I offer my two best leads without hearing to much else from everyone during the last phase:
The first offering is my conversation with Lando. I probably wouldn't have shared this, but the level of defensiveness at the end makes me very suspicious. (I know Lando seemingly feels betrayed, but it is just a game.) I am editing some intense language out per forum rules.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 21:39
Hi Lando,
Anything you might tell me to prove that you are town?
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:45
I haven’t used my action yet so there’s not much that would prove it outright. However, I’d like to point out that every time I’ve been accused people don’t really provide any substance. Like, Kyla never even said why I am “40%” suspicious. Do with that what you will, I guess.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:47
I did find that funny, and you have made some other nicely timed information shares. It is obvious you are paying attention to what everyone is saying.
Why not share your role PM with me?
After my info dump, are people still not sure that I am town?
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:47
Also, can you share your conversation from yesterday's work groups after you were moved?
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:53
If you share your role I’ll share mine and the day 3 group chat log. Don’t want to throw anyone under the bus unless I’m sure of who I’m talking to.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:53
I shared my role in the forum. You didn't see it!!!
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:53
As for your info dump- it could also be a neutral play. So much info that it takes the spotlight off you and you can steal the win.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:54
??? (that was supposed to be a question)
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:54
What page is it on
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:55
I actually expected to be killed last night. The Mdhaglund kill makes more sense. I wish I were that skilled to devise a plan like that and have it work from start to finish.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:57
Post 321 on page 22
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:58
Did you run out of your ability? I would have put a camera on mdhag’s cell because it was basically confirmed he was a doctor.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:01
The first part is the final snip from the intel my camera gave me about the other work group. Just for extra info I guess. Prob not much use.
Spoiler (click to show)
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:02
I also shared this with the entire Gardening group today. The fact that I was knocked out, at least.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:03
Ohhh you got knocked out. Damn.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:04
Yeah. I assume I will be next on the hit list.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:06
I say share your role PM so we can form a solid voting coalition. I've had contact with two others in the group so far today. One of them has shared important info.
We need to kill a mafia or neutral today to keep our advantage.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:07
Madagascarter said:
11 Aug 2021, 07:15 pm
No messages in forums please. Just here & PM thx
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 08:25 pm
Ok cool thanks.... I'm extremely suspicious of the lynch. Despite many warnings that v98 was a good prisoner.. wat have you to say for yourselves....???? What were you thinking?
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 08:46 pm
Perhaps if you saw that many warnings and you are that suspicious, you should say something in the thread. Not get upset about it after the fact.
Like I explained in the thread, I was pretty confident that Clubs is a prisoner and he is very at risk right now. I wanted to protect him so I voted for v98, who was the main instigator against clubs. Now, I’m not so sure.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 08:55 pm
Well we all get fooled it's the name of the game. Just disappointed is all an I did post twice of his innocence maybe people should read thread when it's provided
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 10:39 pm
Your two forum posts were surface level observations that had already been made. Your first forum post was discussed, with myself included. Most people agreed that just sharing info and talking doesn't really earn innocence. Then, your next post was a simple sign off saying "I dont think v98 is Mafia therefore no bandwagon for me" and not even going into why. I did read the thread, there was nothing "provided" from you.
Be the change that you want to see. That's the whole point of this game.
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 10:40 pm
This conversation does nothing for us as well. I'll start with something of actual substance: last night I was "knocked out". I am struggling to find out why. Combing through the forum I don't think I set anyone off, so if I did it's one of the silent players who didn't like what I said.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:02 pm
Well I will say I was knocked out the 1st night... But I actually do know why..
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:05 pm
Did you share your ability with someone? Maybe they thought what you can do is a bad thing for mafia. Or it could be the other neutral, since Abs was one of two neutrals in the game.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:07 pm
Who is it?
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:07 pm
Sorry but whom are you referring to
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:09 pm
If you shared your ability with someone, perhaps that person you told is mafia/neutral.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:49 pm
I haven't shared wit anyone .
SHJENKE said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:32 am
Hmm?
Are u sure?
Vicious said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:41 am
Yes we'll v98 knew my ability... But I personally shared wit no one else
LandoCalriskian said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:43 am
Why do you think you got knocked out then?
Vicious said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:48 am
So that answer would reveal my ability. So if you share yours (ability) then I will share wit the two of you both of you
LandoCalriskian said:
12 Aug 2021, 01:00 am
I will pm you.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:07
Madagascarter said:
04 Aug 2021, 08:42 pm
Vigilante
You are a prisoner on the side of The Prisoners
You were arrested for assassinating a political tyrant. You think of yourself as a hero, not a criminal but you are in here all the same.
During the Working Day Phase you may kill a player in the same room as you. However you realise that you have to shoot carefully because if you get it wrong then you could be easily sussed out.
The Prisoners win when all mafia and neutrals are eliminated.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:09
What the heck!!!!????? What is that role? You haven't killed anyone yet, either!??
I am sorry, but that reads sooooo much like a neutral role. I am not going to go dumping it out there at all, but holy cow. That is a lot of power for you.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:11
I didn't get time to really think about everything. Need to pick up dinner and won't be on for two hours.
Very happy you shared. I will not share without first notifying you of my move, as I appreciate the leap of faith.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:12
It’s a pretty standard mafia role. Don’t share unless I give you permission.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 01:52
I would really really like to know the ability that Vicious shared with you.
Do you think Vicious is town, and, if so, why?
I will check in with you about sharing your role.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 05:06
He asked me to not share his role and I'm honoring that. I think he's town- he's already used his action once effectively for the prisoners.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 17:20
I think that you should shoot SHJENKE right now.
Will you do that?
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:14
Why
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:17
I maybe could have phrased it as "would you be willing to do that"?
I thought of a better question to probe the group chat with, but not everyone is active right now. I guess people might notice if you kill someone now. Just thinking of some subtle ways to get people talking in the game. It is to towns advantage to have this turn into a more communicative game at this point.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:19
OH, and SHJENKE is an inactive. Blue had mentioned in the forums that he had a theory about one mafia being inactive. Having you actually "execute" (sorry) you claimed ability would be a great way for me to 100% confirm your allegiance to town before we get to the voting phase.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:19
So, are you considering it?
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:30
Haha I’m not killing someone to prove something to you. That’s ridiculous.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:35
Well, from my perspective it makes perfect sense.
I can understand why you would like it though. I am just working with the current leverage that I have.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:50
I sent the following message to two other people that are near the top of my trust list:
If I die during this phase, it was probably Lando. Not saying he is mafia, but he did share his claimed role PM.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:52
LOL
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:52
Right!!! I shouldn't take any chances with you! You are scary.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:57
That is so f***ing stupid. Now I either have to confess my powers and become a mafia target, or do nothing and be lynched wrongly.
If you want the prisoners to win maybe don’t go around with all these horse shit half stories based on assumptions and emotion. Don’t message me again.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:58
Dang. The hostility. I won't message you again. Don't worry about it.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:59
I’m f***ing hostile when I confide something in you and you treat my life like it’s a fucking bargaining piece. Have you no honor?
I offer my two best leads without hearing to much else from everyone during the last phase:
The first offering is my conversation with Lando. I probably wouldn't have shared this, but the level of defensiveness at the end makes me very suspicious. (I know Lando seemingly feels betrayed, but it is just a game.) I am editing some intense language out per forum rules.
[spoiler][quote]rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 21:39
Hi Lando,
Anything you might tell me to prove that you are town?
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:45
I haven’t used my action yet so there’s not much that would prove it outright. However, I’d like to point out that every time I’ve been accused people don’t really provide any substance. Like, Kyla never even said why I am “40%” suspicious. Do with that what you will, I guess.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:47
I did find that funny, and you have made some other nicely timed information shares. It is obvious you are paying attention to what everyone is saying.
Why not share your role PM with me?
After my info dump, are people still not sure that I am town?
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:47
Also, can you share your conversation from yesterday's work groups after you were moved?
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:53
If you share your role I’ll share mine and the day 3 group chat log. Don’t want to throw anyone under the bus unless I’m sure of who I’m talking to.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:53
I shared my role in the forum. You didn't see it!!!
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:53
As for your info dump- it could also be a neutral play. So much info that it takes the spotlight off you and you can steal the win.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:54
??? (that was supposed to be a question)
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:54
What page is it on
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:55
I actually expected to be killed last night. The Mdhaglund kill makes more sense. I wish I were that skilled to devise a plan like that and have it work from start to finish.
rheisel said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:57
Post 321 on page 22
LandoCalriskian said:
14 Aug 2021, 23:58
Did you run out of your ability? I would have put a camera on mdhag’s cell because it was basically confirmed he was a doctor.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:01
The first part is the final snip from the intel my camera gave me about the other work group. Just for extra info I guess. Prob not much use.
Spoiler (click to show)
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:02
I also shared this with the entire Gardening group today. The fact that I was knocked out, at least.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:03
Ohhh you got knocked out. Damn.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:04
Yeah. I assume I will be next on the hit list.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:06
I say share your role PM so we can form a solid voting coalition. I've had contact with two others in the group so far today. One of them has shared important info.
We need to kill a mafia or neutral today to keep our advantage.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:07
Madagascarter said:
11 Aug 2021, 07:15 pm
No messages in forums please. Just here & PM thx
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 08:25 pm
Ok cool thanks.... I'm extremely suspicious of the lynch. Despite many warnings that v98 was a good prisoner.. wat have you to say for yourselves....???? What were you thinking?
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 08:46 pm
Perhaps if you saw that many warnings and you are that suspicious, you should say something in the thread. Not get upset about it after the fact.
Like I explained in the thread, I was pretty confident that Clubs is a prisoner and he is very at risk right now. I wanted to protect him so I voted for v98, who was the main instigator against clubs. Now, I’m not so sure.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 08:55 pm
Well we all get fooled it's the name of the game. Just disappointed is all an I did post twice of his innocence maybe people should read thread when it's provided
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 10:39 pm
Your two forum posts were surface level observations that had already been made. Your first forum post was discussed, with myself included. Most people agreed that just sharing info and talking doesn't really earn innocence. Then, your next post was a simple sign off saying "I dont think v98 is Mafia therefore no bandwagon for me" and not even going into why. I did read the thread, there was nothing "provided" from you.
Be the change that you want to see. That's the whole point of this game.
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 10:40 pm
This conversation does nothing for us as well. I'll start with something of actual substance: last night I was "knocked out". I am struggling to find out why. Combing through the forum I don't think I set anyone off, so if I did it's one of the silent players who didn't like what I said.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:02 pm
Well I will say I was knocked out the 1st night... But I actually do know why..
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:05 pm
Did you share your ability with someone? Maybe they thought what you can do is a bad thing for mafia. Or it could be the other neutral, since Abs was one of two neutrals in the game.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:07 pm
Who is it?
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:07 pm
Sorry but whom are you referring to
LandoCalriskian said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:09 pm
If you shared your ability with someone, perhaps that person you told is mafia/neutral.
Vicious said:
11 Aug 2021, 11:49 pm
I haven't shared wit anyone .
SHJENKE said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:32 am
Hmm?
Are u sure?
Vicious said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:41 am
Yes we'll v98 knew my ability... But I personally shared wit no one else
LandoCalriskian said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:43 am
Why do you think you got knocked out then?
Vicious said:
12 Aug 2021, 12:48 am
So that answer would reveal my ability. So if you share yours (ability) then I will share wit the two of you both of you
LandoCalriskian said:
12 Aug 2021, 01:00 am
I will pm you.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:07
Madagascarter said:
04 Aug 2021, 08:42 pm
Vigilante
You are a prisoner on the side of The Prisoners
You were arrested for assassinating a political tyrant. You think of yourself as a hero, not a criminal but you are in here all the same.
During the Working Day Phase you may kill a player in the same room as you. However you realise that you have to shoot carefully because if you get it wrong then you could be easily sussed out.
The Prisoners win when all mafia and neutrals are eliminated.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:09
What the heck!!!!????? What is that role? You haven't killed anyone yet, either!??
I am sorry, but that reads sooooo much like a neutral role. I am not going to go dumping it out there at all, but holy cow. That is a lot of power for you.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:11
I didn't get time to really think about everything. Need to pick up dinner and won't be on for two hours.
Very happy you shared. I will not share without first notifying you of my move, as I appreciate the leap of faith.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 00:12
It’s a pretty standard mafia role. Don’t share unless I give you permission.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 01:52
I would really really like to know the ability that Vicious shared with you.
Do you think Vicious is town, and, if so, why?
I will check in with you about sharing your role.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 05:06
He asked me to not share his role and I'm honoring that. I think he's town- he's already used his action once effectively for the prisoners.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 17:20
I think that you should shoot SHJENKE right now.
Will you do that?
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:14
Why
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:17
I maybe could have phrased it as "would you be willing to do that"?
I thought of a better question to probe the group chat with, but not everyone is active right now. I guess people might notice if you kill someone now. Just thinking of some subtle ways to get people talking in the game. It is to towns advantage to have this turn into a more communicative game at this point.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:19
OH, and SHJENKE is an inactive. Blue had mentioned in the forums that he had a theory about one mafia being inactive. Having you actually "execute" (sorry) you claimed ability would be a great way for me to 100% confirm your allegiance to town before we get to the voting phase.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:19
So, are you considering it?
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:30
Haha I’m not killing someone to prove something to you. That’s ridiculous.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:35
Well, from my perspective it makes perfect sense.
I can understand why you would like it though. I am just working with the current leverage that I have.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:50
I sent the following message to two other people that are near the top of my trust list:
If I die during this phase, it was probably Lando. Not saying he is mafia, but he did share his claimed role PM.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:52
LOL
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:52
Right!!! I shouldn't take any chances with you! You are scary.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:57
That is so f***ing stupid. Now I either have to confess my powers and become a mafia target, or do nothing and be lynched wrongly.
If you want the prisoners to win maybe don’t go around with all these horse shit half stories based on assumptions and emotion. Don’t message me again.
rheisel said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:58
Dang. The hostility. I won't message you again. Don't worry about it.
LandoCalriskian said:
15 Aug 2021, 18:59
I’m f***ing hostile when I confide something in you and you treat my life like it’s a fucking bargaining piece. Have you no honor?[/quote] [/spoiler]
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