start of game role description from V98 Your Role-specific actions are: N: #KILL [player name], Night 4 only N: #CLEAN/DEFACE [dead player name]’s grave.

[quote=Abs][quote=boomoo82]It would be really helpful to have the two perspectives clearly communicated... What is the argument for killing 2ofClubs? What is the argument for killing Abs? At this point there is a lot of distracting information in the forum, so it would nice to have the 2 arguments explained in one place... [/quote] I want to kill 2ofClubs because he was randomly protected last night and [u]he Had no suspicion around him[/u], The Town Doctor who can offer protection was dead and not Around so nobody from Town was around to protect Clubs unless….he is CIA and they are all protecting each other each night. I think they can only die in day phase by being lynched [b]Secondly,[/b] he is an Earth sign and as proven Town player Tennessee has said and I have said, we need to send Earth players Rock the Dark to keep balance as [b]too many fire[/b] signs there Argument for me to die is: people think I am still a researcher and am Only trying to kill CIA to win, I am a zombie and am making all this up. Remember though when I first came back from the dead, I outed a CIA in Hood and made If a much safer place Town. I also didn’t have any power to stop Atrison (a researcher) dying last night, someone else killed him, likely CIA…. To me it’s obvious that clubs has to go and i Am not a danger but that’s for you all to decide [/quote] [b]Yet you tried to kill me as a no threat to get my element to fight a battle I am not in so secondly should be primary and noted you tried to kill an innocent before the fact that I protected myself and rightly should have as good caring trying to save town[/b] Note I am not trying to save myself but clear the babble and others underlying motives that are all against town oposite of my win clause!

[quote=jkl3699]If Abs is telling the truth, shouldn't we be sending an air sign down instead of another Earth. Sending an earth is just helping him. He's been playing us all this entire game and everyone's just been eating it up[/quote] Send whatever you like just not FIRE! I just only know of Clubs being Earth and dont Know anybody else? Does someone want to volunteer? I just know from v98 that only way apparently to close the seal is Earth and then The game can continue here without further interruptions Imagine if Hood comes back tomorrow into The Light!.

[quote=jkl3699]If Abs is telling the truth, shouldn't we be sending an air sign down instead of another Earth. Sending an earth is just helping him. He's been playing us all this entire game and everyone's just been eating it up[/quote] Abs says the dark game will be over and we can continue. But in typical fashion he can't tell us if he will remain.....

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Abs][quote=boomoo82]It would be really helpful to have the two perspectives clearly communicated... What is the argument for killing 2ofClubs? What is the argument for killing Abs? At this point there is a lot of distracting information in the forum, so it would nice to have the 2 arguments explained in one place... [/quote] I want to kill 2ofClubs because he was randomly protected last night and [u]he Had no suspicion around him[/u], The Town Doctor who can offer protection was dead and not Around so nobody from Town was around to protect Clubs unless….he is CIA and they are all protecting each other each night. I think they can only die in day phase by being lynched [b]Secondly,[/b] he is an Earth sign and as proven Town player Tennessee has said and I have said, we need to send Earth players Rock the Dark to keep balance as [b]too many fire[/b] signs there Argument for me to die is: people think I am still a researcher and am Only trying to kill CIA to win, I am a zombie and am making all this up. Remember though when I first came back from the dead, I outed a CIA in Hood and made If a much safer place Town. I also didn’t have any power to stop Atrison (a researcher) dying last night, someone else killed him, likely CIA…. To me it’s obvious that clubs has to go and i Am not a danger but that’s for you all to decide [/quote] [b]Yet you tried to kill me as a no threat to get my element to fight a battle I am not in so secondly should be primary and noted you tried to kill an innocent before the fact that I protected myself and rightly should have as good caring trying to save town[/b] Note I am not trying to save myself but clear the babble and others underlying motives that are all against town oposite of my win clause! [/quote] How did you save yourself? What was the ability you used?

[quote=Abs][quote=jkl3699]If Abs is telling the truth, shouldn't we be sending an air sign down instead of another Earth. Sending an earth is just helping him. He's been playing us all this entire game and everyone's just been eating it up[/quote] Send whatever you like just not FIRE! I just only know of Clubs being Earth and dont Know anybody else? Does someone want to volunteer? I just know from v98 that only way apparently to close the seal is Earth and then The game can continue here without further interruptions Imagine if Hood comes back tomorrow into The Light!. [/quote] Watching 2 scum fight in the sky....hmm

[quote=ThickTalon][quote=jkl3699]If Abs is telling the truth, shouldn't we be sending an air sign down instead of another Earth. Sending an earth is just helping him. He's been playing us all this entire game and everyone's just been eating it up[/quote] Abs says the dark game will be over and we can continue. But in typical fashion he can't tell us if he will remain.....[/quote] Thick, I didn’t design the game! What can I tell you, I have literally copied and pasted all my info from v98 which I notice nobody else has done….Clubs, maybe you want to show us? Or maybe Thick you do?

[quote=ThickTalon][quote=jkl3699]If Abs is telling the truth, shouldn't we be sending an air sign down instead of another Earth. Sending an earth is just helping him. He's been playing us all this entire game and everyone's just been eating it up[/quote] Abs says the dark game will be over and we can continue. But in typical fashion he can't tell us if he will remain.....[/quote] If I was to guess, I imagine I won’t remain as v98 did say to me “my time back on earth won’t be permanent” so perhaps

[quote=Abs][quote=ThickTalon][quote=Abs][quote=ThickTalon]Abs I am only trying to point out the facts. You have repeatedly said that your research title was gone until recently. Which is it are you earth God or researcher? If you have said I apologize it was lost in the rhetoric Talon[/quote] Read the above again especially the questions from v98, he alluded that I wasn’t any longer affiliated with Researchers when I asked but I am still concerned about protecting them as if they all die CIA win but I think my win Clause now is different and based Around Earth elements prevailing over fire [/quote] Hmm[/quote] Iv literally just given the narration of my story in every detail around how I see it, that’s all I can do, I will repeat again though even taking away the other situation with Astral elements and star signs, I have thought over and over why Clubs is protected last night, but have no logical answer so he is the one we need to Lynch as everyone who is Town can not afford another researcher dead or it’s just so high risk which I know many agree with I think this is the only key thing to think about this phase, then we all regroup and see what best course of action is tomorrow Imagine if Hood comes back as well and that is Another CIA? Can we take that risk? [/quote] I wasn't protected! I took action to stay alive thats all! Again ABS I quote is talking "as he sees it" and talks of ifs and tomorrows. With little follow through. Wasn't the deal after Hood was killed to go after the 95% to 100% CIA Jkl and Ely. But then he attempts a night kill on Innocent non CIA me. Think about it !!!!! I foiled his plan staying alive in this world.

We need a lynch count

[quote=Abs][quote=boomoo82]It would be really helpful to have the two perspectives clearly communicated... What is the argument for killing 2ofClubs? What is the argument for killing Abs? At this point there is a lot of distracting information in the forum, so it would nice to have the 2 arguments explained in one place... [/quote] I want to kill 2ofClubs because he was randomly protected last night and he Had no suspicion around him, The Town Doctor who can offer protection was dead and not Around so nobody from Town was around to protect Clubs unless….he is CIA and they are all protecting each other each night. I think they can only die in day phase by being lynched Secondly, he is an Earth sign and as proven Town player Tennessee has said and I have said, we need to send Earth players Rock the Dark to keep balance as too many fire signs there Argument for me to die is: people think I am still a researcher and am Only trying to kill CIA to win, I am a zombie and am making all this up. Remember though when I first came back from the dead, I outed a CIA in Hood and made If a much safer place Town. I also didn’t have any power to stop Atrison (a researcher) dying last night, someone else killed him, likely CIA…. [b][u]To me [/u][/b]it’s obvious that clubs has to go [b][u]and i Am not a danger[/u][/b] but that’s for [i][u]you all to decide[/u][/i] [/quote] I decided! You are a danger to me YOU TRIED TO KILL NON CIA ME heck what i was a researcher That would be game according to you. Come on, don't be sheep townies.

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Abs][quote=ThickTalon][quote=Abs][quote=ThickTalon]Abs I am only trying to point out the facts. You have repeatedly said that your research title was gone until recently. Which is it are you earth God or researcher? If you have said I apologize it was lost in the rhetoric Talon[/quote] Read the above again especially the questions from v98, he alluded that I wasn’t any longer affiliated with Researchers when I asked but I am still concerned about protecting them as if they all die CIA win but I think my win Clause now is different and based Around Earth elements prevailing over fire [/quote] Hmm[/quote] Iv literally just given the narration of my story in every detail around how I see it, that’s all I can do, I will repeat again though even taking away the other situation with Astral elements and star signs, I have thought over and over why Clubs is protected last night, but have no logical answer so he is the one we need to Lynch as everyone who is Town can not afford another researcher dead or it’s just so high risk which I know many agree with I think this is the only key thing to think about this phase, then we all regroup and see what best course of action is tomorrow Imagine if Hood comes back as well and that is Another CIA? Can we take that risk? [/quote] I wasn't protected! I took action to stay alive thats all! Again ABS I quote is talking "as he sees it" and talks of ifs and tomorrows. With little follow through. Wasn't the deal after Hood was killed to go after the 95% to 100% CIA Jkl and Ely. But then he attempts a night kill on Innocent non CIA me. Think about it !!!!! I foiled his plan staying alive in this world. [/quote] Clubs, I found out Ely was Fire, he admitted it, it’s too risky to kill him now but Ely is absolutely in my list…..JKL would be the one out of the 3 who then isn’t CIA. I said 100% one of them is 95% the other is and not The other What night action did you gave to protect yourself? Why would a town player have that power? Ten was dead and he was Town Doctor so how did you do it? I have literally showed ALL my messages from v98 and i Am playing this straight Show us something v98 to you? What was this magical ability you had?

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Abs][quote=boomoo82]It would be really helpful to have the two perspectives clearly communicated... What is the argument for killing 2ofClubs? What is the argument for killing Abs? At this point there is a lot of distracting information in the forum, so it would nice to have the 2 arguments explained in one place... [/quote] I want to kill 2ofClubs because he was randomly protected last night and he Had no suspicion around him, The Town Doctor who can offer protection was dead and not Around so nobody from Town was around to protect Clubs unless….he is CIA and they are all protecting each other each night. I think they can only die in day phase by being lynched Secondly, he is an Earth sign and as proven Town player Tennessee has said and I have said, we need to send Earth players Rock the Dark to keep balance as too many fire signs there Argument for me to die is: people think I am still a researcher and am Only trying to kill CIA to win, I am a zombie and am making all this up. Remember though when I first came back from the dead, I outed a CIA in Hood and made If a much safer place Town. I also didn’t have any power to stop Atrison (a researcher) dying last night, someone else killed him, likely CIA…. [b][u]To me [/u][/b]it’s obvious that clubs has to go [b][u]and i Am not a danger[/u][/b] but that’s for [i][u]you all to decide[/u][/i] [/quote] I decided! You are a danger to me YOU TRIED TO KILL NON CIA ME heck what i was a researcher That would be game according to you. Come on, don't be sheep townies.[/quote] Well if you are a researcher does that not prove even more I am not on that side now and have The Town interest at heart! Now is the time to come clean Clubs…..

Where we are today, by keeping me alive today, you know the game won’t end….by potentially letting CIA stay again and kill me or any other research, the game could end Take it 1 day at a time and assess, at this stage I am not a danger and I am hoping the longer I stay around the more you will see that If I do survive though, obviously I will need protection as someone in Fire or CIA will kill me