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Abs wrote:
Some of my chats with V98....

1. When you say win clause is have 2 or more earth occupants in The Dark. does this mean the game is over both on Earth in The Light and also In The Dark?
2. Can we send PMs and have Open comms with the players in The Dark?
3. Are we still in the same faction in The dark as we were in Earth? Example, are Mada and myself still on the same team? Both researchers? Or will mada now perhaps have a star sign that isn’t Earth and we are now against each other?
4. When whispering to a player in the Light, I assume we should be trying to send messages to researchers to allow our old faction to win?
5. If we are Exalted, will we go back as our old character or as something else? Will the other light players know we are back?

V98 responses:

1. Earth as in Earth Element - the Zodiacs are grouped into four elements: Fire, Earth, Air, Water. So you need to make it so only Earth Zodiac signs occupy the Dark, and get rid of the Fire, Air and Water zodiac signs. Make sense? Beware though, if Fire take over The Dark the game will be over
2. No, same rules apply, I will create all PMs between players who are allowed to talk.
3. New faction groups are entirely independent of previous faction groups. It is random chance whether you are still on the same team or not.
4. Focus on achieving your own current win clause as your old win clause may no longer exist. But do whatever you'd like, it's up to you! Bear in mind that by #Whispering, you use up one of your actions so you will have less influence in the #Exalt/Abase voting.
5. You do not currently know the answer to this, but think of it from my perspective - would I create a mechanic whereby you can resurrect if it was just a guaranteed death in the same role?

I think you need to pay specific attention to v98 answer to No5 as this clearly shows that I have a bigger role now that just Researcher and that side is gone and its all based on Elements now. Maybe as Ten was Town already, v98 didnt change his role?

I dont think v98 thought it through though that when I returned yesterday it would be in a a phase, thats why I had to work SO HARD to not be lynched but I am glad I survived as it least it has now given me some time to show you the wider game mechanics at play. I hope all this helps...
2ofclubs wrote:
2ofclubs
Town ABS's time is limited
If we lynch these Zombies apparently they can go back . eventually they will all die. I don't think a dark win clause of an element dominating the realm with earth folks alive exist. I just DK .

Town, ABS's time is limited on earth.
they can NOT go back - Lynch them????

8 dead: 3 town, 2 Researchers, 2 unknown ( likely 1 R and 1 Town), 1 CIA. { 3 to never return - Town, ? and ? with 1 zombie researcher and 1 zombie town claiming no faction. YET Abs said he is still the Gardener and Ten said he could open hospital} = 6 dead of 20 18.
12 alive not including Zombies.
4 unclaimed occupations
In spite of the claim the earth game is about over there is lot left as I see it. 

5 am past the time for RL sleep. :(

Judge away and vote. 
WRKD4IT
Abs wrote:
2ofclubs
2ofclubs
Town ABS's time is limited
If we lynch these Zombies apparently they can go back . eventually they will all die. I don't think a dark win clause of an element dominating the realm with earth folks alive exist. I just DK .

Town, ABS's time is limited on earth.
they can NOT go back - Lynch them????

8 dead: 3 town, 2 Researchers, 2 unknown ( likely 1 R and 1 Town), 1 CIA. { 3 to never return - Town, ? and ? with 1 zombie researcher and 1 zombie town claiming no faction. YET Abs said he is still the Gardener and Ten said he could open hospital} = 6 dead of 20 18.
12 alive not including Zombies.
4 unclaimed occupations
In spite of the claim the earth game is about over there is lot left as I see it. 

5 am past the time for RL sleep. :(

Judge away and vote. 

We can only go back once and whislt many will die (like Orz) in the Dark, those that are Exalted will come back but if Ten and I die again its gone forever
periwinkle wrote:
I'm sorry....players who have not died still have their original win clause and im going to continue to play that way until something changes.  Is clubs CiA? Why should I lynch him? I need better reason than Astral signs. That is your battle zombies not the town's living players.  We need to somehow get a cia/researchers dead and lynched at the same time to win. So help us do that then ill help you will your signs after.
2ofclubs wrote:
1338 Error I forgot Antrison
9 dead: 3 town, 3 Researchers, 2 unknown ( likely 1 R and 1 Town), 1 CIA. { 3 to never return - Town, ? and ? with 1 zombie researcher and 1 zombie town claiming no faction. YET Abs said he is still the Gardener and Ten said he could open hospital} = 7 dead of 20 18.
11 alive not including Zombies.
4 unclaimed occupations
WRKD4IT
Abs wrote:
periwinkle
I'm sorry....players who have not died still have their original win clause and im going to continue to play that way until something changes.  Is clubs CiA? Why should I lynch him? I need better reason than Astral signs. That is your battle zombies not the town's living players.  We need to somehow get a cia/researchers dead and lynched at the same time to win. So help us do that then ill help you will your signs after.

I think Clubs is CIA, hence why he was protected last night....who would have protected him if he was just a normal town? No reason to do so at all....
Abs wrote:
HE wasnt under suspicion, he wasnt claiming any other role but Town but somehow he was protected last night....it makes no sense, he has to be CIA and he cant be a researcher as nobody left to protect him in that team haha!

I also think he is Earth which also means that will help all of us get balance to all the Fire players in the Dark.

Peri, read my Q&A with v98 above, it gives alot of context to it all. I agree that all normal players who are not Zombies likely do still have their orignal win clause but I am a Zombie and I do not have my original win clause but I do know that if CIA kill all researchers left (1 I think) then game over
Abs wrote:
periwinkle
So what is the lynch count so far? Who is on the chopping block?

Probably I am as always!
2ofclubs wrote:
periwinkle
I'm sorry....players who have not died still have their original win clause and im going to continue to play that way until something changes.  Is clubs CiA? Why should I lynch him? I need better reason than Astral signs. That is your battle zombies not the town's living players.  We need to somehow get a cia/researchers dead and lynched at the same time to win. So help us do that then ill help you will your signs after.
Nice stance Peri
Again I am 100% NOT CIA or Researcher  My Lynch would apparently help ABS and me if I am in the dark according to ABS. That sai, ABS & I have a chance winning the Dark and ending the game????  I would wager Ten won't let me be lynched being of the dark world .... oh wait he is now of the Light again 'Othello'

uh what do I know. :roll:
WRKD4IT
2ofclubs wrote:
Abs
periwinkle
I'm sorry....players who have not died still have their original win clause and im going to continue to play that way until something changes.  Is clubs CiA? Why should I lynch him? I need better reason than Astral signs. That is your battle zombies not the town's living players.  We need to somehow get a cia/researchers dead and lynched at the same time to win. So help us do that then ill help you will your signs after.

I think Clubs is CIA, hence why he was protected last night....who would have protected him if he was just a normal town? No reason to do so at all....

I PROTECTED MYSELF fast on caffeine or did the Taxi drive me to safety or did the builder build me a bunker or did the governor give me a pardon or did did the salesman sell me a shield or did the cop protect me or did I get some excellent coaching or the investor invested in the town ..........
TBH I protected myself.
WRKD4IT
Abs wrote:
periwinkle
Tenn who are you lynching?...if both zombies can agree that will be my pick

Ten is lycnhing me currenttly which to me is obvious as he is a Fire element as is Hood which doesnt add up to me...why would he be ok with potentially the last reasearcher being killed and CIA win if he is Town? Makes no sense

I have no idea who last researcher is...