A few suggestions

But I suggest the "spy" feature be an option, not automatic on every fog game.

Yeah, what he said ^

I still advocate for "resign" button being DISABLED in All Fog games, especially Fog Capitals.

BTW, I see the "decaying troops" are now the default.
I like the "Colorblind Option".(I'm not, but I think it will help people to stay and play, which is usually a good thing for all.) Thanks Vexer

Vexer(in Live Game chat): "If a player doesn't use the resign button when they quit just to make you wait and we know that they know about the button then they get a couple warnings and then they get banned."

Wow! This seems a bit extreme. Use of the "resign" button is no longer an option, but mandatory. Here, again, I see this worrying trend where rules and admin action FORCE what should be a social-Darwinian effect.

Any word on Disabling "Resign" button in Fog Capitals games?

Spam, I'm sure you understand that the resign button is to prevent two things: players making everyone wait while they skip 2 turns, and players suiciding so that they are killed quickly.

If the button is disabled in fog, what's to prevent either of these from happening? If a player is going to leave, he is going to do it regardless of a button or not, but we would like to make it so that other players are only minimally affected. However, you did have a good point about too much information being revealed, so I'm curious to hear if you have any ideas on a solution that would address both our points.

In addition, why are you complaining about the mandatory use of a resign button? In theory I see what you're thinking but in this case, is there any possible acceptable reason someone wouldn't want to use it? The reasons I can think of are to prevent the stat from showing on your profile, or to be spiteful towards your opponent and make them wait. Both of these are selfish actions and not something we want to allow here.

If you can give some good reasons which address my above point, maybe we can consider alternatives.

Well I choose not to use the resign button cause 1) I play with killrick's mindest of fighting to the last man and 2) no, I dont want it to be seen on my profile

speaking of killrick, I havent seen him on in a long time

Look, spamfree, this site is not some internet trash can. We only want respectful, serious players here. It is very disrespectful to intentionally make a player wait 10 minutes while you time out when all you have to do is click a button and save them 10 minutes. Time is the most limited resource individuals have. Wasting someones time intentionally will not be tolerated.

Vexer, if resigning is going to be mandatory, can you eliminate the tokens required to resign? If we want to eliminate people missing turns, it seems counterproductive to force them to resign and also charge them for it.

I know the rebuttal is that it doesn't cost many tokens and most of us have more tokens then we will ever use (BTW, what are they used for again, besides playing premium maps for us non-premiums members?).

Personally, I don't care as I don't buy rank, but a lot of people here seem very concerned with their rank and may not want to spend the tokens to resign when they can just miss turns to get booted.

Resigning isn't mandatory, just take your turns if you don't want to lose tokens. If you want to bail on a game it's going to cost you 40 tokens. Trying to save the 40 tokens by just letting your timer run out will get you banned.

Vexer. How dare you talk to people that way. Just because you are (a big wig) administrator, owner, president, CEO, CFO, POS, whatever your title is. You would not have a JOB if it was not for us. What gives you the RIGHT to hammer on people. I could give two sh*ts about how much work you do. IT'S YOUR JOB BUD. The way you have talked to spamfree (full member), and myself (full member) is unacceptable. And until THAT day changes....THIS IS A TRASH SITE!

Sincerely,
Hambone19fn67

forums are to fix things, not have site admin hammer on you. It runs people off

@jonboy1967
You think I get paid to do this? I'm a volunteer so it's NOT my job. Why do I bother working for nothing for disrespectful and ungrateful people like yourself? Are you trying to get me to quit? That would put an end to the updates that have been requested. Is that what you want?

You complain about the way I communicate? Re-read what you just wrote and tell it's not 10 times more insulting than what I wrote...calling me a POS, telling me to do my job when I don't get paid and calling the site trash. Honestly I have no idea what I said that could upset you that much. Could you tell me exactly what was wrong with what I said in response to SpamFree? The only thing I can think of to say it nicer and still communicate the exact meaning required would be to remove the word 'look' at the beginning. Did you really get that worked up over the word look? I have every right to use that word. It perfectly conveyed my frustration with SpamFree not understanding the main purpose of the resign button -- to save time. Why can he voice his frustration but not me?

JB ive said something similar to Vexer because I had a short fuse than, but you and quite honestly the rest of us do not really understand how much Vexer and the programmers really do to help us, 1) He fix our games when we have problems, 2) He has created maps that WE all enjoy playing 3) Ive been a member since 2012 when most of the current players werent playing and Vexer literally ran everything, always checking chats, helping players with games, He really has done alot for this site. Shame on you for trashing him, and Vexer had a great point, why does he bother making this site the best and user friendly site out there when all he gets is complaining from all of us.

Also JB, look at his comments, not once did he attack spamfree, he made a comment about wasting people's time and that doing so will not be tolerated. Would you not agree with that statement? I do, how annoying is it when someone times out and you have to wait 3, 5, or 7 minutes? Please think before you start running your mouth

Vexer, thank you for ALL you do, all the crap you deal with, and constantly working to make this site the site it is! And to all the programmers, Admins, and map makers, from a grateful member I want to say thank you

@vandelay1899

I have just changed the code so that it only removes tokens and increments your profile stat if you go neutral. That means if you resign in a 2 player game or when there are only 2 players left it won't cost any tokens and it won't count towards the number of times you've resigned on your profile page.

thanks for all the stuff you do for this site vexer your work really is appriciated

See, just EXACTLY the response I thought I would get. Ungrateful..disrespectful..That is who you are Vexer. You have no idea who I am. The one and only reason I even said a thing goes way back to when I first joined. You treated, and spoke to me the way you are spamfree. Ok, so you volunteered to do this. I can get that. You invest your time. I get that. You have helped in way more ways than anyone could ever say on one blog. But man, you go way over the line for an admin when you get bent. It's not fair. You should filter, decide what you want to hear and not hear. But you attack. I attack, its no big deal. I am just a drip of water in the universe. You disrespect people, EVERYONE sees it. Makes you unapproachable, even though you need to be VERY approachable.