single or double trade

i come across arguing with oldtimers already a few times dont go its only single trade so it kept bugging me what u really get for it or how is it called should be considered is adouble trade or single. so here is whati talk about.

the problem becoomes when u have 4 cards and a vicitm has 4 cards and u traded first and then go a for a kill and then the old timers have claimed dont go its only a single trade. sure it is but then why would u call 3 cards and go for a 4 kill to be double trade cause basiclly each time is what u really earn is 4 cards nothing more nothing less with other words both time u go for a single trade and 1 card. To put it even more to a point is when u have 4 cards and 2 pairs and u go for a kill for 4 cards then all of a suddden u go for double trade and to say itagain all u go for it is actually 4 cards a single trade and an extra card and of coursethe most important of not getting to 5 cards and becoming a target.

basiclly we always go for a kill for 7 cards cause then we dont need to go to 4 cards and become a target but its a lie getting double trade cause all u get is 4 cards same as to repeat if u have 4 cards and tradde first and then go for a kill for 4 cards u get same outcome 4 cards benefit so when u calculate if its worth killing one its calculation on 4 cards plus if its save to go to 4cards.

same u can look this example u have 3 cards and have trade then all of a sudden u look at someone with 4 cards oh if i dont trade and kill him i get only 1 trade and 1 card so i better jsut trade myself unless of course the 4 cards are much higher bonus then the value of its cap.to point this out it brings us back we only make a kill for 7 cards so we dont end up to 4 cards becmonig a target and of course again if the value of abonus is higher than the value of a cap.

this wasnt meant to be arguing how the capitals should be played out just about what u get from bonus

arghhhh this is harder to put in a words then i thought but im lagging so badly the last hour so i figured i share some time on forum with u guys

PS: to say again might be a bit confusing the message so hard for me to put it into words lol

I think you're trying to say that it doesn't matter whether you get a double turn-in or a single turn-in - you still gain the same amount of cards.
E.g.
Option 1: Red had 4 cards. Blue has 4 cards. Red turns in 3 cards, kills Blue (gaining 4 cards), and ends with 5 cards. He can turn in again. Overall he turned-in 2 times.
Option 2: Red had 4 cards. Blue has 4 cards. Red kills Blue (gaining 4 cards), and ends with 8 cards. He can turn in again. He has 5 cards left. He can turn in another time. Overall he turned-in 2 times.

So it doesn't matter whether Red turns-in his cards before his attack or after it. That's what you're trying to say TP_knighty, right?

Of course there is a strategic difference between the two options. With option 2 you can devote both turn-ins to attacking someone else, but with option 1 you can only devote one of them (unless you have planned your attack path so that it leads directly on to your next victim).

going twice

yes i knew it be hard to understood butlet me put it on diferent words

i think its funny how and i dont talk about noobies but oldtimers how its calculated what its worth killing for

where should i start

so u have 3cards and ur victim has 4 cards and trade is 30 and all of a suden ur justified okey to kill a cap thats is worth 30 plus next trade 35 so u r justified to kill a cap that is worth 65 but what u really get out of it as i saaid is 4 cards which is 30 plus 1 card that is one third of 30 so u get out of it 40 but ur justified to kill a cap of 65 so thats 25 minus . but of course that okey cause this 25 less make u survive not going to 4 th card and getting becoming a target plus everyone always hopes on good dice to make it get out of it even better

now as i said having 4 cards and we put same example trade is 30 so what happens is we trade 30 and if we would go for a kill for 4 cards we would be only justified killing someones cap if the worth would be next trade so thats 35 plus 1card which is one third so all toghether we would be justified to kill somes cap not bigger than 45 which in other case we said was "65"

basiclly i dont think poeple realize how much loss there is for having a "double trade" with 7cards and dont gett me wrong of course its better to have 25less on ur cap and be alive than 25 more and be dead lol

okey this is explained more understandable i hope

thx virousity for reply made me think it all over how tow write to be more understandable

but as they say mind start working better when u talk about sthg and not just going over and over in ur own head

Im for triple trade

Concentrating on the number of trades is a bit misleading as the number of trades is surely just a means to the end.
The end being how many armies & cards you have left after the attack. Specifically, are you stronger and your opponents relatively weaker as a result of the attack.