Money & Masks 2
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Ryomyr wrote:
@2ofClubs ... I didn't communicate well. I was just trying to say that I believe you.  I believe you. 

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Hoodlum wrote:
if you are mafia, capulet or montague voting tennesseelogman is a straight forward vote. we make mistakes in early lynches, but this won't be one unless you are romeo or juliet maybe according to what TLG has mentioned. as per the theme which we all know, both romeo and juliet go against their houses to be with each other.
3 mafia
3 neutrals - tenesseelogman/romeo/juliet
5 /4 or 4/5  of capulet/montague - i think ready4war kind of gave us a part of the theme where it balances this out. has to take down one of his own. 
shop owner, has to be a neutral, i'm going to bet it's TLG.
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elysium5 wrote:
Hoodlum
if you are mafia, capulet or montague voting tennesseelogman is a straight forward vote. we make mistakes in early lynches, but this won't be one unless you are romeo or juliet maybe according to what TLG has mentioned. as per the theme which we all know, both romeo and juliet go against their houses to be with each other.
3 mafia
3 neutrals - tenesseelogman/romeo/juliet
5 /4 or 4/5  of capulet/montague - i think ready4war kind of gave us a part of the theme where it balances this out. has to take down one of his own. 
shop owner, has to be a neutral, i'm going to bet it's TLG.
My only question is will we lose a lynch vote by losing Tenn? If it really won't affect the town otherwise, I am fine with lynching Tenn. I am town and my win clause is to eliminate mafia and hostile neutrals and outnumber my rival house.
"Bad Deadpool... Good Deadpool!"
Hoodlum wrote:

If killed, the Shop goes to the killer.
If lynched, the Shop goes to the Lord of Verona.

this will probably go to elysium if i am correct about TLG and he is lynched. At least if we know who the shop owner will be, and what player/regime to elect for.

in this case, @Virtuosity does the shop ownership get transferred to each new voted in Lord of Verona? or stays with the current one throughout?
either way, the shop owner will be kept in check and protect himself with knowledge of purchases, $ to save himself, while being useful for town. otherwise, this neutral shop owner is going to just keep getting powerful as the game goes. ask anax :)
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2ofclubs wrote:
If Ely is mafia LORD and shop owner - then we're doomed.

@ Virt
1) can shop owner adjust prices?
2) can coins be shared/gifted?
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elysium5 wrote:
2ofclubs
If Ely is mafia LORD and shop owner - then we're doomed.

@ Virt
1) can shop owner adjust prices?
2) can coins be shared/gifted?
I'm town and I can prove it, which is why I didn't do the check houses on the first night. I promised Anax I would at some point explain my action and I needed to do it right away for it to help town. I will keep that promise, just not quite yet so it doesn't hurt town.
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2ofclubs wrote:
Tennesseelogman
yes - he has a Beige mask on
now why would you want to lynch the only person sharing info and the only person that you know is not mafia and only has goodwill in his heart and role assignment
- in post 239 Ely ask about shop keeper mask color.
- in post 240 TLM answered beige
- in post 245 Rock confirmed and post
- in post 248 Mil also confirmed

Does this make Tennessee not the shop keeper ???
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2ofclubs wrote:
Tenn can be giving his own color as a buyer not the sell but in fact be the seller.
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Hoodlum wrote:
2ofclubs
Tennesseelogman
yes - he has a Beige mask on
now why would you want to lynch the only person sharing info and the only person that you know is not mafia and only has goodwill in his heart and role assignment
- in post 239 Ely ask about shop keeper mask color.
- in post 240 TLM answered beige
- in post 245 Rock confirmed and post
- in post 248 Mil also confirmed

Does this make Tennessee not the shop keeper ???

TLM answered beige. unless he is colour blind (my character was colourblind last time) he would have been told this by virt, easy to answer. we found this out early in the last mask theme, so it isn't a suprise to know the original color mask of the shop owner as he wouldn't have purchased a spare mask yet and we know noone swapped masks. those that confirmed just lets us know that they purchased something from the shop, possibly one of them is the shop owner. tenn saying the mask is beige is easy to answer, and a good tactic to get in there offering "info" before anyone else. tenn might have known that anyone who purchased something will know the shopkeepers mask colour. not preventable day 1.
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2ofclubs wrote:
exactly, he can be the shop keeper in a beige mask or buyer seeing the beige masked shop keeper.
  
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Tennesseelogman wrote:
some would say that anything that has happened in past games is irrelevant to this game - but if you remember i advised that if you voted to lynch me that mafia would win. r4w voted to lynch me and the game was immediately over = mafia won. that being said - when you lynch me (for i know you will now or later) the game will not be over a mafia will not immediately win - but you will lose a valuable asset. sure i am going to play to win but aside from my blunder (which actually has given you info which is what you all say you want) i have generated some other info on others. why would you not wait to see what other info i can logically deduce and share? here's an example of what is on my notepad = if and when 2ofclubs is killed = if he is mafia = that clears rheisel from being mafia. its not much i know but it is a start. how did i come to that conclusion? i'm glad you asked. = based on rheisel's statement in post 267
rheisel wrote:  Posted: Today, 00:16 
Post #267
2ofClubs -- I believe that you attempted to make night actions that were "noted" and then you were subsequently forbidden to go out at night.
that tells me that 2ofclubs and rheisel are not in a private chat (both mafia) or rheisel would have pm him to use that excuse.

i am not the shop keeper - i was the 1st to id his mask color before others followed to verify. i would certainly not be the 1st to reveal my own mask color.
i therefore vote #no lynch but could be swayed to vote 2oc if further evidence is submitted. i think it is in the best interest of town and this neutral if we lynch only mafia and not each other like (has been pointed out) in the past few games.
Live long and prosper
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Hoodlum wrote:
sorry, neutral isn't part of my win clause. easy vote for information, rather than the one you suggested. too early to know if anyone is mafia, but we know who is not town.
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2ofclubs wrote:
LOL how does that make me mafia? You can also say if and when rheisel's killed = if hes is mafia = clubs is cleared..  IFs will kill the town
On Juliette's virginity I swear I do not need to be cleared of being mafia.  Oh wait to late for that swear LOL 
@ Tennessee  May I ask what past evidence (not speculations) do you have for lynching? I am sure all the lynchers would like your note pad data to avoid a friendly kill.

By the way is there a pre pole on lynch status?
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