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Rockbert wrote:
elysium5
Thank you for revealing Abs role. Now we must ask ourselves, is Abs still a threat? Is jkl a CIA? Does killing Abs now make sense as it further helps CIA achieve win clause?

jkl revealed the role so I won't just jump to the conclusion that he is CIA. I believe that would be a mistake but it is a possibility.

I'm more concerned that 2 townies are dead and this would mean that 2 researchers will also be dead thus giving the CIA a huge advantage.

It is too early in the game for that.

I think we should all go after someone else collectively right now in the hopes of finding out even more info this phase.

Open to suggestions on who to switch a vote to.

#Unlynch Abs

#Lynch TBD

right now I agree with this line of thinking. Until something else comes to light, I am also going to #Unlynch Abs and maintain the right to switch back or to someone else entirely. This would be a huge swing for the CIA, not saying Jkl is CIA, but the question is fair.
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Abs wrote:
As I keep saying, I am not a threat, I have a Night Protect ability which allows me to save Town members (if I choose town). I also want the opportunity to use my #clean/deface action at night on Chip and Orz to see what good it brings us. I have zero interest in using it on Mada as I know he is a confirmed Researcher. Trust me to use this ability on Chip or Orz (If I survive the lynch and even the night)

So basically, if we can work out who is confirmed Town I can opt to protect them whenever needed in night phases but I will obviosuly need protection as well
Abs wrote:
So does it say CIA win cluase it to eliminate All Researchers? Where is this?
jkl3699 wrote:
Abs
So does it say CIA win cluase it to eliminate All Researchers? Where is this?

Both the win clause for the CIA and the Researchers has been hidden to the town, so I don't know. What is your win clause, Abs, since we already know that you're a researcher?
Tennesseelogman wrote:
yes i see the DOB but can not think of a way to use that info

boomoo82 wrote: 
I requested to visit a player so Virt set it up in a PM.
Tenn - can you tell us who it was with?
I met with Ryo, as I am interested in deciding on what business to invest in next!

did you request ryo by name or occupation?
Live long and prosper
elysium5 wrote:
Abs
So does it say CIA win cluase it to eliminate All Researchers? Where is this?
In the very first post in the generic CIA role PM paragraph
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2ofclubs wrote:
Interesting I see merit in Ely's take. Then again we could be risking our town even though we have a mafia strung up already. This may make Ely a Researcher trying to keep his probably only known accomplish alive or truly trying to keep faction balance.  If we switch and inadvertently lynch a town, the town is down -3, researcher -1 with possibly 2 regrouped. 
As Ten mentioned the town is strong and we can focus on researchers but then we don't know what the CIA win clause is.
I am going to risk staying w/ #lynch ABS.
 My motto is:
Sometimes, life is about risking everything for a dream nobody can see but you.
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elysium5 wrote:
it says CIA have been sent here on a life-or-death mission: kill the Researchers
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jkl3699 wrote:
Generic Researcher Role PM paragraph (click to hide)
You are a Researcher. You remember nothing of your research project, nor of your associates. The CIA are out to kill you and steal your research. The Town is furious with anyone they can think to blame for the madness. Your objective is to survive and regroup, in order to continue your research once the crisis is over.
Win clause: ___________________________
Generic CIA Role PM paragraph (click to hide)
You are a CIA agent. You have been sent here on a life-or-death mission: kill the Researchers, get to the bottom of this mystery, and get the info back to the government. Whatever power is behind this, it could alter the future of mankind. However, the Researchers were one step ahead of you and are doubtless plotting your demise. Moreover, the Town is furious with anyone they can think to blame for the madness.
Win clause: ___________________________

This is from the first page. We do not know the specific win clauses, and I doubt that V98 made them something such as "kill al researchers" or "kill all CIA"
jkl3699 wrote:
Given how the researcher paragraph is phrased, I'm assuming that their win clause revolves around finding a certain amount of information before they all get lynched. For the CIA, it says that they also have to "get info back to the government" I'm assuming that their win clause isn't so simple either.
elysium5 wrote:
I think Tenn and 2ofC are too experienced to have missed that and are interestingly trying to sow confusion and misdirect people's attention.

You are my top 2 candidates to switch to right now. There is not much time left in this phase to make this happen.

I am not panicked to get the vote off ABS. He is now outed and will die at some point, either now or in the near future, but I am determined to squeeze out any new info if I can and this is a great opportunity to do so.
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jkl3699 wrote:
Right now, I have 3 suspected CIA agents, one of which I will investigate in the following phase, and 2 suspected Researchers not including Abs since he's already been confirmed.
2ofclubs wrote:
Abs
As I keep saying, I am not a threat, I have a Night Protect ability which allows me to save Town members (if I choose town). I also want the opportunity to use my #clean/deface action at night on Chip and Orz to see what good it brings us. I have zero interest in using it on Mada as I know he is a confirmed Researcher. Trust me to use this ability on Chip or Orz (If I survive the lynch and even the night)

So basically, if we can work out who is confirmed Town I can opt to protect them whenever needed in night phases but I will obviosuly need protection as well

No trust warranted and you are also asking for all confirmed town to be outed to help your remaining Researching scum buddies.
This is where you don't keep your enemy closer. LOL 
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Tennesseelogman wrote:
yes abs - to continue to deny the researcher role would be a mistake at this point and be more likely to get you killed sooner. the main way to stay alive and in the game is to be a provider of info. so yes - do tell us what your win clause is or is not. and tell who you want to save.
Live long and prosper
Abs wrote:
Yes CIA win clause is Kill Researchers, this was obviously a typo from v98 that shows what the win cluase is but then didnt show it at the bottom

Now is the time to dig deep and think bigger picture as JKL, I will openly agree I am a Researcher BUT I also do have this random 2 night actions of deface/clean a grave and also protecting players with the result being if I choose a Town it protects them but if I choose a Researcher or CIA it doesnt

I can also tell you I have NO IDEA who else is a Researcher and any power it brings us but I do know that if I am lynched tomorrow, Lando (also my gut for who is a researcher) is lynched the day after that might well be 3 researchers DEAD already and who knows hwo many are left before CIA fulfil their win clause.

I am of little threat to Town folk as my only win Clause is to Eliminate CIA hence why I picked JKL as I was convinced by targeting Researchers, and finding them right each time he had to be CIA....

Now is the time for Researchers and Town to put their differences aside and focus on outing at least some CIA and I can start to protect Town people and hopefully they can protect me.